i did the mod this past weekend and when i booted into BIOS, just like vlad it gave me the (only) option of 3200+ which means its a 200mhz fsb, hmm
but, i corrupted the bios so results will have to wait til friday cuz i ordered a bios savior kit
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i did the mod this past weekend and when i booted into BIOS, just like vlad it gave me the (only) option of 3200+ which means its a 200mhz fsb, hmm
but, i corrupted the bios so results will have to wait til friday cuz i ordered a bios savior kit
worked for me.... Tbred B 1700+ DLT3C JIUHB 166fsb mod via Socket shunt... on the EPox 8rda3+ rev 2.1 board...
Beforce 226fsb max stable... i just finished the mod, and currently at 231mhz without Errors on any benchmark ( before the mod, 230 was a Big BSOD or errors everywhere)
i will se the max stable today, im trying to see if i lost performance with the mod......
thanks, cya
Hi.. thats work in a Epox8rda3+?
If you read the first post you would have seen that it works only on nf7 rev2 but some people have had success with other boards
You can try it (it doesn't take time) and report here your success
:confused:
hi... i make teh mod, but dont notfy any diference... Antes o Tbred ia a 230X10, depois, foi a 235X10..
100+
First tell us what the chips default FSB is or tell us the code on the chip. The result the bios and tell us what the cpu is recognised as. Does it default to 266 or 333 Mhz FSB? Other than that does it make any difference to ur overclock?
Nice job with the screeniesQuote:
Originally posted by Tension_36th
Hey Anti-top, Mr PC Ice, nice job anyways, coz over all, i've got better bandwidth than the 225FSB i used to run stable...though relatively very less for the speeds that am running it at....
Any insights greatly welcomed...
Best Wishes
Tension_36th
But I'm antipop not anti-top :) and i didn't do a lot here just sum up what was found by others but thank anyway :)
I've done the L12 & 8bit mod to a number of thoroughbred's with great results but lately i've been playing with a 2400xp-mobile which has a default of 133fsb. So far it has no problem doing 230fsb & higher. Next time i tare down ill do both mods to it to see if it helps or hurts.;)
keep us updated, but i'm sure it'll help ;)
The mod worked for me I got my previous highest stable of 215fsb back after modding my xp-m. I've been reading this:
http://www.logan.eclipse.co.uk/abit_nf7_(s)_v2_0.htm
"
there appears to be no set regimental "type" that Abit is churning out. In fact there seem to be two specific “types” of NF7 style mobo. One that will do 220fsb and above and one that will not do anything above the 215-220 fsb range. ...Once you are sure you can get in at the 220fsb range (and higher i.e. Barton) then switch it off as we have other things to do. IF ON THE OTHER HAND it will not OC to a high fsb and is looking to be a crap OC’ing mobo; then the answer I am afraid is to RMA the mobo or be happy with your lot. NOW you have to remember that to do 220fsb+, you must have very good Memory and P/supply to get there. No point in RMA’ing a perfectly good OC board if the rest of your hardware is the limiting factor."
U think I got a lemon? Would it be a waste of time to do vmod?
yay i got some results:
before: 232fsb 1:1 with 1.7vdd 2.95 vDimm
http://www.angelfire.com/pro/blinky/.../oc/232fsb.JPG
after: 240fsb 1:1 with 1.7vdd 2.95 vDimm
http://www.angelfire.com/pro/blinky/.../oc/238fsb.JPG
i got a sandra score at 240fsb but i cant find the screenie
the good news is that my Ram (XMS3200) does 240 with 2.95
so now i gotta do a vDimm mod
This is your second post and you start messing with the big guys?? You're not going to last long here :D :D (jk)Quote:
Originally posted by Tension_36th
@Antipop:
LOL, ok from now on your Anti-top, just J/kin'
And i forgot
Welcome to the Sickness
Yeah i am, so don't piss me off :D :D
You have to start somewhere, i was at hard before until i was flamed there
Don't worry it's not the postcount that matters but the quality of posting (which have been way down lately for me :( )
whats the 8bit mod? i've done the L12 mod and had really good results but if theres another mod that i can do to improve my system i wanna do itQuote:
Originally posted by vlad
I've done the L12 & 8bit mod to a number of thoroughbred's with great results but lately i've been playing with a 2400xp-mobile which has a default of 133fsb. So far it has no problem doing 230fsb & higher. Next time i tare down ill do both mods to it to see if it helps or hurts.;)
Quote:
Originally posted by Tension_36th
The 8 Bit mod gives ya the so called "user defined" mode....
Nothin' but the choice of the setting the CPU speed by the AMD PR standards....
Like 2500+
2600+
2700+
2800+
3000+
3100+
3200+
blah blah....
Nothing more than some neat settings....no performance increase...
I don't not need it, neither do you, as we like overclocking manually....well atleast thats my opinion..... ;D
Best Wishes
Tension_36th
That's about the size of it, no proformance increase but its pretty
cool & youre right there doing the L12 mod it only takes another second to do the 8 bit mod. I've found that if youre using a bios prior to D18 you get 2400+ thru 3100+ & user defined. but D18 & later you get user defined & 3200+. Two of my 1700+ DLT3C's that i did it to ran completely stable @ 3200+ with the default 1.5v vcore. the 2400+ mobile im using now only shows user defined without the mod & defaults to 6x100fsb when you clear the cmos so i plan to do it just to have a quick jump from 100 to 200 fsb then user defined from there on so yea it doesnt have any real proformance value but its still pretty cool. But i must have done something wrong tho because i didnt the blah blah adjustment maybe ill do it over. :shrug: :up: :welcome:
When u clear cmos my chip shows 6 * 100 and user define. When I choose load optimised defaults it goes to x * 166. The 8-bit mode thing just doesn't work with the barton m, as far as I can see.
