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05-03-2008, 03:28 AM
NEC

Quote:

Originally Posted by SocketMan

Too many........;) I would replace the NB heatsink, right away; and be careful with "after market" coolers- some of them (like Enzotech XtreamX) will cover the 1st DIMM what else? Some people had issue with the "onboard" NIC-sudden reboots or BSD's- think the newer drivers solved it. This thread should have "some info'" as well.
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Yea that 'shut down" is not long enough, the drives are still spinning when it powers back on, it might be related to the fact that Phenom checks (I think)
during post whether on not it was a "cold reset" and goes into a slightly different "boot routine" for "warm" and "cold' resets.

Thanks, nothing wrong with the choice of an X2 5200 then?

Probably with a Zalman 9500A
05-12-2008, 08:54 AM
thigobr

What program you use for change base frequency inside Windows?? AMD Overdrive didn't work for me....
05-16-2008, 04:24 PM
zhadoom

Hi. I`m just update my system from a X2 6000+ to a Phenom 9750.

The M3A is using 0805 firmware.

Question: The bios updation is enabled by default and the report list shows that the Phenom have been "updated" in some way. is this a residual solution of the Phenoms B2 bug ? is this affect the performance ? The AOD shows a "red ring".

My system:

Asus M3A with Phenom 9750, 4GB ram DDR2-800 Markvision, Zalman 9700 led, WD 500GB SATA II, PS AKASA 500W.
05-17-2008, 08:28 AM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhadoom

Hi. I`m just update my system from a X2 6000+ to a Phenom 9750.

The M3A is using 0805 firmware.

Question: The bios updation is enabled by default and the report list shows that the Phenom have been "updated" in some way. is this a residual solution of the Phenoms B2 bug ? is this affect the performance ? The AOD shows a "red ring".

My system:

Asus M3A with Phenom 9750, 4GB ram DDR2-800 Markvision, Zalman 9700 led, WD 500GB SATA II, PS AKASA 500W.

Hi there.To answer your question,no your Phenom is not affected by B2 problem and is working as it should!Red ring in AOD is what it should show.It would be bad if it showed green ring!
Good news ,also,is that Asus finally validated this motherboard model for ALL new B3 Phenoms ,even the 125 W models!6400+ is also back on the support is and now shows supported status!

The BIOS must be 805 since the microcode update for the latest B3 devices.
Good job(finally),ASUS!:up:

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CPU

Since PCB

Since BIOS

Note
Athlon 64 3000+ (CN),512K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 3200+ (CN),512K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 3200+ (DE),512K,rev.G,45W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 3500+ (CN),512K,rev.F2,35W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 3500+ (CN),512K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 3500+ (CW),512K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 3500+ (DE),512K,rev.G,45W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 3500+ (DH),512K,rev.F3,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 3800+ (CN),512K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 3800+ (CW),512K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 3800+ (DE),512K,rev.G,45W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 3800+ (DH),512K,rev.F3,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 4000+ (CW),512K,rev.F2,59W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 4000+ (DH),512K,rev.F3,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 LE-1600+ (DH),1M,rev.F3,45W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 LE-1620+ (DH),1M,rev.F3,45W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 LE-1640+ (DH),1M,rev.F3,45W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 LE-1640+ (DP),1M,rev.G2,45W,SocketAM2 ALL
0702

Athlon 64 X2 3600+ (CU),512K,65W,rev.F2,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 3600+ (DD),1MB,65W,rev.G,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (CS),512Kx2,65W,rev.F2,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (CU),512Kx2,35W,rev.F2,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (CU),512Kx2,65W,rev.F2,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (CU),512Kx2,rev.F2,89W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (CZ),512Kx2,65W,rev.F3,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4000+ (CS),1MBx2,rev.F2,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4000+ (CS),1MBx2,rev.F2,89W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4000+ (DD),1MB,rev.G,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (CU),512Kx2,rev.F2,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (CU),512Kx2,rev.F2,89W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (DD),512Kx2,rev.G1,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (CS),1MBx2,65W,rev.F2,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (CS),1MBx2,rev.F2,89W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (DD),1MB,rev.G,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (DO),1MB,rev.G2,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (CU),512Kx2,rev.F2,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (CU),512Kx2,rev.F2,89W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (CZ),1MB,rev.F3,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (DO),1M,rev.G2,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0805

