x1800--->9700marks(default) at 3dmark05?

hmmm dont know but wasnt there a rumor that stated that ati mobos would let amd64 work at really low temps?? maybe they got a way to improove mem performace (i also have heard is the ondie mem controler the limiting factor thats why the went from winchester to venice (e3), maybe e6 can work 4x1t).

wait and see (its been forever...)

If anyone's interested in the official webpage for the DFI CF-DR: http://www.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_pro...D=3669&SITE=US .

Lots of good info there. Was wondering though, if Grayskull could tell us more about the old core vs new core thing for the XL vs XT...considering the Sampsa's looks to be one of those newer cores (200Mhz OC on Air).

Perkam

No mater what, I bet it can run 4 x 256MB SINGLE SIDED modules at 1T BUT not very high...... ;) ....and 4 x 512MB modules at 1T ? and at 200MHz +/- 15MHz with HIGH Vdimm/Vchip.....or something like that..... ;) :)

Why you say so Hipro?

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Originally Posted by Grayskull

Let's make this clear for everyone...THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CHIPSET. And like I said before ATI is not claiming this. DFI is. It's all board design and bios settings.

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he was being sarcastic, i think everyone saw that.

Mickeymouse -> you shouldnt get so pissed, it IS supposed to be an on-die controller limitation, mobo-independent, but hey, DFI has the best team out there... you never know...

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Originally Posted by Grayskull

Like you said Kyle, ATI is not claiming this, DFI is. *BUT* I did try it one day and almost got 4 sticks of 512 MB to pass memtest at 1T 2-2-2-5 on our reference board. I didn't try too hard because that wasn't what I was trying to do but I don't see any restriction in the A64 to prevent this from working.

I *do* know it will take special layout considerations and the right settings. If anyone will figure it out, I'd bet DFI will do it first.

Based on what I've seen with my own eyes I'd say it's entirely possible that DDR400 1T could work with 4 sticks.

But let's just wait and see before anyone starts doubting it.

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This is my last post on the subject until I have the board. To be exact Ocsar designed this board. (CF-DR) The design was very much thinking outside the box. (Just look at memory slot location....very stange indead.) Also they spared no expense in the components on the board. Many people have asked what the difference between the CF-DR and CF-BT are going to be. One big difference is the design. The CF-BT is the reference ATI board that has been tweaked. (They claim better performance) The CF-DR is a DFI/Wu original design. One big thing about the CF-DR is it is a 6 layer design Vs the CF-BT 4 layer design. I was told that this was done to optimise trace lengths to the memory. The down side was that 6 layer boards are much more expensive than 4 layer ones. With Grayskull saying it is possible it leans me more to believe that the DFI design will be able to do it if any board can.

(One final note the reason the CF-BT is not ready has to do with part sourcing. The reference board was made in Canada...some parts are not available/cost effective overseas so they are having to tweak the design for the parts they can get there.)

All will be known this week......

Now how about the X1800 XT OC......

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One big thing about the CF-DR is it is a 6 layer design Vs the CF-BT 4 layer design. I was told that this was done to optimise trace lengths to the memory. The down side was that 6 layer boards are much more expensive than 4 layer ones. With Grayskull saying it is possible it leans me more to believe that the DFI design will be able to do it if any board can.

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nice i hope that the 6 layer design for the Expert board will give better RAM results and compatibility

I thought the cf-bt (big toe) one was gona have the optimized memory path to help clock the memory better?

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Originally Posted by GoriLLakoS

He said too that the scores to 3D is very very big

Gatch you Hipro this time.....:p
I've got a Dothan...

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LOL!!!

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Originally Posted by wfarid

its always soo funny to see people saying OMG ATI is the SUXXOR, they are going to go down the tubes and then a couple of weeks later say OMG ATI IS THE ROXXOR...

But those cards are big, they remind me of my Vodoo 5500 pci back in the day...

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i too noticed... the new ATi is awefully big.. :stick: looks even longer than the voodoo5500. Can't they make it smaller??? THis is a high tech world.. c'mon..

I am still disappointed with Ati. my x800xt clocks 10mhz above default core clk... and this isn't the first... the second and third x800xt/pe card with different manufacturer did 5~ 10mhz core oc. Are the new upcomming card going to oc 5mhz core as well?? hehehehehe... I wouldn't be surprised if it will.

:rolleyes:

Jason,

a run at 270 w/ ATI board, sorry its old run and only 2x256 but that's all I've got. But you wanted to see it =)

As far as the new R520 runs go there will be some once I find a moment to do some testing.

Cold bug issue: in some cases (winnys) its a CPU thing and in some cases it can be fixed w/ mobo settings (FX55, FX57s I've tried).

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Originally Posted by MickeyMouse

tHANKS mACCI :)
tHAT WORKS FINE :)
nOW TO FIND ME SOME OF THESE ati TOYS :)

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His Keyboard is not dead. His caps lock was on.... :lol2:

I have done that before.

My card is as crap ass hell. My max = 590-750. @ 1.2 volt.

If i go higher on volts > lockup. And the clocks arnt'y good eighter. 590 core ain't good.

I hope a new bios will help me to get past that 1.2 volt.

at 590/750 is it at least 100% artifact free and stable from crashes or hard locks?