Abit NF7-S Rev 1.2 IS OUT!

I emailed them at 9AM eastern and just got this reply about stock etc. I just hope I get the 2 I ordered at about 10AM (used a different email addy)

Dear customer,

We are very sorry that all our NF7-S v1.2 have been completed sold out.
As regard to Vdd, we did confirm it by ourselves on CMOS screen to read
it as only up to 1.7V. According to ABIT FAE, this should not really
matter that much than all the other voltages.

We will update our offer on our website once we get new supply coming
in.

Sorry for disappointing you by now.

good thing i picked 1 up yesterday

V.dimm? :(:(

vdimm remains at 2.9v

maybe latest northbridge rev "a3" scales up better than earlier ones, that's why ***maybe*** only 1.7v

IamaNoobiecheese ... they have all of the normal shipping options...

I got one of the last two that they had. It seems that they have a good relationship with Abit, so hopefully they will have more in soon.

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Originally posted by winguy
Its a pity because EPOX 8RDA+ Rev2.0 can go up to 2V

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When will the Rev2.0 be out?

wow what happened? the voltages were suppose to be good, and this happens.. oi, thats all i got to say.

Just got another email stating that the boards have shipped :banana:

Even if they're not all that they're still better than these 1.0's.

They're not going to be here until the 25th though :rolleyes:

mines will arrive on thursday...getting everything prepped for vmodding

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Originally posted by H¥percUbe
Hi boyz,
do you thik this new rev of NF7-S is better than A7N8X-Deluxe with Vcore,Vdimm & VDD mod?

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Yes...in my opinion. The Asus has a finicky BIOS and other quirks which make it a poor tweakers board. The Asus is better for just setting it up and leaving it alone.

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Originally posted by TerroH8er
When will the Rev2.0 be out?

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This rev 1.2 is what everyone has been waiting for. There will be no rev 2 unless Abit decides to change something else.

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Originally posted by Iolao
maybe latest northbridge rev "a3" scales up better than earlier ones, that's why ***maybe*** only 1.7v

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I have heard the same thing. Rumors seem to circulate around the issue of poor long term reliability with high chipset voltages. This is why Asus and other makers left off the adjustment altogether.

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Originally posted by taco
wow what happened? the voltages were suppose to be good, and this happens.. oi, thats all i got to say.

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Well the core voltage is just fine. The memory and chipset voltages are improved...but conservative....for a reason. Abit didn't waste time and money tweaking these options just to go half the distance. They went as far as their engineers felt they should go no doubt. If you check the forums, there are a good number of mobos which have died from too high of chipset voltage (modded boards). Although us extreme users understand that is the risk we take when we mod boards, most mobo makers do not want the much larger number of general enthusiasts killing there boards.

I say we wait and see what happens. I'm betting that Abit knows what they are doing here.

The voltages have also to do with the chip used, the tbred needs far lower voltage than xp's, so the one that doesn't know it can blow up his chip if he doesn't have proper cooling

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Originally posted by taco
wow what happened? the voltages were suppose to be good, and this happens.. oi, thats all i got to say.

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they did half the work !
vdimm 2.9 sucks arse to me , i only hope the vdimm mod will be the same as KX7

and VDD till 1.9v should be good !


i liked Abit mobos a lot but they aren't doing a good job from KD7 and on...

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Originally posted by spaceboy
i liked Abit mobos a lot but they aren't doing a good job from KD7 and on...

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I beg to differ on this point. The KD7 series is by far the best overclocking mobo Abit has produced. HD corruption issues be damned, the ease of multiplier manipulation and voltage choice selection alone make the KD7 series a winner.

If you don't beleive me check out who said what on THIS thread. Many die hard extreme overclockers appreciate the KD7 series quite a bit.

As far as the new 1.2 NF7...sometimes poeples comments just amaze me. Many of you are judging the board based on it's raw voltage specs alone without having seen one lick actual performance data. Yes....higher voltage choices are nice....but they are not the end all in performance. I beleive having the latest chipset steppings and having the mobo tuned optimally is far more important than sheer voltage numbers. That's the stuff we can do little about. If we want more voltages we can mod the board.

Man....the OC community has gotten so spoiled in the last 2 years it's frightening.

Ditto. Voltages are not everything. I have up to 2.3v on this KD7-E, but i dont need more than 1.9v to run this 2100+ at 2400mhz.

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Originally posted by mdzcpa

I beg to differ on this point. The KD7 series is by far the best overclocking mobo Abit has produced. HD corruption issues be damned, the ease of multiplier manipulation and voltage choice selection alone make the KD7 series a winner.

If you don't beleive me check out who said what on THIS thread. Many die hard extreme overclockers appreciate the KD7 series quite a bit.

