i live in UK, very hard to find chipset coolers on air, Swiftech is very rare.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDeeds
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i live in UK, very hard to find chipset coolers on air, Swiftech is very rare.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDeeds
well after playing with this 13 final bios i can say that at least for me this is the best one so far. one major change is that finally i can use multi 6-9x without getting some serious fsb problems, still something easy like 9x390 is just FREEZE. Atm i'm at 360x10 and i can use my ram with 4:5 so this is one nice improvement too and one last thing is that uguru now remembers all settings even when i unplug my psu cause with earlier bioses my oc settings were lost every time i did that...
I am currently running 365x9 with ram at 1:1. I am getting ready to try the ram at 4:5. With Orthos running my cpu its 41 Celsuis.
BIOS with 1333 strap!!! http://www.lvcoyote.com/betabios9.zip
BIOS Date: 12/19/2006
[IMG]http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8...0001om4.th.jpg[/IMG]
wow did u personally test it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lalaboy
the guys on abit board test it..
http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?t=117944
The beta BIOS works ok, that means, it didn't kill my board :p: :p:
Anyway, the BIOS is still not the one that Kentsfield guy like me is waiting for. It's not stable for Kentsfield OC, 320MHz is still the ceiling even with lowered multi.
As for Conroe, I am still Priming at 400MHz with 1333Mhz strap. I am happy that there's now a 5:4 ratio (no, not the 4:5) so I can lower down my RAM and CPU frequency and see how far the mobo can go unmodded.
After 30min of Prime, I'll stop it, and push it to 415MHz and Prime again for 30min, and so on and so forth till I know when to add more vMCH.
haha new record for me 391x9 \o/ lol.
Looks like I may have to give it a try. Will post back when I give it a go.
Finally! Ill check it out later
Trying the 1333 strap bios now, cpu-z v1.38 give an error it says im running the memory at 4:5 at 525 when, and im actually running it at 1:1 420
Nothing...
well that bios i must trie out :)
crystal cpuid shows clock of indiv cores on kentfields, I was hoping 1.3 final fixed the upward multis on quad cores... aw9d allows 300x12 stable while p5b is 292x12 stable for me
BIOS 13.A11 works with no problem whatsoever. In fact, I find it a little more stable than BIOS 13 Final. No more missing SATA and LAN options in onboard devices page.
Max FSB applied through BIOS
BIOS 13 F: 470-475MHz
BIOS 13.A11: 480-485MHz
*Max Windows bootable is still limited to 460MHz
Tried running ORTHOS Blend at 400FSB - 1.75vMHC + TR HR-05, but failed on the 56th minute. Yup, CPU-Z 1.38 has issues reading the mem ratio. I'm also seeing that the CPU gets a little overvolting action. Applied 1.4V at "OC Guru" and Abit EQ reads 1.44-1.43v.
Do not believe "OC Guru", measure with a digital multimeter.Quote:
Originally Posted by pcmoddingmy
I was able to get 9x390 stable. VCore set at 1.475 MCH at 1.58. I ran orthos for a bit over 10 hours. CPU temp never went over 45C. I have the ram running at 4:5, timing 5-5-5-18-35. I might be able to better if the ram would take it. That and I need to learn more about timing it.
I didn't gain a single mhz from the 1333 strap.
e nieghter i not even could save my setting in bios all gets back to default as soon as a save and exit and get in to bios again nothing savet at all strange i have the same issue with the final bios crazy i think, i must be the only one thats stuck with my older bios ..
New strap has done me some good. As y'all may recall I was stuck at 9*379 with minimal voltages.
Swapping to the 1333 strap gave me a bencheable drop in performance.
But did allow me to hit up 9*391 stable:
9*391 memory 1:1
1.2875v/1.6v/2.3v
orthos blend 30min.
sp 1m.
This makes up for the 1333 performance loss, altho required more voltage.
navig
For me that 1333 strap didn`t help raising fsb too. Well, I think my AW9 is just a
bad overclocker. I´m still stuck on 2,6GHz / FSB 373 just like without strap.
So yesterday I did what I should have done much earlier.
I swapped my AW9D-Max with P5B Vanilla and before I mounted it into my case and into my water cooling I did vmch-, vcore-droop- and Vdimm-Mod. But those mods are still disabled and now I´m at 3 GHz / 430 FSB rock stable with orthos blend / large and prime95 just as well. And that on first try. Let´s see what I can do with mods enabled. I´ll give feedback again after testing.