Athlon 64 X2 4800+ (CS),1MBx2,rev.F2,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4800+ (CS),1MBx2,rev.F2,89W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4800+ (DD),1MB,rev.G,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 4800+ (DO),1MB,rev.G2,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (CS),1MB,rev.F2,89W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (CU),512Kx2,rev.F2,89W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (CZ),1MB,rev.F3,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (CZ),1MB,rev.F3,89W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (DD),1MB,rev.G,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (DO),1MB,rev.G2,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (DS),1MB,rev.G2,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 5200+ (CS),1MBx2,rev.F2,89W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 5200+ (CZ),2MB,rev.F3,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 5200+ (CZ),2MB,rev.F3,89W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 5200+ (DD),1MB,rev.G,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 5200+ (DO),1MB,rev.G2,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 5400+ (CZ),1M,rev.F3,89W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 5400+ (DO),1M,rev.G2,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0702

Athlon 64 X2 5600+ (CZ),2MB,rev.F3,89W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 6000+ (CZ),2MB,rev.F3,89W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon 64 X2 6400+ (CZ),2MB,rev.F3,125W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon X2 4850e (DO),1M,rev.G2,45W,SocketAM2 ALL
0805

Athlon X2 BE-2300 (DD),1M,45W,rev.G1,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon X2 BE-2300 (DO),1M,45W,rev.G2,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon X2 BE-2350 (DD),1M,45W,rev.G1,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon X2 BE-2350 (DO),1M,45W,rev.G2,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Athlon X2 BE-2400 (DO),1M,45W,rev.G2,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Phenom X3 8400 (HD8400WCJ3BGD),2.1GHz,rev.B2,95W,SocketAM2+,Tripl e-Core ALL
0805

Phenom X3 8450 (HD8450WCJ3BGH),2.1GHz,rev.B3,95W,SocketAM2+,Tripl e-Core ALL
0805

Phenom X3 8600(HD8600WCJ3BGD),2.3GHz,95W,rev.B2,SocketAM2+,T riple-Core ALL
0805

Phenom X3 8650 (HD8650WCJ3BGH),2.3GHz,95W,rev.B3,SocketAM2+,Tripl e-Core ALL
0805

Phenom X3 8750 (HD8750WCJ3BGH),2.4GHz,rev.B3,95W,SocketAM2+,Tripl e-Core ALL
0805

Phenom X4 9100e (HD910OBJ4BGD),1.8GHz,65W,rev.B2,SocketAM2+,Quad-Core ALL
0805

Phenom X4 9500 (HD9500WCJ4BGD),2.2GHz,rev.B2,95W,SocketAM2+,Quad-Core ALL
0301

Phenom X4 9550 (HD9550WCJ4BGH),2.2GHz,rev.B3,95W,SocketAM2+,Quad-Core ALL
0805

Phenom X4 9600 (HD9600WCJ4BGD),2.3GHz,95W,rev.B2,SocketAM2+,Quad-Core ALL
0301

Phenom X4 9650 (HD9650WCJ4BGH),2.3GHz,95W,rev.B3,SocketAM2+,Quad-Core ALL
0805

Phenom X4 9750 (HD9750XAJ4BGH),2.4GHz,125W,rev.B3,SocketAM2+,Quad-Core ALL
0805

Phenom X4 9850 (HD985ZXAJ4BGH),2.5GHz,125W,rev.B3,SocketAM2+,Quad-Core ALL
0805

Sempron 2100+ (DD),512K,rev.G1,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0805

