A heavy duty blend of aluminum, copper and graphite lubricants in a petroleum base.
is your stuff in a petroleum base? Mine is but it doesn't work at all.
copper
nickel
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A heavy duty blend of aluminum, copper and graphite lubricants in a petroleum base.
is your stuff in a petroleum base? Mine is but it doesn't work at all.
copper
nickel
Hmmm, plenty of auto parts stores here. I'm gonna take a crack at that stuff.
Thanx for the great info STEvil :)
-N-
napa branded silvery goo
Tonight I bought and tried the same "napa branded silvery goo" that seversphere mentions. Did (still doing!!!!) a trial on my hottest rig, one in serious need of better cooling.
1600+@1.7GHz, 1.750 Vcc, 200 FSB. running f@h/100% CPU. Cheap CoolerMaster CUD-725 HSF.
Average temps, 1 hour -
Thermal paste: 33c sys/46c CPU
NAPA/Permatex Item# 765-1674: 33c sys/54c CPU
Umhh, NG on the NAPA/Permatex...
errr.r......i would just stick with AS3 :)
Results are still great 8-)
Heres the stuff you want, its just an a newer version of the stuff I am running, as mine was old stock, hehe.
This is the stuff you are looking for:
(Go to www.permatex.com and search "Anti-Seize")
http://www.permatex.com/products/pro...lty+Lubricants
Specs:
http://www.permatex.com/products/ind...duct=Permatex, Anti-Seize Lubricant
http://www.permatex.com/products/ind...duct=Permatex, Copper Anti-Seize Lubricant
http://www.permatex.com/products/ind...duct=Permatex, Nickel Anti-Seize Lubricant
The copper and the nickel ones are the ones to keep your eyes on 8-)
EDIT
This post took a while to write cause I am at a lan party right now... we have been having some... contests... I guess 8-)
Contest 1
- First person to finish 2L of warm fizzy Diet Rootbeer wins. (10ppl)
- I got 3rd
Prizes - a couple of girly posters for 1st and 2nd 8-)
Contest 2
- Eat a can of SAFEWAY SELECT dogfood. (6ppl)
- I got 3rd again 8-) I let the other guy win cause he was really trying and it wasnt hard for me at all.. tasted like cold gristly gravy, lol! 8-)
Prizes:
1st - Cold cathode, full case vinyl wrap(?) and an applique thingy
2nd/3rd - case vinyl wrap and an applique thingy
EDIT 2
Those links sure didnt work too well.
Make sure your heatsink is extremely flat, I noticed a 3deg C temp drop just by lapping my heatsink... but this was also before I tried out the anti-seize compound, too..
EDIT 3
Never realized there was a second page to this thread, lol 8-)
That looks like the correct stuff, sever, but its going ot be trial and error with the likely 100s of different types out there by every manufacturer. The stuff I got could have been a fluke, too 8-)
EDIT 4
Oh, its in the air cooling forum.. no wonder I coudln't find it 8-) This works good, too, I guess, hehe 8-) No more editing now 8-)
Thanks for the update!
I'll be getting copper and nickel stuff to try soon.
The napa branded stuff is in a petroleum base and I had doubts about the oily look of the goo but had to try. I think your "old stock" is different somehow. The part number 133H makes me guess it's the nickel stuff but the only thing that makes me wonder is the temp rating of 870 C on your bottle as that would be very low for the nickel stuff - even if it is old nickel stuff that could be discontinued as the only part number that shows up now is 133K. All the 870 C rated stuff is supposedly exactly like the napa stuff (petroleum based). Anyways I'll see what else I can find out and test. :)
nickel pdf
regular pdf
I think its nickle based, but could always be wrong 8-)
EDIT
I've had 2 cokes, misc cookies, chips, etc and the taste of the dog food is still in my mouth..... man that experience is gonna stick with me for life I think 8-)
Was what you tried any of the products here?Quote:
Originally posted by sjohnson
Umhh, NG on the NAPA/Permatex...
http://www.permatex.com/products/pro...lty+Lubricants
if so, which one?
Maybe this is why it was "old stock".. was cause it was too close to AS2/3? hehe 8-)
I had a talk with my friend who supplied me with the napa bottle and he said this was nickel stuff. So I can't go by any labels - I'm just gonna try everything. :D
Try getting samples maybe.. then you wont have to buy 14 different types, heh.
my first sample request is to you! PLEASE!!! :D
The local NAPA didn't have any copper anti-seize, so I bought this one: http://www.permatex.com/products/pro...&item_no=81464Quote:
Originally posted by BrainStorm
Was what you tried any of the products here?
http://www.permatex.com/products/pro...lty+Lubricants
if so, which one?
Plenty of uses for it outside of cooling my PC's so it wasn't a total waste anyway :)
Where do I send it? Hope i've got some cash sitting around... been broke lately 8-/
Seversphere wants more info.. so heres more! 8-)
Place of purchase: Magrath Trading Co. (Magrath, Alberta, Canada)
Item code:19-80558-3 (?)
Bar code: 68161 80558
Code on top of the bottle (dunno what its for): 1fk15120
And thats about all I can find with closer inspection..
Oh, and an update!
With the original application still, I am currently:
2253mhz 2.0v for 57c load average.. bet it might drop a degree if I cleaned the dust out of my case.. hehe.
I was just wondering if any probs have shown them selves yet.
It dries out, but takes forever to do so.
Stick with normal stuff, but i've got another thing i'm working with for now.. getting it a little more thoroughly tested this time, hehe.
Moved thread to OVERCLOCKING with a redirect :D
hehe 8-)
Since Loctite is also in the business of making thermal interface materials, perhaps there is a good reason, STEvil, why they didn't adapt this particular compound for use as a TIM.Quote:
Originally posted by BrainStorm
Permatex®. A highly refined blend of aluminum, copper, and graphite lubricants... Suggested applications: For easy removal of spark plugs and cylinder head and exhaust head bolts. Lubricates sliding caliper disc brakes... They forgot to mention cooling processors. ;)
Let me explain something. Almost any liquid, paste, cream, grease or whatever (yes, even peanut butter and jelly) can act as a thermal interface material - and maybe do a halfway decent job for some period of time. Any material that effectively eliminates "Air" from the thermal junction, fills in the macro / micro imperfections on the mating surfaces and allows for optimal contact of the mating surfaces will work. The questions are, how long will they be effective as an air gap, and how efficiently do they promote heat transfer from the "hot" to the "cold" surface?
Per the re-quote excerpt above, Permatex Anti-seize contains aluminum, copper and graphite among other things. Are these thermally conductive materials? Sure they are. Are the particle sizes optimized for use as a thermal compound? Most likely not. Are any of these materials electrically conductive? Yes, all of them are.
If Permatex Anti-seize Compound works for you and you're happy with it, then you should continue using it. I experimented with it some time ago and wasn't too impressed with it, but, heh, whatever trips your trigger. Personally speaking, I think that are better TIMs out there than Anti-seize ;)
There definately are (i'm using something right now).
The problem, however, is that this "anti-seize" really isnt anti-seize. It dried up.
"If at first you don't succeed, then try, try again" - and I'm sure you will. Have fun, but get some sleep will you?! ;)
Sleep? Hugh!?:D
Hell no, I would have missed the prize give aways and a person eating dog food for $200 CDN worht of stuff and cash, lol.
ooh.. BF'42 tourney is starting now!