As far as the new 1.2 NF7...sometimes poeples comments just amaze me. Many of you are judging the board based on it's raw voltage specs alone without having seen one lick actual performance data. Yes....higher voltage choices are nice....but they are not the end all in performance. I beleive having the latest chipset steppings and having the mobo tuned optimally is far more important than sheer voltage numbers. That's the stuff we can do little about. If we want more voltages we can mod the board.

Man....the OC community has gotten so spoiled in the last 2 years it's frightening.

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many looked at KD7 for the higher voltage..
but the first rev had a lot of bug...at that time both OPP and MrIcee confirmed this , infact Abit had to reingeneree the mobo!

I tryed 8k9a2 and KD7 and Epox is far better : the same CPU oc better un Epox and i had it to 240 fsb!


Talking 'bout NF7 : OPP demonstrated that 8RDA+ is as fast as NF7 or even faster
NF7 1.2 isn'out yet.. so by now we can only talk about voltages... and i think high vdimm is very useful with a mobo that we manage to run at ver very high fsb (hadn't 3.2 vdimm kd7 btw?)
Another point : the bios for 1.2 is the same for 1.1 or 1.0 so i don's see how could it be faster


KX7 was a great mobo so i modded it to have higher voltages

my.. 3 cent..

;)

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Originally posted by DuraN
Ditto. Voltages are not everything. I have up to 2.3v on this KD7-E, but i dont need more than 1.9v to run this 2100+ at 2400mhz.

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2.1v vcore and 3.1v vdimm would be way far better than 2.3 and 2.9 (2.85 real voltage?:rolleyes: )

c'mon guys!

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If you check the forums, there are a good number of mobos which have died from too high of chipset voltage (modded boards).

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Ok this is misleading. The only thing blowing up is the crap voltage regulators on the EPOS not the chipset. Yes, I admit Im spoiled and I expect decent voltage options. 2.9v on the memory is just too low and 1.7v on the chipset is disappointing. Oh well maybe someone else will want my money. I will need a new board for the R350 so I still have a while to wait before I retire my reliable 8k3a+. 2.15v cpu and 3v memory for over a year 200fsb no mods at all. Still under warranty. That is what I expect from any new boards also.

My opinion is that if you want voltages, then you mod your board. The mobo makers produce mobos for OEM's too, not enthiusiasts only. And if you view it from a different angle, the mobo makers dont HAVE to implement higher voltages, but they do it anyways to please the enthusiasts, and to be nice :) Thats something to think about, what would the situation be if the mobo makers did just what they had to do, nothing extra?

...we'll all know soon enough if the boys from Abit did their homework, my board will be here tomorrow and quite a few should have them today. This weekend should show some results. Hopefully all the time Abit's engineers spent at MIT and CalTec wasn't just with a beer bong. I have faith in them personally.

...I'm personally not looking to the supreme overclock, for me the voltages look fine ( would maybe have liked a bit more for the chipset, but Abit allready spoke to this and seem to think that 1.7 is sufficient ). The rest might need to break out the soldering irons, it's part of the game.

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Originally posted by DuraN
My opinion is that if you want voltages, then you mod your board. The mobo makers produce mobos for OEM's too, not enthiusiasts only. And if you view it from a different angle, the mobo makers dont HAVE to implement higher voltages, but they do it anyways to please the enthusiasts, and to be nice :) Thats something to think about, what would the situation be if the mobo makers did just what they had to do, nothing extra?

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it has been 5 month i'm waiting fof NF7 : i trust in Abit don't you think?
Abit has done some superb mobos out there and i love 'em

till KX7 they implement normal voltages and we modded the mobo,but the mod where easy

Now from KD7 they changed the road.. implementing High voltages so no mods at all!
Why make a mobo like NF7 with some high voltages like v.core and not a high vdimm ? :this is what i'm telling

if u do the job , do it 100%

Originally posted by spaceboy
many looked at KD7 for the higher voltage..
but the first rev had a lot of bug...at that time both OPP and MrIcee confirmed this , infact Abit had to reingeneree the mobo!

Umm...not sure what you are referring to. The KD7 has not undergone any major re engineering at all. The KD7-RAID mobo I used for my KD7 Motherboard Review at Liquid Ninjas which I completed last October was not plagued by any "bugs" at all and was an original version.

If you are referring to hard drive corruption issues at high fsb speeds, that indeed was an issue...one that I mentioned in my review. But to call HD corruption resulting from running the FSB far beyond it's specs a "bug" is very inaccurate.


I tryed 8k9a2 and KD7 and Epox is far better : the same CPU oc better un Epox and i had it to 240 fsb!

