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02-07-2011, 04:47 PM
xEnergie

Hi guys,

I'm currently thinking about picking up 2*2gb of the gskill ripjawx 17600 ram and was wondering will this board be able to run those speeds?

These sticks to be specific:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820231454
02-07-2011, 09:39 PM
Q56_Monster

Anyone figure out how to make a bclk change stick? I was able to change bclk with 1053, then flashed to 1204 and couldn't get any changes to take hold once in windows. A steady 100 bclk.

So I flashed back to 1053, now same thing???? No Bclk adjustment will work.

Oh, and Splave, I had the same power cut off in superpi, but it went away after I flashed to 1204 and flashed back to 1053.....go figure?!?!? My blinking cursor went away at 54x too.

But I wish I could get my bclk adjustment back.:confused:
02-07-2011, 10:14 PM
coolhandluke41

here it is ,just fill up Service Registration Form and get in line
http://service.asus.com/notice/
02-07-2011, 10:52 PM
some_one

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowfat

Is there any sort of way I can flash back to an older BIOS? I updated to the 1204 and can no longer boot from my drive.

Sorry for the late reply.

1. Remove the BIOS chip and re-flash externally with the original BIOS backup you made earlier.

or

2. Modify one of the older BIOS firmware with the newer EzFlash then use BUPDATER v1.22 to flash that. From there use EzFlash to flash any of the older up to current BIOS.

or

3. Kick back and wait (indefinitely?) for Asus to provide a fix to flash older HW versions.

or

4. Give up and wait for 13xx which will be so awesome (we hope) you'll forget all about those older versions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkstormz

Using T-Monitor i discovered that my cores will go from x45 -> x16 for about 1/10 of a second, then back to x45. It happends about every 7-8 seconds running LinX... any solution?

Bug fix? You could try giving some feedback to the author about it although I would be surprised if he wasn't already aware of it.
02-08-2011, 12:46 AM
|ron

Quote:

Originally Posted by Q56_Monster

Anyone figure out how to make a bclk change stick? I was able to change bclk with 1053, then flashed to 1204 and couldn't get any changes to take hold once in windows. A steady 100 bclk.

So I flashed back to 1053, now same thing???? No Bclk adjustment will work.

Oh, and Splave, I had the same power cut off in superpi, but it went away after I flashed to 1204 and flashed back to 1053.....go figure?!?!? My blinking cursor went away at 54x too.

But I wish I could get my bclk adjustment back.:confused:

For the power cut off, have you tried to disable the "anti surge something"?
You'll find it in the "Monitor" section, the last parameter at the bottom. :)
02-08-2011, 02:25 AM
Kimi.Rk

asus is too slow in releasing new bios! too long and not good. :down:
02-08-2011, 02:44 AM
jcniest5

Quote:

Originally Posted by xEnergie

Hi guys,

I'm currently thinking about picking up 2*2gb of the gskill ripjawx 17600 ram and was wondering will this board be able to run those speeds?

These sticks to be specific:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820231454

So far I'm not able to make my memory run any speed faster than 1600. Anything past that results in freeze before Windows completes booting. Just stucks at the four-flying color.
02-08-2011, 03:16 AM
Leeghoofd

Which CPU speeds JcNiest ?
02-08-2011, 05:55 AM
Darkstormz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gr1mR34p3r

LLC Regular P95 Blend stable:
46x100 +0.030V (1.288-1.304V)
48x100 +0.090V (1.344-1.360V)

LLC High P95 Blend stable:
46x100 -0.040 (1.288-1.304V)
48x100 +0.010 (1.344-1.368V)

LLC Regular vs. High
46x100 LLC Regular +0.030V / 0.976-1.136V idle / 1.288-1.304V load / min 8.924W in idle (voltage from CPU-Z, W from HWiNFO32)
46x100 LLC High -0.040V / 0.920-1.064V idle / 1.288-1.304V load / min 9.013W in idle

Manual vs. offset voltage
46x100 LLC Ultra High 1.290V / 1.280-1.296V idle / 1.264-1.280V load / min 9.343W in idle - 65-71°C after 10min P95 Blend
46x100 LLC High -0.040V / 0.920-1.064V idle / 1.288-1.304V load / min 9.013W in idle - 68-75°C after 10min P95 Blend

Conclusion, Load = better on manual (less voltage needed, lower temp.), Idle = better on offset, higher the LLC, the better
I'll stick to offset because it runs 90-95% of the day in idle/light load.