Will sell now my AW9D-max.
Greetz!
I had similar issues too, did you disable the options in CPU Feature?Quote:
Originally Posted by chefnr1
Leaving CPU Feature in default mode should solve your problem...
AW9D-Max
Intel Core 2 Duo: 6600
Creative X-Fi
250gb some sort of Maxtor Drive
2 gigs Corsair XMS
FSB: 411 (2.0 MCH)
CPU: 3.7ghz (1.5V)
Ram: 5-5-5-13
No mods, strictly air cooled. Replaced northbridge with some coolermaster northbridge fan. Considering doing a VDroop mod, but I'm not sure how much more I'll be able to get out of aircooled considering how hot the Conroe is running. o.O
Ran Super Pi 32m twice with no stability problems. Will try other benches later.
http://www.regionzero.net/3.7ghz.jpg
ok but if i leave them at defaults CPU futures i cannot klock that high as i can with them disabled, but i have the same issue with 13 final bios and now even with my older beta bios that never failed , i think i've missed some parameters like /wb /qi /f so that bios will be over written totaly new bootblock and etc etc, will try that and se if that would help..Quote:
Originally Posted by pcmoddingmy
Quote:
Originally Posted by chefnr1
Hi. I have the same problem as you! After I flashed the 13 final bios I had some problem. So i flashed to my old b 13 03 bios and I don't have the same results as before. It is as the 13 final bios screwed my board:slapass: . So chfnr1 let us know of your results.
Thanks:)
have to write the usual parameters /py /sn /cd /cp /cc /cks /R and put in /qi /wb /f that would fix that it write over total so no fragments are left from older bios in the chip, thats how i'm gonna do, i'm gonna do it tomorrow because i just have my mb and both gfx in the owen to let all vaseline drip of ;)
Oh joy, I tried to flash the new BIOS.
Updated from the beta to the new final BIOS => flash hanged, non bootable ABIT board :/.
Quote:
Originally Posted by easypanic
Damn. :(
this is how i flashed AWDFLASH.EXE BIOS.BIN /py /sn /cc /cd /cp /wb /Qi /R that worked for me with BIOS 13 final, and i flashed with diskett in dos..
Do you have any results chefnr1? Any improvment?
I have to buy a floppy to flash my bios unless there is a way to do all those /* in the windows flash program.
my test with x6800 stock air box Intel - Abit AW9D-Max - CellShock 1000 c4 and bios Abit official 1.3
vcore 1,62 - mch 2.0v - vram 2.45 set up bios
spi1m
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5...537mhz2wx4.jpg
32m
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1...ram5235qa4.jpg
Cinebench2003
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/4...am537mhkk2.jpg
max FSB x9
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5...3800airnk1.jpg
my board work just fine now all is saved when i've set all in bios that i used to do and it stays no more back to defaults after save and exit, and i always flash with floppy in dos i think thats more safer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretender
I havent test nothing special yet will wait until later when it's been a little colder so that i can get in cold air to the rig.
Will update later today..
this newest beta bios seems to be the best one so far :) running orthos now 401x9(35min so far) and it's looking good. cpu features in bios are still no no for me, if i change them and save board won't boot but leaving them default seems to have no effect on me. maybe later i try reflash with same / as chefnr1...and still i can't use my default timings with my ram, they are 4-4-3-15 but memtest and others gives errors so i have to use spd from bios and i get 5-5-5-13 and i get no errors with those.
btw please somebody tell me, from uguru what temp is NB?
I flashed in windows with flash utility and it flashed fine.
Does anyone know why when I apply the 1333 strap 1:1 in BIOS, I get 4:5 in CPUZ.
Is anyone else getting this problem or maybe CPUZ doesn't like the 1333 strap.
From what I understand Conroe's like the 1:1, and anything different there is a drop in performance.
i think everyone who is using latest beta bios with 1333strap is getting that bug in cpu-z, so if u set 1:1 from bios then it's really that and u can ignore cpu-z ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by 326
1333 Strap is for a 333 FSB based CPU (333 x 4 = 1333)....thus 1:1 is DDR2-667 (333 x 2) but when using a 266 FSB based CPU (Conroe, Allendale, Kentsfield, etc) setting 1:1 on the 1333 strap results in a ram speed of DDR2-667 still, which is 4:5 as far as the CPU is concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by 326
No bug....just happens because of the strap manipulation that is going on.
okay thanks for the info RyderOCZ :)
edit: 410x9 going now, just ran pi32m successfully.