Is there any point in setting the default fsb to 200Mhz instead of 166Mhz? When I channged it from 133 it definatly helped the fsb. Got back to my normal fsb with DLT3C L12 modded (not 8-bit modded).
k now does 240fsb 1:1 3dmark stable w/2.95vdimm and 1.73vdd measured from multimeter
http://www.angelfire.com/pro/blinky/.../oc/240fsb.JPG
The L12 mod totally cleared up all problems I had with an Albatron KX18D Pro & a 2400+ XP-M(obile). Board will do over 250fsb Prime stable now at any multiplier! I haven't had a chance to push it to see how far it will go. It does at least 227 with default voltage now (1.6)
This is the first I heard of this in 24 pages. I didn't quite understand wicked cause he said he does 250FSB but hasn't quite tested the limit. Sig is conflicting info too.
Tension have u done the mod, is it applied now? U r saying BW is lost by doing L12 mod? Have u tried clearing CMOS and reinstalling to see if this los is still there? Got a link to that proof u were on about?
I know getting a xp-m and running at 215 fsb has definately helped my bandwidth and running at an unstable 220fsb the bandwidth really improved.
No I can't do 220 I said I could do 215. :stick: :confused: :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Tension_36th
Nope it ain't a lemon..if can do 220FSB at a low Multi....
Heres why....
I could only work at 214-215FSB with a 9.5 multiplier before the mod...and 220FSB with a 8 multiplier....
SO after the mod i can go as high as i can go on the FSB without worrying about the Multis, infact except 9 everything works fine!...
try 8 x 220FSB and see if ya can get it workin, always try for higher FSB with lower Multies first, not with higher Multies, and Norce 2 boards are notorious for being choosy about Multies....
MY ADVISE DO IT if ya can get 22FSB somehow without high Multies....
Keep us posted....
@Antipop:
LOL, ok from now on your Anti-top, just J/kin'
Best wishes
Tension_36th :D
I was reading these last pages and come across some pictures where you wrote that there was worse performance. But are you sure of that, because every pic that i saw there was something changed. Like lower multiple/ higher fsb ( some multiples dont work as good as others i think). Or just increased cpu speed.Quote:
Originally posted by Tension_36th
WiCKed,
Nice to hear your happy, but there is definitly a performance loss from the mod....
I i have stated with proof in the above few posts.....
iused to get very good results at 225FSB but now at around 263FSB am just getting a slightly higher increase when i should be getting a far higher increase.....
Try it out with sisoft sandra, and you'll see the difference, or 3dmark or any benchamrk, where memory banfwidth is important, and you'll notice what am talking about.....
Best Wishes
Tension_36th
Maybe you all already tryed that but if i look at the pictures it doesnt look that way. Maybe the ram is maxxed and perform a bit worse.
Sorry but big shot or no big shot i dont think thoose screenies are proof, not that i dont belive you conclusions are right but make some screenies after the mod at same speed as before (200*11, with all timings and volts the same as before). Thats better "proof".
Good luck btw.
the nf7-s2 has increased performance with cpu multipliers 10x and above. 9.5x and below have lesser bandwidth.
I get only slightly higher bandwidth using 240FSB 9.5x as compared to 230FSB 10x. Where as logically I would expect a greater increase.
This can only be ironed out with newer bioses. Thats where Abit fails us and we can only rely on people like TicTac for any help.
Another success here! Before the mod i could only get in windows with a fsb of 222 1.6 v on the vdd 2,3,3,7 and 2.7v on the ram. Now i can get the board to 238 mhz into windows. I ran it 6 ours priming at 228 1.6vdd 2,3,4,11 2.8v and it is stable. But all isnt good. Some multipleirs dont work (9x, 10x and 10.5x) above 218 fsb. I tried Tic Tacs 22 alpha 1 beta king bios and it fixes that. I have a 1700+ Jiuhb dut3c cpu and it does only 2240 mhz with 1.9v stable. So to get high bandwith I have to use 10x 230 nd my cpu isnt stable at tht clock. So I am thinking of a 2500+ barton. Which stepping to get? I need some compares between them.
Tnx
(My english is bad so try to understand me:)
thats very interesting and disapointing.
Why should there be a difference in the bandwidth?
All the L12 mod does, it tells the MB to run CPU at higher FSB.
Does that mean all 166 Bartons rum slower than 133FSB Thunderbirds?
I used to run at 225FSB before the mod, now I can run at 240 stable but with lower multi. I'm going to test after the mod at 225FSB just to compare the results.
some good investigative work there tension_36th
looks like the L12 mod is not a completely win win situation.
just so everyone isn't completely put off this try comparing performance before and after the mod, theoretical memory bandwith is important but isn't everything, i personnaly have defianetely found a performance gain from doing this mod (i've done a number of different benchmarks before and after) but others may only gain an extra 5Mhz on the fsb and loose out so experimenmt guys.