I think this sort of scale would work, the sheer weight of the heatsinks needed for the 680i would reveal it:p: :Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
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I think this sort of scale would work, the sheer weight of the heatsinks needed for the 680i would reveal it:p: :Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Hey Tony, you gonna try some of the OCZ ATI Cert memory in this board?? I've got 4 gig, and am curious as to the performance with the RD600 chipset...:cool:
excellent thanks Tony :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
This board should be available for purchasing...tmrow !
Is this on air? *really hopes it's air*Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
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Originally Posted by Vice
Now where did you get that information
its been posted on several forums around the web, no actual confirmations from what Ive read.
You mean that the Rd600 is hotter than 975X? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Frodin
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Originally Posted by Poodle
OT but.... If the RD600 had to choose, would it be boxers or briefs?
Should commando be added into the choice of boxers or briefs? Bad pun I know.
Why would this board be called a 3200 if it is only 8x + 8x instead of 16x + 16x....I thought that was the point.....is it possible that it is 16x + 16x in crossfire but when used with a physics card it drops to 8x + 8x x 2x? I've read the manual and it says nothing about plain crossfire speeds ....only speeds with the physics card
its 8x8, remember the chipset was designed along side the rd480 which was 8x8 alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by 2000army
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Originally Posted by Tony
Does this pose a problem for future proofing and more demanding video cards?
I thought it was the sequel or brother to rd580 :/
Not at all. From what I've heard It's more like a back engineered i975X. (Don't laugh too hard if I'm wrong. :))Quote:
Originally Posted by 775911
Can the second PCIe slot be used for a non-video card? I'd be interested in running a single vid card + PCIe raid down the road.
Lets hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vice
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Originally Posted by AMDfreak
That's my plan also (I've already got the drives). That's why I've been hammering Tony and Bingo about the onboard Promise. If it had been on PCIe that would have solved a lot of problems (I'm not greedy as I don't need the Areca 200MB/s but more than the 20MB/s that a PCI connected promise has).
The thing is that I believe that If we put a Raid ctrl on the 2nd PEG slot the first one will surely be strangled down to 8X (8+8+2).
So if we want full BW on the first PEG slot we have to put the ctrl on the 3rd 2X PEG slot (which might bottleneck some ctrl:ers that are 4X). But then we will not be able to use a ATI Physics card in the future.
Most 975 boards have 16X + 4X... IMO, the Akilles heel of this board is definitely the amount of PCIe lanes. Seems like the NICs stole all the lanes(?).
This said, I still want the board because of the Bios and the digital VRM. But if I have to wait till sometime in Feb for this board, I might as well wait some more for a BW rich Amd 690 board and an Agena chip. :slapass:
It was on air, lots and lots of air. CM Stacker case, replaced the four 120mm fans on the door with high speed units and hung two others over the CPU area. Not something you would want to do for very long. ;) Also, pushed the volts on the board way up and the CPU was at 1.575V. My E6600 is not that good so I had to zap it. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Yay for Cheese
Does anyone know if this will this board actually be available to purchase tommorrow? The only pre-order\backorder I have seen in the states is ZZF and they have had it backorederd for at least a month.
Hey all,
After I spent 2 hours of reading and taking notes I wanted to share it with you also.
NONE OF THE BELOW INFORMATION BELONGS TO ME, but rather a summary of KEY points IMO. use it wisely!
Big thanks to Tony and Bingo!!
BOARD PHYSICAL & BIOS
1)
The manual is available for download at DFI.
3 PCI Express x16 slots for ATI CrossFire and ATI Physics
2+1 Configuration (2 Graphics + 1 Physics)
- 2 ATI CrossFire graphics cards (each operates at x8 bandwidth).
- 1 ATI Physics graphics card operates at x2 bandwidth.
3 PCI slots
2) Two things about this board make me think voltages will be more stable than what we've been used to on the Intel side...
a. It's got 6-phase digital pwm.
b. It's not an Intel chipset.