Sempron 2100+ (DO),512K,rev.G2,65W,SocketAM2 ALL
0805

Sempron 2800+ (CN),128K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Sempron 3000+ (CN),256K,rev.F2,35W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Sempron 3000+ (CN),256K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Sempron 3200+ (CN),128K,rev.F2,35W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Sempron 3200+ (CN),128K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Sempron 3200+ (CW),256K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Sempron 3400+ (CN),256K,rev.F2,35W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Sempron 3400+ (CN),256K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Sempron 3400+ (CW),256K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Sempron 3500+ (CN),128K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Sempron 3600+ (CN),256K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Sempron 3600+ (CW),256K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Sempron 3800+ (CN),256K,rev.F2,62W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Sempron LE-1100 (DE),256K,rev.G1,45W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301

Sempron LE-1150 (DE),256K,rev.G1,45W,SocketAM2 ALL
0301
05-17-2008, 11:30 AM
Jakalwarrior

Anyone had any issues with the raid? after 2 days of usage my raid controller kept shutting one of my drives down and then being unable to detect it on reboot. I thought the drive was dying but it appears to work fine in non raid mode.
05-17-2008, 08:34 PM
zhadoom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakalwarrior

Anyone had any issues with the raid? after 2 days of usage my raid controller kept shutting one of my drives down and then being unable to detect it on reboot. I thought the drive was dying but it appears to work fine in non raid mode.

Looking your signature the most probable cause is overclocking of the bus affecting the sata controller.
05-18-2008, 11:50 AM
Jakalwarrior

That bus is supposed to be locked :( and my HT Link is turned down pretty low.
05-18-2008, 12:18 PM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakalwarrior

That bus is supposed to be locked :( and my HT Link is turned down pretty low.

Did you turn off all of the spread spectrum options in BIOS?
05-19-2008, 07:41 AM
Jakalwarrior

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

Did you turn off all of the spread spectrum options in BIOS?

*edit, nope no spread spectrum.
Perhaps its the 305 HT ?
05-22-2008, 05:21 PM
NEC

Hi guys, stupid question probably but: I have one Zalman NB47J for the M3A and I was wondering "do I put this on the northbridge and forget about it?" what about the little heatsink at the southbridge?

The northbridge heatsink is very hot everytime I check.
05-23-2008, 04:23 AM
SocketMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEC

Hi guys, stupid question probably but: I have one Zalman NB47J for the M3A and I was wondering "do I put this on the northbridge and forget about it?" what about the little heatsink at the southbridge?

The northbridge heatsink is very hot everytime I check.

The SB should be fine with the stock heat sink,
but if you want to change it -- it's your call;)
05-29-2008, 03:16 AM
Shomac

Hi people.
I have a little problem with this MO. Problem is that VCore is back to default after some time. I set BIOS to default, disable CnQ and just set higher voltage than default but the problem is staying. I try with newer BIOS but no success.
Can anybody help me?

PS Sorry for my bad eng.
05-29-2008, 12:57 PM
NEC

Anyone tried Mother Board Monitor 5 with this board? seems not supported yet.

Installed speedfan but reports wrong temps.

What hardware monitor are you using? I'd like to have temps, voltages and rpms all in the same window again. =/
05-29-2008, 01:19 PM
zhadoom

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEC

Anyone tried Mother Board Monitor 5 with this board? seems not supported yet.

Installed speedfan but reports wrong temps.

What hardware monitor are you using? I'd like to have temps, voltages and rpms all in the same window again. =/

Use Asus PCProbe II. The core temps are wrong in all hardware monitors and in the bios. The original 0301 bios shows correct core temps.
Looks like the cpu temp was replaced by the chipset temp. This AMD 770 burns.

You can use coretemp or AOD to monitor the core temperature.
05-29-2008, 02:29 PM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhadoom

Use Asus PCProbe II. The core temps are wrong in all hardware monitors and in the bios. The original 0301 bios shows correct core temps.
Looks like the cpu temp was replaced by the chipset temp. This AMD 770 burns.

You can use coretemp or AOD to monitor the core temperature.

