i've flashed to the latest 913 BIOS (thx to Andre :toast: )
and BIOS more compicated but it's fun..so much thing to tweak :D
i'll post some result soon
i've flashed to the latest 913 BIOS (thx to Andre :toast: )
and BIOS more compicated but it's fun..so much thing to tweak :D
i'll post some result soon
NO! If you want to cool everything independently you're either going to have to cut it free from the rest of the Heat Pipe Assembly or go after market cooling around the board.
I believe that Thermalright has a PWM solution for the D.F.I P35
Thanks Andre for the bios - works like a charm.
How the transpiper or the copper bridge improve the temps?
DFI LP UT P35-T2R + Transpiper with SanAce 60mm + copper plate with 2 copper sinks on it.
idle
cpu 40C/39C PWM 36C chipset 37C
load
cpu 66C/66C PWM 42C chipset 41C
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/8700/idleql3.th.jpghttp://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1465/runcm6.th.jpg
DFI LP UT P35-T2R + Transpiper with SanAce 60mm + copper plate without sinks
idle
cpu 39C/39C PWM 36C chipset 38C
load
cpu 67C/67C PWM 43C chipset 41C
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/393/idlexe0.th.jpghttp://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7766/runbe5.th.jpg
DFI LP UT P35-T2R + copper plate with 2 copper sinks on it
idle
cpu 41C/41C PWM 37C chipset 39C
load
cpu 67C/67C PWM 43C chipset 43C
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3210/idlexg1.th.jpghttp://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1544/runmk9.th.jpg
DFI LP UT P35-T2R + copper plate without any sinks
idle
cpu 40C/40C PWM 37C chipset 39C
load
cpu 67C/67C PWM 43C chipset 43C
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/2830/idleyo7.th.jpghttp://img354.imageshack.us/img354/2391/runfp0.th.jpg
DFI LP UT P35-T2R + Transpiper with SanAce 60mm
idle
cpu 41C/41C PWM 36C chipset 37C
load
cpu 67C/67C PWM 42C chipset 42C
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7475/idlegv4.th.jpghttp://img363.imageshack.us/img363/6181/runcv6.th.jpg
DFI LP UT P35-T2R + Transpiper passive mode
idle
cpu 41C/41C PWM 38C chipset 40C
load
cpu 68C/68C PWM 44C chipset 43C
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/102/idledm0.th.jpghttp://img363.imageshack.us/img363/2574/runfo9.th.jpg
DFI LP UT P35-T2R with no transpiper or copper bridge
idle
cpu 41C/41C PWM 38C chipset 41C
load
cpu 69C/69C PWM 45C chipset 44C
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/8919/idleat3.th.jpghttp://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6429/runot9.th.jpg
CPU->E6600 @ 3640mhz 1,47v
FSB->520mhz
Vcore->1.5v idle 1.47v load
VNB->1.77v
VTT->1.6v
CPU PLL->1.75v
Vdimm->2.14v
Room temp ->25C
CPU Cooler->Thermalright Ultra 120 extreme
CPU fan->SanAce F12-N/38 2600rpm 102.4CFM
Tnaspiper fan->SanAce F60-PWM 4600rpm 23CFM
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http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/1...5331ho0.th.jpghttp://img488.imageshack.us/img488/2...1695lo7.th.jpghttp://img488.imageshack.us/img488/1...5314md4.th.jpghttp://img472.imageshack.us/img472/2725/10gj9.th.jpghttp://img354.imageshack.us/img354/397/11ax7.th.jpg
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/9218/12gp1.th.jpghttp://img488.imageshack.us/img488/3641/13or9.th.jpghttp://img472.imageshack.us/img472/3380/14sv5.th.jpghttp://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4255/15ry9.th.jpghttp://img354.imageshack.us/img354/7019/003pv2.th.jpg
I will agree with you on that Craig Abit IP35 Pro has definitely opened my eyes to Abit its really just a excellent board and the support for the board is very good unlike the dficlub which quite honestly is a friggin joke these days no disrespect intended towards Robert (Rgone) or any of the other fellas there for that matter but no one even goes there anymore which equates into problems for D.F.I Inc considering the complexity of the Bios on their boards it needs full time addressing even for skilled overclockers!Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
I think D.F.I better pull their act together with this whole support thing because if they don't me thinks they are finished:yepp:
Re : Lack of action at DFiClub Maybe we all need to start posting there ourselves and not wait for "others" to do so. I am guilty :( of just going and looking each day and not posting anything there at all. But I am such a novice at overclocking that I do not feel I have anything constructive to offer at this stage.