Thanks for the info, I´ve been testing the offset mode and its really good!
02-08-2011, 04:50 PM
Splave

Quote:

Originally Posted by Q56_Monster

Anyone figure out how to make a bclk change stick? I was able to change bclk with 1053, then flashed to 1204 and couldn't get any changes to take hold once in windows. A steady 100 bclk.

So I flashed back to 1053, now same thing???? No Bclk adjustment will work.

Oh, and Splave, I had the same power cut off in superpi, but it went away after I flashed to 1204 and flashed back to 1053.....go figure?!?!? My blinking cursor went away at 54x too.

But I wish I could get my bclk adjustment back.:confused:

figured it out :clap: switch phase control to manual and ultra fast ;) settings that wouldnt run 1m now run 32m :)
02-08-2011, 08:11 PM
Skratch

does anyone one how to get 4 sticks to run 2133? is it a bios bug or something.
02-08-2011, 10:28 PM
chestnut

Hey, I can't find much info on the Digi+VRM settings for this board and what are regarded as 'safe' 24/7 settings.

Does anyone know? What are you guys using?

I understand the recommended/safe 24/7 settings for voltages, just not these.
02-08-2011, 10:41 PM
coolhandluke41

Quote:

Originally Posted by chestnut

Hey, I can't find much info on the Digi+VRM settings for this board and what are regarded as 'safe' 24/7 settings.

Does anyone know? What are you guys using?

I understand the recommended/safe 24/7 settings for voltages, just not these.

what frequency are you shooting for and what's the stable Vcore for it ?
02-09-2011, 02:40 AM
bokoy

Hi guys, don't know if you can help me.
I finally updated my rig with a 2600k+p8p67 dlx+2x4gb gskill ripjaws 16000. I love it, just run fast and fine.
My big question is the memory, it's exactly this one http://www.gskill.co...s.php?index=323 , the spd is a bit crazy so I looked for reviews and found those settings

DDR3 1333MHz CL7-7-7-20 1,5v 1T (works ok)
DDR3 1600MHz CL8-8-8-24 1,5v 1T (works ok)
DDR3 2000MHz CL9-10-9-28 1,55v 1T (not possible on p67)
I have also tryed DDR3 1866MHz CL9-10-9-28 1,5v 1T (works ok)

Do you think I will be able to tight up timmings on the lower speeds (1600/1866)?
And I guess that I should be able to make them run at 2133, if they are supose to run natively at 1000 why not at 1066? It's just a ridiculous oc, but I'm not experienced ocing ram, I had a 775 before and my crucial ballistix 800mhz runs at 1000mhz without efford on spd settings as well as my Adata did.
What do you suggest me to do? What are the steps for ram testing and ocing?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards
02-09-2011, 07:00 AM
Gr1mR34p3r

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sevenz

to test the "light" load stability,test linx 20 pass on 1 thread.
in my tests i could do 25 pass linx avx on 4/8 threads but was failing linx 1 thread on the second pass so i had to up offset to pass linx 25 runs on 1 thread.
You can do it with prime too.

This is a great find. It really works.

My example:
48x100 LLC High, everything else on default
+0.005V (1.336-1.360) - P95 Blend 2h+ stable, got BSOD in game
+0.010V (1.344-1.368) - BSOD in game

Now with LinX 1 thread, ram All:
+0.005V - BSOD at 2min
+0.010V (1.248-1.288V with 1 thread) - BSOD at 2min
+0.015V (1.248-1.288V) - 1 run ok, BSOD when running 3 runs
+0.020V (1.256-1.288V 1 thread / 1.352-1.376 4 threads) - 3 runs OK

For load stability, Prime95 is definitely better than IBT/LinX on Sandy Bridge, required 0.045V more voltage at 4.6 and at 4.8GHz.
For light load, LinX proved to be quicker, error at 30min, Prime95 Blend BSOD after 3 hours.