Hi there :).Can you tell me what OC did you achieve on your M3A(if you OCed your 9750)?Was the mobo well reacting to the HTT increase?What's with the RAM speeds at OC and stock settings?
Thanks in advance :).
05-30-2008, 04:00 AM
zhadoom

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

Hi there :).Can you tell me what OC did you achieve on your M3A(if you OCed your 9750)?Was the mobo well reacting to the HTT increase?What's with the RAM speeds at OC and stock settings?
Thanks in advance :).

Hi. I just assemble this Phenom machine recently. At stock speed ( CPU + RAM ) the computer is stable at idle and at full load ( multithreaded x264 video convert ).

Temps range from 28-29ºC idle to 47-48ºC full load with a 24ºC room temperature. The AMD 770 chipset really burns.

The RAM modules are a low cost Markvision PC-6400 ( 5-5-5-18-24 ) running at 1.8v . Don't work at 1066 even with Vdimm at 2.2v ( I'm not try this again because of recent Phenom death with vdimm increase )

Overclock: not tested ( yet ... )
05-30-2008, 04:21 AM
informal

Thank you very much for the response :).I own M3A too and i'm well pleased with it(for now).I do run it with X2 so i wanted to know how it runs with Phenom X4 :).Good to see it works fine.
Keep us updated on the OC testing :up:
05-30-2008, 01:51 PM
I_J_A

I'm running a M3A with 805 BIOS. I have the following hardware:

Phenom 9750 (95W TDP version)
2 x 2Gb Geil Ultra 6400 (4-4-4-12)
2 x 2Gb Patriot 6400 (4-4-4-12)
Xilence 520W dual rail PSU
Scythe Mugen Heatsink
NZXT HS-001 case (2x Internal 120mm fans)

The following overclocks are possible:

CPU NB Volts RAM Temps (idle/load)
3.0Ghz 2250 1.3 416 37/64
2.88Ghz 2160 1.3 400 33/60
2.75Ghz 2160 1.3 400 33/60

Stability is fine at all levels in general windows usage. At 3Ghz, Prime, Memtest and SETI give errors and BSOD (A value was not received by a Secondary processor....); 2.88Ghz prime and Memtest give errors; 2.75Ghz all stable.

So overall the overclock I'm sticking with is the 2.75Ghz with a healthy NB and RAM speed (I can run stable with best timings). This also keeps the temps down (my case doesn't have the best airflow).

Hope this info is useful to others!

*Edit: after a few days now I retried 2.88 and 3Ghz and passed 12 hours of SETI/AOD stability testing without fault. Instability seems to have gone. Now running with 3Ghz @ 1.3*
06-02-2008, 08:34 AM
informal

Thanks on the input I_J_A!!

New BIOS for M3A is out,version 0901!
Grab it from here:
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM2/M3A/
Didn't try it yet,but i suppose there are some improvements.
06-02-2008, 08:50 AM
NEC

Maybe they fixed the temperature reporting problem in this new BIOS.

And about temperatures... the northbridge heatsink is always very hot (sometimes up to 47C) in my board, I have a Zalman NB47J:
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2927/zmnb472td5.jpg
so I tried to install it and get some degrees lower... problem is can't get the hook/grip out of the current stock heatsink, and without it there's no way to attach it to the board, no screws... nothing.

Someone succesfully replaced that heatsink?
06-02-2008, 09:04 AM
NEC

This I can't get out:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5074/m3ajs5.jpg
06-02-2008, 01:53 PM
dball3

it should just push down, and then try to push it towards the heatsink, if not try a little wire cutter. Are there holes for the new heatsink, i'm to lazy to open my case at the moment.
06-02-2008, 03:18 PM
NEC

I'll try again in a few days.

Holes no, there's nothing to use screws with near the northbridge.
06-06-2008, 07:55 PM
thigobr

I flashed my board with 0901 bios. The first thing I saw is that some BIOS options that have RESERVED values are gone, good thing. The motherboard still turning off after bios changes...

Memory performance is about the same.
06-08-2008, 03:20 PM
NEC

You mean that 1 second turn off while booting? it's not necessarily a bad thing... is it?

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