There's nothing wrong on this picture:
http://desertshooter.nl/OPBfake_new..png
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There's nothing wrong on this picture:
http://desertshooter.nl/OPBfake_new..png
OPB:-
"common, andy, eat those words back and be good for your mod . do it good not do me to death.
I am really sorry for you as you can act like a$$hole completely and certainly you know what you did.
so don't fake as blind and tell me
where, I did not see anything.
yup because you are purely just nothing to me.
period."
Is he talking about me ?
I think I have been rather restrained up to now, haven't posted for a while, but while since you bring my name up I might as well reply :-
Here's a thread someone pointed out recently about Coolaler cheating in 3dmark a while ago
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ler#post463164
Completely nailed by macci and Shamino .. macci just knew too much about 3dmark to be caught out , putting the icing on the cake of Shamino's work ;)
Now once a cheater always a cheater they say. So asuming Coolaler cheated then and assuming there are cheat methods available for SuperPi now and knowing how competitive you guys are over there then you can see why there is now so much suspicion. As you and Coolaler got going did you perhaps just get a bit carried away to win the day with the final top scores ?
Now you can go and write *%#" etc etc in your forum about me. I take it rather as a complement, must be getting a bit close to the truth eh ?
Regards
Andy
Interesting image filename there............. They do seem to be suspicious though.Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertShooter
Your analysis shows that .png is the only way to go for faking images :D
To others who say that statistically anomylous results need to be investigated further, absolutely. Is saying the results are wrong unless proven otherwise really the way to go though?
If I ran a bugged run of 8.905 at 5.6GHz tonight, it wouldn't be TOO out of line, but it would still be a bugged run, and therefore wrong.
Just because a result has stood for 2 months does not mean it's passed the test.
Always waiting a spi very optimised Superpi bench under camera...
5GHz sub 10s :D should be easily done since OPB get 8.9s for 5.5xxGHz
I can see this is going to turn into OPB and everyone from OCX taking shots at Vapor and everyone else who isn't agreeing wholeheartedly with them. OPB already pretty much lashed out at everyone not on his side, in broken english sure, but regardless that tells me he has something to hide.
Omastar, we need a cam bench, not his tweaks...
However, since he won't answer our question directly or via a friend, he make me more and more convinced that he cheated (bench at higher freq then lowering freq for telling : look I'm a god of optimisation
Hey mate! we are longer no "taking shots" to vapor or to anyone here, we are being polite and giving the respect you dont give us. Please all the talking is enough. If OPB want to share his tweaks he will do, and if not there is nothing to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omastar
Flaming this thread to 1xxxx pages wouldnt do him replying, and If you already think he is cheating no one of his tweaks will do you think other thing, so please, understand my broken english and stop flaming.
If you guys are happy thinking he is a cheater is ok for me. If you guys are happy thinking his WR run is "not legit" its ok for me too, but please, no more posting taking shots for OCX or OPB, lets only wait and see. Thanks you :)
cheers:)
Wrong example as for my oppinion.........In sports you have to explain WHY you got those anabolics pills and you came first......;) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by massman
Please stop the XS v OCX bullcrap. That's not the intention or desire of this thread, so just let it down. This goes for people on both sides of the fence (you should know who you are).
Final Warning.
p.s., I think we can all agree that OPB and/or Coolaler's words and/or actions are needed to clarify at this point....let's see if we can get that account issue fixed
EDIT: and hipro....let's add a 'bug' scenario to sports: Justin Gatlin's WR in Dubai, was recinded into a tie for the WR because of a TIMING error :p:
Sharing their tweaking is meaningless.
If they want to prove they did't cheat before, I think the best way would be shoot a little film to show how they get the results, including turning on their machines, adjusting the oc options, downloading the spi 1.5 program from xs, and getting the 'amazing' results.:toast:
You're no longer taking shots? What does that mean? The post I saw from OPB made it sound like he took shots at quite a few people, and he's the one who is getting overly defensive about this whole matter. Why? Does he have something to hide? You can't place the blame on XS for something OPB clearly doesn't want to demonstrate for it. The tone in his post alone makes it sound like he's not going to share tweaks, let alone a cam bench. And the purpose for knowing his tweaks are so someone else can replicate them and try to find out how much time they take off the Spi1m run, and indeed if they do coincide with OPB's results. That's all. But OPB seems pretty resistant to any of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by J0d3r
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Originally Posted by boblemagnifique
It's OFFENSIVE to them......So PLEASE FORGET this word......;)
actually there is a little something in that in AMD but not as significant as S7 was saying it wasQuote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
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Originally Posted by hipro5
yes , i didn't know :) , I excused myself towards the Japanese community and even in pm at Dumo :toast:
I calculated the best frequency to have a sub 10.000 (9.999) is around 5011MHz = ~50110 (2:3 ratio is needed) and full optimizations, so the sub 9s (8.999s) is at 5568MHz (2:3 too)
already awesome but not impossible, I can :)
Shi(f)t!.........This thread eats much of my time!......I just finished reading the rest of it...... :(
I have come to one conclusion so far:
OPB and Coolaler will not be the same to many of you/us......Blanked names that will be "on air" for ever with doubts......I would never like to be in their place......:(
nice correction for there and their :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
not quoted :D
uh, goes to the bed!!
In fact, with 2:3 we can keep a very nice time-frequency ratio, 49600 ~4.2GHz :)
What exactly are we waiting to see? No sign of any reasoning by either party involved...Quote:
Originally Posted by J0d3r
if anything this thread is a perfect example of what happens when a respected figure decieves their comunity.
hopefully either one can right themselves since the community would be losing some very influencial ppl to reason yet unknown...
I personally looked up to both and it would be disheartening to not see them around anymore.
NOTHINGQuote:
Originally Posted by T_M
this thread is obsolete
OPB is not going to say anything as he previously stated except for a bunch of jibberish taiwanese style :p: and coolaler's LOOOOOOOOOOONG gone
someone close this thread and let's move on will ya
well, We must remove its 1M WR or not? its 32M seems ok :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I prefer to close your mouth for a long time :D (joke) :p
Not sure why I just read the whole thread, perhaps I was hoping for one of the two accused parties to retailate, but it seems that it didn't happen
I'm inclined to think the fact they don't even want to tell everyone to fook off with the insinuations is not doing them any good, just like the fact they are steering clear off these forums after they have done so much to be spoken about, be known as record breakers and that; they seem comfortable with mud all over themselves rather than standing up and getting rid of it... if this is the case, so be it.. but the room for explanations shrinks day by day..
i'm not going to join the "dude watch !! this bit lacks a grey dot so it must be fake" bandwagon.. even though I was there with everyone else's :eek: ing at the weirdness of certain PI loops, nevertheless trial tells me that it can happen and that it deffinately has happened in the past
OPB and coolaler... like my dad once said, never run off your problems/insecurities, or they will just multiplicate by several orders of magnitude !! (alas, if you ignore the :banana::banana::banana::banana: yourselves have indirectly caused on here, you might be accused by your fellas too at one point.. and i'm pretty sure it is not the biggest motivator to carry on your overclocking hobby at its best and fullest !)
yet again if you two are comfortable with all of this, so be it !! i'm sure XS members lives will not stop here :D
hahahah :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by cpulloverclock
Canada/France/Boston, MA you gonna make you mind up already :p:
i think the difference between our post counts says a lot dinos
:P