3) Its 16X with one card or 8x8 with 2, issue is just like Nf4 its fast with dual cards, I actually feel 16X 16X is not needed.
4) RD600 is actually quite old, I have a board here from over a year ago using a very early version of the chipset.
As far as i know there are 14 revisions of the chipset now, 13 and 14 being the best.
So....this chipset was actually designed ways back with RD480 which was 8 x 8 also.
EDIT: AMD just corrected me, 4 revisions of RD600, 13 and 14 being the 3rd and 4th...so 4 respins overall.
5) Bios shots: http://www.thetechrepository.com/sho...39&postcount=6
6) of interest
DDR2 Ram 1.8V –range not shown
CPU VTT 1.2V – range 1.20-1.60V
NB Core 1.2V – range not shown
NB PLL 1.8V – range 1.80-2.50V
NB PLL 2.2V – range 1.20-1.45V
NB FSB Strapping Auto, 100,133,166,200,266,300, and 333
Address/Command Timing Auto 1T, 2T, and 3T
BOARD PERFORMANCE
1) Just so you know.
FSB CPU 511 max thru bios
MEM FSB 658 Thru bios, so 1316 max DDR2
2) Droop
Idle 1.596
load 1.590
under nature 3d01, Orthos is crashing the board here. (feels like a code issue) All 3d at this time has been fine.
3) guys apps can have code issues with chipsets, we saw the same with early builds of memtest86 and prime had issues with Athlons also.....so it just may need a tweak or two to run 100% on this ATI chipset. Then again it may be just plain unstable...I will try to run some tests to see soon. (ORTHOS versus application stability talking)
4) There are not any memory dividers on the RD600 per say. The memory clock is true async if you want it be. I can set DDR2-1103 with a 283FSB or DDR2-981 if I want as an example. The memory clock is totally independent of the CPU FSB in async mode and it works very well.
5) Guys some more info for you;
RD600 is not as fast as i975 for superPI, if this matters to you and you spend all your life watching the PC crunch 20 loops then this is not the board for you.
RD600 is FAST in 3d though, and I hear with a hacked SLI driver its faster than i680 in SLI with 7900's.
So PI freaks may be disappointed, 3D benchers may be thrilled....you just need to decide what’s for you.
6) Ram performance @ 550 and 571: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=456
7) Sata performance: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=474
8) small summary:
a) 511 FSB at least 4 hours orthos stable (blend)
b) SLI hacked drivers work
c) Faster in 3D than 680i
d) memory clock is true async
e) up to 1.94 Vcore available
f) vdroop of .006 @ load seen thus far
AVAILABILITY
1) Who did you speak with?
I just got off a call with DFI USA in an attempt to settle this argument of will there or won't there be boards. This is what I know.
They have a sample run made, these boards should hit the USA before Xmas, this is like the 975 infinity where 30 boards or so shipped.
Now...there are some tweaks to be made, this was the whole point of 4 people getting the board to test. These should be just bios issues though so no hold up is expected on this first small shipment.
Final run will be made soon and these boards will be available in the new year, this was always the case for absolute mass production boards and not the pilot run.
I hope this settles the will there or the won't there be...all being well there will be a small shipment as i have been saying all along, if something serious turns up though there could be a small delay which would push things back to the new year.
SOURCE (especially big thanks to Tony and Bingo):
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=356
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=349
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=456
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=474
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=452
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=443
http://www.thetechrepository.com/sho...39&postcount=6
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=234
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=239
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=250
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=215
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=168
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=99
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...7&postcount=62
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=33
Edited...
Silly question, but is it faster or slower than 975 with one gfx card? If it's faster i CF and slower than 975 with singel card, well you know... :rolleyes:
Did a little more testing, this time 1T vs 2T vs 3T.
have a look here for more info
weird stuff regarding 3T there!