I suppose eeveryone judges which mobo is better than others in their own way. For me.. ..I go through a lot of equipment...literally dozens of boards evey few months. I do this for hardware review, for my own hobby, and for client builds. Therefore I identify some boards to better than others based on trends that I experience, or read about, based on many boards used. I do not base my opinion soley on a single experience with one board. Although the Epox is a good mobo too (based on sheer overclocking ability), there are a good number of other reasons not to like Epox too...such as quality and reliability issues which are often cited in the forums. In the end, I recommend boards which consistently perform well....not boards which can make great bansi runs but end up being a hit n miss proposition.


i think high vdimm is very useful with a mobo that we manage to run at ver very high fsb

Agreed....to a point. But as memory technology has moved along much faster than chipset support, this has become less of an issue. There is now already good memory out there than can run 217mhz at only 2.65v. Sticking 3.2v to the memory in order to achieve insane speeds (250mhz ?) that the memory controller cannot handle anyway is kinda pointless.


Another point : the bios for 1.2 is the same for 1.1 or 1.0 so i don's see how could it be faster

Who said it would be faster? Perhaps it isn't. However, it is quite possible that it might indeed be faster, or more stable, or more overclockable just due to the simple fact that Abit has spent more time working on the board design.


KX7 was a great mobo

I agree 100%. But based on numerous experiences with the KD7 boards, the KD7 series proved to be even better for me and my clients.

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Originally posted by spaceboy
2.1v vcore and 3.1v vdimm would be way far better than 2.3 and 2.9 (2.85 real voltage?:rolleyes: )

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This i find a bit confusing. How could a core voltage of 2.1v be better than the 2.3v offered on the NF7 v1.2?

As far as the Vdimm...yes...I would like higher choices. But i'm not going to condemn the board just yet for that fact. Again, there is already plenty of RAM which will run in the 200s just fine at 1.65v. So we'll have to see what happens here.

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Originally posted by spaceboy
Now from KD7 they changed the road.. implementing High voltages so no mods at all!
Why make a mobo like NF7 with some high voltages like v.core and not a high vdimm ? :this is what i'm telling

if u do the job , do it 100%

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Do you have any idea whatsoever engineering wise what it takes to do this? Do you really beleive that all they have to do to implement higher voltages is to just slap an extra part on and add a BIOS setting? C'mon...get real. If it was that easy they would do it. Let's have some common sense here.

To me it is rather obvious what is happening. The VIA chipset has remained essentially unchanged since the KT266. Sure there have been some southbridge features added, and some tweaks to the northbridge memory controller, but that's about it. By the time the KD7 came around, the chipset was very mature and implementation was well known.

Now comes NF2...a brand new chipset altogether. Applying what we know about voltages (and everything else) blindly to a new chipset is silly. We have no idea what engineering difficulties mobo makers are faced with, nor are we aware of what kind of restrictions Nvidia puts on them when they use the NF2.

Again, if Abit took the time to engineer the board a second time for improved overclockability, I doubt they left a bunch of performance just sitting untapped. They did what they did for a reason. Think about it.

Wow...what a post. I'm exhuasted:) Sorry for the rant. And I certainly mean no disrespect to anyone here. Just stating some opinion.

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Originally posted by Dissolved
http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_i...roducts_id=866

Credit: Kato :toast:

$130.00 And Free Shipping.

/me orders



Edit:
This board Currently has been updated to...
-Vcore: 2.3V
-Vdlmn: 2.9V
-AGP: 1.8V
-VDD: 1.7V
-Has HSF Holes
-Orange PCB

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AND my favourite of the new features? The orange PCB of course! Makes all the difference!

Craig

With improved cooling, those voltages look just fine.

Kinda odd, here we are 6 months ago §§§§§ing and whining to get a nice ocable version of the NF7-S. Abit never knew there would be demand for it, so they take a financial hit, re-engineer the board, and ship it out to us, FOR us.

Now some are whining again. Come on. :rolleyes: I'd hate to think that this board sells so poor that Abit decides not to release OC friendly versions from now on. :mad:

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Originally posted by mdzcpa
Again, if Abit took the time to engineer the board a second time for improved overclockability, I doubt they left a bunch of performance just sitting untapped. They did what they did for a reason. Think about it.

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I do hope so, I've been waiting over 2 months for this new revision.

I must confess to being a bit disappointed myself when I first saw the voltage options. I'm sure that as you say there's a reason for it, but 2.3vcore 2.9vdimm looks like a strange balance - on one hand they're encouraging you to quickly kill any tbred cpu (2.3v!!!), on the other the memory voltage seems a bit conservative. Strange.

Still, I'll almost certainly be getting this board, but I think I'll wait to see a couple of reviews first...:)