Off topic:
Nice pic Keiki !
;)
What could you do before?Quote:
Originally Posted by Keiki
Yeah thanks RyderOCZ, you too Keiki...
Looks funny when you know it usually runs 362.7MHz 1:1 with 4-4-4-12-16 with FSB at 363 then with same FSB with 1333 strap I get 453.5MHz 4:5 5-5-5-15-21.
The only thing I notice in the end is a difference is benchmark in PCMARK05 by 184 points with the 1066 strap coming out on top.
I am trying to keep this thing at stock voltage until I get a new PSU. At which point I will push a higher FSB. I'm looking at the new Silverstone Olympia 1K PSU. After putting in the RAID 0 this thing started sucking some juice, I'm waiting for my 8800GTX to come from EVGA as well (darn step-up seems like it takes forever), so that isn't going to help the power situation. I also want to cool down the NB like a lot of people have mentioned in this thread.
Well, thanks again for the info... Must sleep, got work in the morn.
BTW... Happy New Year everyone!!!
You can buy the bios chip directly from ABIT :)Quote:
Originally Posted by easypanic
http://www.abit-usa.com/abitparts/bios_chip_775.php
"No international shipment, U.S. and Canada Only" :)
I emaild Abit Benelux (and got an "Out of Office" reply :/ :( )
~390mhz was my max before so this is looking very very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
It seems I lost some stability with 1.3final, I will continue to test, but now I am at 412x9, 1.53vcore, 2.3 vdimm, 2.0vmch, also with this bios I have to enable eist to make changes to uguru within bios and get them to save, once changes are made I can disable eist, weird never had this issue before. I was at 423x9 , 1.56vcore, 2.3 vdimm, 2.0vmch on 1.3 beta4. Stable for me is atleast 8hrs large fft
one of my EXTREEM stick have died :( so i cant run any heavy test, but with one stick i can reach about 440x9 at 1,58v vcore...
That sucks chef, RMA?
FSB525 with the 14.b01 bios...
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=152277
lightspeed on cpu, and Thermalright HR-05 SLI on the NB...
NO MOD.. :p:
yep that is a must because they are good mem extreem...Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
that's great! even for a 2M L2 conroe...Quote:
Originally Posted by kiner
now i'd like to see 500+ with a 4M L2 conroe :)
Id love to see that also. No sarcasm intended.Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
here is my friend from nordichardware with my X6800 and a fully modded ABIT AW9D-MAX and corsair mem i dont have his validation link i copied from our forum, here ju have 500+fsb on conroe with a 4M L2 conroe and thats nice and it's run on a cascade.
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9486/x6800eb1.th.jpg
That's Crotales run isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by chefnr1
yes thats why i wrote that was my frind that done the run because they whant to see som 500 fsb on conroe 4mb L2, and as it was my cpu that was runnig so i just show it i will not take no creds for crotales run it was just for show to them that 500+ run..Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
Du förstår va jag menar va zeeke...
Haha
Jo, jag är helt med på noterna :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by kiner
where we can download it?
yea i wonder the same, have to try that 14.b01 bios to..
comon give us a link
I want to see these 500+ fsb runs on water or air, all i see is phase change for 500 and being honest that paints a poor picture as chilling the CPU will help other components also as they don't have to drive as hard.
I have 14beta 01 but until Abit release it you won't see it leaked from me.
I can boot at 500 1333 1:1 but im dropping back below 470 to get memtest running with a 6400. water and air cooled board, CPU VTT mod 1.8V
wow tony that's a pretty high cpu vtt!
i ran water/air and never put the vtt higher than 1.55 (as recommended by hipro)....
i wonder if the board woulda gone farther with more... woulda been interesting to try... too bad i got rid of the board
I have tried every voltage I can all the way to 1.9V and it still stops dead...im still tweaking.
Hardocp's glowing review of the aw9d-max lol:
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==
at least a review which wasn't "sponsored" and which did say the truth :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nettwerk
look at rest of reviews and all mention an oc monster (cough cough), is an oc monster but on phase and up ..:cool:
Those are a huge jump. With the 1.3 and 1333 I struggle to get 476. My board seems to be somewhat crabby now. I don't know if it is the bios or I need a OS re install.