Back on topic - new bios and the P35 Lanparty. :up: Andre it has made a huge difference to me from a benching perspective - the bios has made it more stable to bench (on air) at 4.1Ghz. :clap: Thank you very very much.
Personally I am finding it very challenging (but enjoyable) trying to figure out this mobo, but I would like a more detailed (technical) explanation of what all the myriad bios settings do or are - as well as the relationship between them. I worked out mathematically that to physically test each setting that is available in the current bios would take over 1256 reboots and that is just individual settings not how they interact to and with each other. Total number of permutations is 1575 K plus. :rofl: :rofl:
Its not that people won't go there and post its more like D.F.I has just recently brought something to the table late yes but not even any where near as late as the 680i was and thats probably the story in a nut shell.
So here we are with this stellar board they just released and hardly anyone is even using it! As very limited as my use of the board was before it crapped out 2hrs later.....lol....(not really funny) all I can ascertain is that there is a plethora of very involved Bios settings which are completely uncommon to Intel boards and next to no user base to decipher them in a timely fashion.
Might want to read http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=4487 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 1Day
Only real time consuming part is clock fine delay values for me. 8/23 bios make it much easier to work with though. I just which 5:8 divider would work properly heh
More memory tests this time focusing on performance in terms of Super Pi 32M efficiency at around 3800-3850Mhz range.
Q6600 G0 @8x475FSB 1:2 950mhz 7-7-7-18 2x1GB OCZ PC3-14400 Platinum
Asus Blitz Extreme
First, here is a 32M run @3800Mhz with 2x1GB OCZ PC3-14400 Platinum @8x475FSB 1:2 950mhz 7-7-7-18 resulting in 12m 33.281s completion time. Yes used Q6600 G0 retail cpu on DDR3 system so probably not 100% comparable.
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...2m33s281ms.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli..._bandwidth.png
E6850 @9x475FSB 5:6 570mhz 4-4-4-9 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500
DFI LP UT P35-T2R
Now here's DFI LP UT P35-T2R comparison with 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 @9x475FSB 5:6 570mhz 4-4-4-9 bios boot as well as a 2nd run with windows memset tweaked timings.
Bios booted 32M run
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...2m34s922ms.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_..._bandwidth.png
Memset tweaked 32M run
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...7ms_memset.png
E6850 @9x481FSB 5:6 577mhz 4-4-4-9 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500
DFI LP UT P35-T2R
Used setFSB to bump FSB from 475FSB to 481FSB leaving Memset tweaked stetings in place.
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...2ms_memset.png
23/08/07 Bios Settings:
Quote:
CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled
Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 8x
- Target CPU Clock: 3800Mhz
CPU Clock: 475FSB setfsb to 478FSB
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 333/800
- Target DRAM Speed: DDR2-1141 setFSB to 577mhz
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.5000v
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.47
SB 1.05V Voltage: 1.217
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
NB Core Voltage: 1.57
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.30
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 110
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- DIMM 1 CLK fine delay: Current 1
- DIMM 2 CLK fine delay: Current 5
- DIMM 3 CLK fine delay: Current 1
- DIMM 4 CLK fine delay: Current 6
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 4
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 9
All Precharge to Act: AUTO
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 24
Performance Level: AUTO
Read delay phase adjust: AUTO
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 11
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 10
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): 4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): 5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): 4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Thanks eva2000 - good article and well presented and thought out.:up:
Just saw this on the egg.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835231001
I didn't know that DFI sells the heatsink separately.:rolleyes:
testing 8/10 - 8/23 and 9/13 bios' under ln2 this weekend it became clear that the 8/23 is by far the best allowing almost 200mhz greater final core speed...
You're welcome :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 1Day
E6850 air cooled @4133Mhz at 1.632v load
Testing E6850 L723A347 max overclock on Scythe Infinity air cooling and manages to pull off 4133Mhz at 1.6v + 103.3% = 1.64v bios = 1.664v windows idle and 1.632v windows load.