So to call it 24h stable we must now run:
-Prime95 Small FFTs for at least 8 hours to test load stability
-LinX 1 thread 20 runs to test light load stability
But considering LinX 1 thread requires the most voltage, this alone should be enough, at least for LLC High, will see how Regular works.

EDIT:
New Linpack is even better, BSOD's immediately where it was stable before:
http://software.intel.com/en-us/arti...pack-download/
02-09-2011, 08:40 AM
Splave

anyone succesfully using 2133 at 7-8-7 7-9-7 or even 8-8-8? boots windows but wont 32m at all
02-09-2011, 08:53 AM
|ron

I can't even get it to post if I set 2133 frequency on the ram :(
02-09-2011, 09:26 AM
Gr1mR34p3r

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splave

anyone succesfully using 2133 at 7-8-7 7-9-7 or even 8-8-8? boots windows but wont 32m at all

2133MHz 9-11-9-27 1.50V = OK
2133MHz 8-10-8-24 1.60V = doesn't boot
02-09-2011, 09:29 AM
Splave

it runs 32m? thanks :D
02-09-2011, 11:11 AM
Skratch

I had 2160+ @ 7-10-7-27 1t 1.65 gskill cl7 2133 kit but I ordered another kit and cant get near that with 4 sticks installed,Im waiting for a bios update or Ill have a set of ram for sale soon.
02-09-2011, 11:21 AM
coolhandluke41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splave

it runs 32m? thanks :D

X47 (1053)
@2133 9-10-9-28-1T (v1.625)
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6184/213332m.th.jpg

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02-09-2011, 04:42 PM
my87csx481

Quote:

Originally Posted by some_one

Sorry for the late reply.

1. Remove the BIOS chip and re-flash externally with the original BIOS backup you made earlier.

or

2. Modify one of the older BIOS firmware with the newer EzFlash then use BUPDATER v1.22 to flash that. From there use EzFlash to flash any of the older up to current BIOS.

or

3. Kick back and wait (indefinitely?) for Asus to provide a fix to flash older HW versions.

or

4. Give up and wait for 13xx which will be so awesome (we hope) you'll forget all about those older versions.

Bug fix? You could try giving some feedback to the author about it although I would be surprised if he wasn't already aware of it.

2. Care to explain how to do this, with more details?
02-10-2011, 02:59 AM
chestnut

Does knowing my goals for clocking really matter?

Doesn't the same apply to the Digi+VRM options, like that of the vcore safe/conservative settings? ie v1.35-1.45 for 24/7 use.

Or is it okay to max things out to extreme as discussed here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=265398
02-10-2011, 03:20 AM
some_one

Quote:

Originally Posted by my87csx481

2. Care to explain how to do this, with more details?

Sure, re-reading 2. I can see how it would be confusing. Appeared to make sense at the time. :D

Well it seems currently there is a loophole with BUPDATER 1.22 in that if you replace the older GUID 77840A38-8AB1-4D7A-9181-3B2F5B34C0B module in the older flash firmware with the newer GUID 77840A38-8AB1-4D7A-9181-3B2F5B34C0B module found in the newer flash firmware then BUPDATER is happy to flash the older modified firmware believing it is the newer hardware version. Once that is done it seems EzFlash can be used to update from 0303 to 1253 or say you flashed a modified 1053 BIOS then it could be replaced by the original 1053. Luckily the module sizes are the same (at least for P8P67 EVO), about 2 blocks worth, so it makes the job fairly easy.

I wouldn't say it's recommended but since I also have an external flasher I can recover any fubars. Unfortunately though the external flasher runs of a parallel port and it takes ~2hours to flash the 32Mb Asus BIOS. :shakes: IMHO it would be best if Asus provided/documented a force flash function so all of this wouldn't be necessary.

I find it strange Asus didn't update the hardware version for the Deluxe BIOS versions so rolling back for them is np. Maybe one of the Asus reps would be kind enough to explain why it's like that. :shrug:

EDIT: Looks like the new B3 stepping boards will be available shortly.

As a precaution please do not try to downgrade from the B3 (Rev 3.0) boards using a B2 stepping BIOS (pre 1305) until (in)compatibility can be ascertained.

You've been warned. :yepp:
02-10-2011, 03:54 AM
Sauron_Vie

Hi Guys,

got my Asus p67 pro today. What´s the best bios currently so far ?

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