Please tell me the new bios has vfsb adjustment?:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Tony, I am trying to find the CPU VTT mod here at XS but I can't find it anymore, can you point me to the right link? If you look at my post here: http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...postcount=1595Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
I needed that 1.8v CPU VTT as well. I have given up hope that Abit can add this feature when hipro said it can't be controlled via BIOS (though I still believe it can since the mobo supports a wide range of CPU that has different CPU VTT) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...115839&page=68
Though I long for that BIOS as well, I guess it's another 3mos before it's going to be released much like that BIOS13 and I am not willing to wait that long anymore. I am going Asus Commando as soon as it is released here where I live. This board is great for Conroe, but my Kentsfield longs for more.
Now if only they'd also sell Bad Axe 2 here :)....
Legit Reviews got theirs to 450 on air.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilfiger
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/414/5/
vfsb mod: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=21Quote:
Originally Posted by death metal
Me and Peter played around a bit on his pretty-much-unmodded board today, only thing changed is that the heattrasferthingies were replaced with AC5, got a max FSB @ 428 with 1066 strap and FSB 453 with 1333 strap. So there is pretty much to gain with the new bios
2 latest bios : http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread...=117944&page=4
I made the vfsb/vmch mod. I want to buy Q6600, but I don`t know, that the 400FSB 9x with Kensfield is only a dream with this board?!:(
anyone tried the 14 beta 1 yet, looks like som ppl over at abits forum are having trouble with it.. but ´then again.. ;)
i'm gonna take the risk and flash after some fan adjustments :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
i am on alpha bios, is great.. dosnt give me more fsb but i can run my memory at 1066 now without problems.
before i was crashing all the time at that speed.. things start looking good
the 1333strap is a no go for me, cant boot at 402 fsb :p
@Hilfiger
DDR2-1066 on 4:5 or 2:3 Divider? 2:3 is no problem for me, but 4:5 no go.
just flashed with floppy and it was success. still cpu features is no go but well that's life. Some minor changes here and there, bios is dated as 2.1.2007
edit: well what i did with my fans was good for cpu but not so good for mobo as it's now hitting 67c(1.9v) when runnig orthos...need to fix that asap.
im at 4:5Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlan1980
1066 strap
i just don't understand why abit didn't put active cooling to this mobo in the first place, i don't know what temps u get @stock but even with little oc and it's like sauna for those heatsinks. Now i added one 8cm fan to nb and got temp drop from 67c --> 56-60c ^^;
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlan1980
Same here, 4:5 is no go! 1:1 works great but it has always worked at least for me. As already said cpu features can't be turned off or it won't boot.
the heatpipe is cheaply made, even the thermal paste is bad,Quote:
Originally Posted by Keiki
the sb is covered with a plate of copper and then the sink.and the copper is sticked to sink with some very cheap thermal glue
so everything on SB needs to go thru 2 layers of thermalpaste :slapass:
the NB is so close to cpu socket that mostly of good coolers dont fit :D
Hilfiger: yep i noticed "the great paste" when i changed mine :) and as i got tuniq now too it's really hard to get any bigger fan to on nb, definetly harder than when i used watercooling :)
using 1333strap 415x8 ram 1:1 and cpu-z tells me this:
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2.../cpu-z_ram.jpg
hih..
Guess it likes the new bios even less.
If you are having ratio issues on your dimms its down to the SPD on the dimms. There should be tables for each speed in SPD with subtimings etc...if these are not to the boards liking you will have issues.
well i'm only having those "issues" when using 1333strap so i don't think there is any big problem
Posted @ Abit Forum
Well, gonna flash A02 now... :PQuote:
For those with error 20, try to boot with 1 RAM stick only and try different slots
Here it is what error 20 means:
(20)[Beep]=3-1-1 master DMA register test in-progress or failure. Test DRAM
refresh.(Beep)=1-3-1-1. Upper 16 of 32 bit test failed.
okay.
so after some testing here and there this 14 bios didn't improve my fsb much maybe couple mhz, so my max is around 410-420mhz which is enough if i use 10multi :)
flash complete.. bootet in bios, take my options and.. black screen :P
well after xx cmos clear i found the bug was "virtualization technology".. is the problem new? my last bios was 13 beta 03.