System
- Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 retail L723A347 G0
- Scythe Infinity with modded mount + 120x25mm Spire 96cfm fan
- Transpiper heatsink NOT installed
- DFI LP UT P35-T2R 8/23 bios flashed from 8/10
- 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
- 2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500 naked modules Green dimm slots
- 80GB Hitachi 7K80 SATA
- LiteON CD-RW
- 700W OCZ GameXStream
- WinXP Pro SP2
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_..._validated.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...m_12s141ms.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...1m43s188ms.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...34/everest.png
23/08/07 Bios Settings:
Quote:
CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled
Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 9x
- Target CPU Clock: 4131Mhz
CPU Clock: 459FSB
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 333/333
- Target DRAM Speed: DDR2-1150
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.6000v
CPU VID Special Add: 103.30%
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.47
SB 1.05V Voltage: 1.217
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
NB Core Voltage: 1.57
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.30
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 110
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- DIMM 1 CLK fine delay: Current 14
- DIMM 2 CLK fine delay: Current 5
- DIMM 3 CLK fine delay: Current 13
- DIMM 4 CLK fine delay: Current 4
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 4
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 9
All Precharge to Act: AUTO
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 24
Performance Level: 6
Read delay phase adjust: AUTO
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 11
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 10
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): 4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): 5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): 4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
I don't know if I skipped it, but does this board have any vdroop issues like the ASUS ones?
With vdroop control enabled/disabled, depending on bios the vdroop is pretty much taken care of.Quote:
I don't know if I skipped it, but does this board have any vdroop issues like the ASUS ones?
On that note, with the latest bios 9/13 has the vdroop control option been corrected?
RLM
This thread is such a valuable resource: I have yet to open the box--still messing with the Infiinity to get my head back into DFI--but I feel like I have gained some insight.
hey guys could some one tell me what kind of voltages do you consider to be safe for NB, if i dont use a fan above it ????
probably 1.4-1.53v with fan maybe up to 1.57v for 24/7 benching up to 1.8v heheQuote:
Originally Posted by Solarfall
4x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500
@600Mhz 5-5-5-15
Time to start testing 4GB configuration with 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500 :)
System
- Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 retail L723A347 G0
- Scythe Infinity with modded mount + 120x25mm Spire 96cfm fan
- Transpiper heatsink NOT installed
- DFI LP UT P35-T2R 8/23 bios flashed from 8/10
- 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
- 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500 (2x 2GB sets) cooled by 3x 60x25mm Sunon 23.5CFM MagLev fans
- 80GB Hitachi 7K80 SATA
- LiteON CD-RW
- 700W OCZ GameXStream
- WinXP Pro SP2
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_..._validated.png
Super Pi 32M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...3m20s313ms.png
OCCT 30Min test - monitoring via Everest Ultimate
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...occt_30min.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...02h42-CPU1.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...rtGuardian.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...2h42-VCore.png
23/08/07 Bios Settings:
Quote:
CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled
Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 9x
- Target CPU Clock: 3600Mhz
CPU Clock: 400FSB
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 266/800
- Target DRAM Speed: DDR2-1203
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.37500v
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.27
SB 1.05V Voltage: 1.217
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
NB Core Voltage: 1.57
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.30
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 110
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- DIMM 1 CLK fine delay: Current 14
- DIMM 2 CLK fine delay: Current 4
- DIMM 3 CLK fine delay: Current 14
- DIMM 4 CLK fine delay: Current 5
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 15
All Precharge to Act: AUTO
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 35
Performance Level: AUTO
Read delay phase adjust: AUTO
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 11
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 10
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Here is LT P35-T2R pics.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...00#post2435400
It's cheaper UT P35-T2R about 30 USD.
How about DFI-STREET back instead minus that :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: Travis Hill:D
got my board up and running yesterday, the bios is feature full in every direction, though the auto presets are the closest I've ever seen to maxing out each scenario without need for massive user intervention if one is not inclined for it. Just experimenting on nailing down the Read Delay Phase shift settings and fully nailing the More aggressive clock options to get access latency down lower than the 975, so far so good...
regards
Raja
DFI have a support forum http://www.csd.dficlub.org/forum/Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau;
No need to bash Travis he no longer works for DFI so you don't have to visit his forum for DFI support
Hey, Tony whats up? Its not the dficlub or anyone on the forum for that matter Tony its the lack of the user and member base. Like I said I mean no disrespect to DFI or anyone on that forum when I said what I did but the fact remains the same DFI really does need to regain the huge member base and following and popularity at dficlub that they had with DFI-STREET.
Travis.....yea don't even approach me to elaborate on that subject because its only going to turn sour with me and get me very upset and pissed off in a hurry!
You still can't buy either DFI P35 in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
By the time that they turn up here so will have X38 ...
Where can you donwload latest beta bios for that board?
we are working on some further info in this thread.
http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthr...1034#post31034
Our appologies for being a little slow, we will try and break down some of those settings here....
regards
Raja