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06-06-2005, 03:14 PM
Jupiler

Calm down guys, no need to start discussing this here.
Use a PM, or MSN, AIM, whatever if you wanna argue about it.
But not in this topic, so let's keep it clean and not to ruin it for the others.

After all, finding a good clocking chip is still a crapshoot, isn't it?
06-06-2005, 03:17 PM
NiCKE^

I don't doubt it at all. http://home.no/nickeh/cpu3.jpg this was the dream stepping in Sweden and those who were first to order from the Swedish webshops got this stepping. And look, 0019 as batch number ;)

*EDIT* AS Jupiler says, it's most luck when you get a good cpu but what I think everyone can confirm is that if you get one of the first cpus ever made of a model the chances of getting a high clockers is much higher, right? *EDIT*
06-06-2005, 03:17 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jupiler

Calm down guys, no need to start discussing this here.
Use a PM, or MSN, AIM, whatever if you wanna argue about it.
But not in this topic, so let's keep it clean and not to ruin it for the others.

After all, finding a good clocking chip is still a crapshoot, isn't it?

It always is, but sometimes you gotta know how to play to help your chances of winning ;)
06-06-2005, 03:19 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiCKE^

I don't doubt it at all. http://home.no/nickeh/cpu3.jpg this was the dream stepping in Sweden and those who were first to order from the Swedish webshops got this stepping. And look, 0019 as batch number ;)

*EDIT* AS Jupiler says, it's most luck when you get a good cpu but what I think everyone can confirm is that if you get one of the first cpus ever made of a model the chances of getting a high clockers is much higher, right? *EDIT*

Geez Nick, you think you could make the picture a little bigger? I can't quite make out the numbers :rolleyes: :p:
06-06-2005, 03:26 PM
NiCKE^

Hehehe, you can't complain that it isn't readable :)
06-06-2005, 03:36 PM
ReelMonza

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

If you read what I wrote I NEVER said every lower batch number is better than every higher number. All I said was that chances are that the lower numbers will be better since they're closer to the center of the wafer and I did explain my theory on why lower numbered ones may not be as good as some higher numbered ones in a few posts back.....

OK, but what if those numbers have nothing to do with position of the wafer ? that's why I say it's plain speculation. If you can just point me some reliable info on it that'd be nice. unsubstantiated rumors can lead to this kind of talk, for me you are spreading rumors but have shown no facts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

I'll tell you right off the bat that the x2 4600+ I sent OPB with a batch #0029 is definately better than the current #0053 x2 4600+ that I'm testing now. It's got a stronger memory controller and is more stable with less vcore.....I'll have pics up of my current cpu later.... Just a note: this comparison shouldn't mean too much since the cpu's ARE so close in number.......

were those two "from the same wafer" ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

It always is, but sometimes you gotta know how to play to help your chances of winning

:rolleyes:
06-06-2005, 03:41 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReelMonza

OK, but what if those numbers have nothing to do with position of the wafer ? that's why I say it's plain speculation. If you can just point me some reliable info on it that'd be nice. unsubstantiated rumors can lead to this kind of talk, for me you are spreading rumors but have shown no facts.

were those two "from the same wafer" ?

:rolleyes:

How many batches do you suppose there's been for the 4600+? :rolleyes:
06-06-2005, 03:43 PM
ReelMonza

you tell me, post some pics.
06-06-2005, 03:51 PM
furyfax

3200+ LBBLE 0518 APAW @ 2800MHz Watercooling
06-06-2005, 03:54 PM
NiCKE^

Which vcore furyfax?
06-06-2005, 04:37 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReelMonza

you tell me, post some pics.

They're the same stepping. I'll post pics of the new one when I have time. You'll find pics of the current one if you do a search.
This is really starting to get out of hand......Let's finish this up once and for all. You make the claim that that it doesn't matter what the batch code on the cpu is in terms of how well it overclocks and I say that the lower numbered batch codes tend to do better than the higher ones. Now for anybody to take your claim serious, why don't you just post a few links that state exactly what you claim and then maybe it can be considered......until then, it is you my friend that is speculating.......

Here are just a few that state exactly what I claim:
http://www.lowyat.net/guides/athlonxp/
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...322034857.html
http://www.aoaforums.com/forum/showt...t=16134&page=4
http://ocprices.com/forums/showthrea...oto=nextnewest
http://www.idhw.com/textual/guide/no...d_k7label.html

This link is for you......read the middle of the page or so. It talks about DL3TC batch code #'s.
06-06-2005, 04:49 PM
ReelMonza

Quote:

They're the same stepping. I'll post pics of the new one when I have time.

Why don't you just do it now ?

I guess you had plenty of time to put all that together.

Those were the same exactly links I found too, btw I read those a long time ago.

EDIT: This theory first appeared on the web back in 2003 at the Lowyat forums and all those links are nothing but news/guides on the same Lowyat article.

There is nothing you can tell me buddy, this is just speculation and always will be.
06-06-2005, 05:29 PM
s7e9h3n

Nice links :rolleyes: ...end of discussion.
06-06-2005, 05:35 PM
ReelMonza

... and X2 cut from the "same wafer" pics... and yet you can't tell those numbers mean what they're supposed to mean...
06-07-2005, 01:29 AM
Dani

Can someone write an mail to S&M programmer to say him that S&M endless loop would be great :banana:

BTW, 3005MHz @ 1.5V on BPEW now S&M finished and StressPrime2004 is on now
06-07-2005, 03:43 AM
overcrash86

http://wowgame.free.fr/3000+%20939/L...1.552v7H13.jpg

:banana:
06-07-2005, 04:03 AM
lehmin

lucky you :mad: cooling with icewater? i want also 2.9g primestable. vut u cant get 3ghx primestable ?
06-07-2005, 04:06 AM
overcrash86

Quote:

Originally Posted by lehmin

lucky you :mad: cooling with icewater? i want also 2.9g primestable. vut u cant get 3ghx primestable ?

no ice, just water outdoor, but in night :D

i think 3Ghz possible with ice, and 3.2-3.3 with chiller...
06-07-2005, 04:57 AM
furyfax

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiCKE^

Which vcore furyfax?

1.65
06-07-2005, 05:22 AM
Mastakilla

i might be able to choose a venice core...

can any of u perhaps give me a resume of what to look/ask for?

after studying the list on the first page, these are the ones that come above:
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW
3000+ CBBLE 0512DPAW
3000+ LBBLE 0517EPAW
3200+ LBBLE 0517BPEW
3000+ CBBLE 0512DPBW
3200+ LBBLE 0515GPBW

anyone who knows more then this? plz lemme know...

anything else i should look for?
06-07-2005, 07:03 AM
Cornelious0_0

I'd sure like to be sitting with an 0517EPAW right now, but I guess my 0516EPKW will have to do. :rolleyes:
06-07-2005, 07:57 AM
NiCKE^

3000+ LBBLE 0517EPAW is the easy choice ;) Seach for LBBLE 0517EPAW and see what results you're getting.
06-07-2005, 08:13 AM
s7e9h3n

Personally, I like the 3200+'s 10x multiplier:
mem:fsb 1:1 ON AIR LBBLE 3200+ 0515APAW
http://img31.echo.cx/img31/5254/10x295spi1m6tf.jpg
06-07-2005, 08:16 AM
NiCKE^

Damn man my won't even do close to that :(
06-07-2005, 08:22 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiCKE^

Damn man my won't even do close to that :(

No worries Nicke, not many will ;)Btw, I'm sure it'll make you feel even better when I tell you that it was with a stock fx heatsink :p:

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