Well... BIOS14.A02 gives "20" error when running 1333 strap. In my case, I was at 400FSB on 1066 strap 1:1, then tried to run at 1333 strap 1:1 but got "20" error. Shutting off and turning on the PSU brought back the system to its previous working setting. Gotta love abit's OC recovery thingy ;)
I could Memtest1.65 at 472FSB x 7 on my E6300 but doesn't boot into Windows properly. Nevertheless, this was the first time I've tested my E6300 to do 3.3GHz on a 975X.
The "400FSB ORTHOS Blend" bug is still there... erros out at about 6mins into Blend at 2.0vMCH. Trying higher vCore now to see if it helps. Overall, AW9D-MAX is looking better by the day, provided you don't mess around with the CPU Feature :P
well when i use 10x401 my comp hangs at loading windows.. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Keiki
i am afraid to go over 1.6v in bios ,even if i have week1 cpu it should boot at 4Ghz :stick:
anyone got any ideas why comp hangs at loading windows when over 3.8Ghz? tryed all voltages and stuff at max, except cpu :)
you mean to disable all cpu features in order to overclock?Quote:
Originally Posted by pcmoddingmy
M606C_14.B01 is working fine for me, flashed BIOS in DOS... I'm off to watch some playoff football so I am not going to fool around tonight...
I do like the new bootscreen with the Samurai though! Peace out have a good weekend.
I liked the HardOCP review too untill they started bashing the OC potential of the board. They made some pretty bold statements about the board in the the opening and closing of review....
"The abit AW9D-MAX motherboard is abit’s premier offering for the Core 2 Duo line. With abit’s stellar reputation and the overclocking potential of the Core 2 Duo, this could be the match to beat...but it is not."
and in the "Bottom Line"
"The abit AW9D-MAX will prove to be a great motherboard for many folks. When it comes to overclocking, we highly suggest you spend you money elsewhere."
No... don't mess around with CPU Features means leave it to default mode. If you disable the CPU Features, your BIOS will not overclock. Meaning, it will keep reverting back to the previous FSB during the time that you disabled the CPU Features.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilfiger
The new bootscreen looks nice, I kinda like it.
Also, another interesting problem with A02. Everytime you clear CMOS with dual DIMMs, you will get "20" error code. To prevent this, run single DIMM whenever you clear CMOS. Now doing 400FSB at 1333 strap... no issues so far. Will try ORTHOS Blend later.
Edit: The A02 BIOS still has weird "missing Onboard Devices" issues where LAN and SATA enable/disable options will go missing upon Clear CMOS. Sometimes its visible, sometimes its invisible.. LOL
mh anyone notice that you need much more vcore for 400 stable or is it just me? but less vmch.. than in the old bios versions..
think my little infinity has to do lot of work :p:
Well the 14.02bios took me from not being able to boot above 405fsb to being able to boot at 430fsb. I can get into memtest at 420 and run spi 1m and 32m at 410. Running orthos now at 405. If it passes it will be an increase of 14mhz over my previous best. I did have to up the vmch to 2.0 and the vcore to 1.5. On 13 b03 voltage did not help to get me over 400.
diable all cpu features except VT..Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilfiger
ya... if u disable Virtualization technology u gonna get problems with either of those:
1) 8.3 error code on Post
2) Double and Triple reboots everytime u get into bios and change something
3) No POST and/or No Boot
4) Restarting causes all hard drives to power off and takes time to reboot due to delay with hard drive powering on..
those are at least the bugs i get.......
testing bios BIOS14.A02 1,5v vcore - 1.95v mch - 1,45v vfsb - 2.20v mem,1066strap , only one stick of EXTREEM, could go higher with my old bios this is not a good bios i think, and cpu-z doesn follow at all it's crystalcpuid that is rhe right one...
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/3958/446x9ot0.th.jpg
http://media5.filewind.com/g.php?filepath=2659
Quote:
Originally Posted by chefnr1
chefnr1, I just did the vfsb mod and the booster. I just have a question, is your 1.45v vfsb actual or is that 1.45 in guru?
i'm not chefnr1 but i can answer this....Quote:
Originally Posted by SilveradoJ442
uguru shows 0.02 volts higher than the actual. i've verified this by actually measuring the vfsb with a DMM.
in uguru the vfsb is called cpu vtt 1.2 i believe
Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
And can you tell what's the difference between the uguru Vcore and the real Vcore.
Thanks:)
Not sure about uguru but i do know that... what you set in bios is 0.02 higher than the actual at load i believe ( i can't remember if i measured it at load or idle). this i've also measured with a DMM.