damn cheapQuote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
edit lmfao thats why: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1830.html
damn cheapQuote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
edit lmfao thats why: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1830.html
Ummm, Kunaak, with all due respect, that's an oem card.
The actual X1800XT's still run at $349+($329 will soon be the MSRP), for just the 256mb model... The 512mb model is to be discontinued.
ATi is setting the X1800XL as the competitor for the 7900GT AFAIK.
if this was the 512 x1800 i woulda already bought since it isnt, i will be uppgrading to a 7900GT and SLI in the future.
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Originally Posted by Red.Sky
lol
well i didn't expect much. But you can find the PNY 7900GT for 290$ on Monarch, but spend the 10$ more and get the XFX instead :) or an eVGA XXX!
lol Overklokk hit 50K with single 1800 (512MB though) and you say no OC :D
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8878621
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16814102629R
thats what I mean, if you look around, you can find X1800XT's for cheap, with the 512 megs of ram.
I've seen them as low as $300 a few times at newegg.
Funny that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DelaMaris
Iam running 780/820 stock volts on air cooling, and i can bench at 860/900.:)
fwiw - CompUSA had the ATI X1800XT 512 for $299 last week.
The 256MB X1800 XT has been availible over here for a while. Everyone seemed to be buying one. Great card for the price. Can get a Sapphire Retail 256MB X1800 XT for £217 atm.
For £50 extra, around the £260 you can get a Retail Powercolour 512MB X1800 XT, which is a bargin for the card you get... the leader in its price range over here. Preferred to the 7900 GT.
Wouldnt it be abit risky, buying a refurb'd card though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
You had any experience with refurb'd cards?
If SM4.0 was not due out later this year and if Crysis was not on the horizon I would be tempted in upgrading my 6800GS SLi to 7900GT SLi or perhaps even just a single high end card from Ati or nvidia.. however I now have the decision to make on whether I upgrade now and get good use for 6 months or not.
80nm will be even cheaper, but then it's even closer to the new generation cards in Q3/Q4
Regards
Andy
Im with Andy on this one. Not the greatest time to upgrade if you plan to keep your vid card for any lenght of time.
Even the 256MB version can hit 10k on air, the extra memory in the 512MB cards only accounts for 3 to 4% difference in performance in most cases, for 25% less price.
I agree too....but only if Andy promises to start breaking WRs with the dx10 cards :pQuote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
Perkam
I got an X1800XT 256mb for £230, it's a fantastic card! Down to pure 3dmark scores, im currently scoring 11,200 easily in 05, and i think it takes a lot of trying to get a 7900gt to get that high.
7900gt doesn't clock that well either, on the core at least. Core only reaches 550-680mhz max, with very good cooling, and looks like a good score is about 11,200 with fairly high clocks of 680/1840.
I can't see drivers helping the 7900gt further either...it is basically a 7800gtx, which has already been fully exploited. So i doubt we'll be seeing 12k on the 7900gt without supercooling.
wow, nice deal.
Are the 256mb cards equipped with 1.1NS ram like their bigger brothers?
There ya go gentlemen, a member has professed that this card can do 11,200 when tweaked right ;)
Need I say more :rolleyes: Plus, the X1800XT 256MB will run faster when oced in most cases than the 7900GT 256MB...which also is 256MB :rolleyes:Quote:
I got an X1800XT 256mb for £230, it's a fantastic card! Down to pure 3dmark scores, im currently scoring 11,200 easily in 05, and i think it takes a lot of trying to get a 7900gt to get that high.
Perkam
Sure just make sure if your gonna run 7900gtOC speeds you load the xtpe bios up for the x1800xt.........that should even it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
A Refurbished OEM card?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
Refurbed doesn't really count, a benchmark should be a NEW nVidia card versus a NEW ATi card that both cost the exact same amount.
Say a buyer has 300$ and wants a card... the benchmark should answer that question. The most for the money, no side variables.
Why are you trying to even it out? It isnt a good benchmark when you buy a 300$ card, buy another 300$ card, intend to go head to head, but then decide that ATi needs some help and flash a new bios :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
If the cards cost the same amount it's a fair test. And then you can do a benchmark where you overclock both cards to the max on the reference cooler and test that. Stock speeds for two competing 300$ cards, and OCed speeds for two 300$ cards.
Why are you comparing the X1800XT 512MB to the 7900GT 256MB?
Flashing bios costs nothing and needs very little knowledge. Is it fair, for example, to compare x800GTO2 to say 6800 or GS? If we can unlock something or flash bios to better for free, then imo it is perfectly fine. If somebody (wanted to say noobs but not meaning anyone in particular :)) doesn't know how to do it that is their problem.
:toast:
Okay....I'll make a 7900GT BIOS that happens to be at the 80th percentile of their overclocks and we can try that :rolleyes:
BIOS flashing doesn't count for direct stock v stock comparos....only what you can buy from a retailer (which means a refurb OEM does count).
On top of that, screw stock speeds....get a sample of 3-5 of each and test them at their max clocks (with stipulations for system equality, of course) and then again on various cooling. Yeah, it costs money but it's the fastest way to end this silly debate.
If no one wants to shell out the 2-3 grand (likely, heh) then we'll have to wait and see for a conclusion. All I know is that my money is going towards a 7900GT....I'd take it over an X1800XT512 any day (but for reasons that aren't of import to this thread as I don't doubt the X1800XT512 being faster), and in the end all these companies are truly after are the dollars (and ATi ain't gonna be making a whole lot with the X1800XT at $300, that's for sure).
Wrong, at least as far as I can tell. x1800s seem to like cooling. 7800s were ALL voltage really. Not sure if the smaller die 7900 likes cooling more but the real difference between GT and GTX clocks is stock voltage...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
They both like cooling....just the X1800XT's stock cooler is so much superior and the 7900GT responds very well to volts, just the stock cooler can't handle it ;)