Oh yeah, no visible problems (like the trace cut by the audio connectors) tells the story... The A00 had no visible problems after the first batch... I'd guess I'll see you back here sometime soon... :) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by thegoatman
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Oh yeah, no visible problems (like the trace cut by the audio connectors) tells the story... The A00 had no visible problems after the first batch... I'd guess I'll see you back here sometime soon... :) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by thegoatman
Well then maybe someone besides OPB should test the Diamond Plus!Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
I meant the Neo4 Plat is a helluva board ;).
I'm sure the Diamond Plus is too. 4.1v vDimm :slobber:.
You make "VERY high HTT" sound like it could rival a DFI... 430 htt stable here :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
NICE. What nF4 voltage? :)
Yeah it is a good board, I've never run HTT higher than 340 with it although I've never tried taking it higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
The board does have a ton of options, easy to setup, gets along well with any memory I've ever tried in it, and will take any cpu I have to it's know max with little effort... Additionally it's unbelievably stable and never misbehaves...
I'm wanting to test the 580's but the options aren't looking very good right now. If that doesn't change in the next few weeks I'll take the Diamond Plus for a test drive...
Is that 10x or 9x?Quote:
Originally Posted by FragTek
I can do high HTT on mine too but who really cares if it's not at least a 9x. How many guys do you know that run 7x430? Or worse yet I've seen guys show ss of 400+x4 or 5. That's real world stuff.
Funny stuff..... :p: :p:
How do find out whar model you have? AB0 or A00
Type in ADO in search and hit enter. Here's the link this time.http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&highlight=adoQuote:
Originally Posted by joek71
Well how long does it generally take for boards to crap out. I have had mine for some months now so maybe I am home free :).
Got the nforce 4 one not the ATI crossfire version I have seen less issues with that expert... Still nervous though but having it running 24/7 is it really safer then shutting them down at night?
I shut mine down. AFAIK, the problems don't start until you up the vcore.
+.2v :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
1.7v, nice. My board can do ~360Htt @ 1.7v. Never had the bawls to go higher, voltage wise. Don't want toasty nF4 for breakfast ;).
well i just sold my expert today after my rma came in.same situation shut down and hit the switch and nothing.ran fine for 4 weeks.i wresled with trying a dfi board for so long and pcdoc1 always had good things to say about them.he used to flame me a little bit cause i was down on dfi having so many problems.i finally decided to get the expert hoping it would be better than the previous models.better compatability,better power regulation etc.i just put my asus back together again and im up and running.i was so mad when the expert took out my cpu.dfi dosent seem like there going to help me out with it.settings were all stock or close to it.i havent tryed to o/clock yet.it took me 4 days to get it to boot into windows.i was just happy to get it stable.i had to buy another set of ram to get it to boot.as far as i can tell the ram survived.i sold the expert for 150.00 to a computer tech in my neighborhood and he is aware of what happened.he reads the forums too.he has a 3000 to set it up with.i have a feeling that my dfi days are over.ill stick with what has worked for me in the past.asus,abit,gigabyte.ive never had a board take out a cpu before,with stock voltages no doubt.i feel sorry for pcdoc,i feel your pain.my investment isnt as big as yours but its alot too me.so now im back to a new 3200 venice and my corsair xms ram and the system runs great.at least i know it wont kill all my hardware.my thoughts were always these dfi boards sure have alot of problems but i gave in to try one and i guess i picked the wrong one.should have gone with the ultra d,almost did but thought the expert would be newer and better.live and learn.got to start saving for am2 at the end of the year.had to buy another 3200 with the money from the expert as i was out of computer money.dfi sucks and you know why i feel this way.pcdoc i hope it all works out for you.if you get dfi to replace your cpu let us know.id have a better opinion of them if they would own up to the fact that they put out a problem board,but they wont do that.
Sorry you had a problem with the expert, I’m feeling guilty now that I defended these guys and based on that you stepped out there and got burned… Bummer. :mad: :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by wesleys_dad
I wouldn’t even attempt to get DFI to help with the cost of a smoked cpu, they’re in denial. They have yet to step up to plate since these boards were released and acknowledge that there has ever been a single problem with this board. That’s their decision and it fine with me. Additionally their arrogance defies reason, any problem someone experiences with their product gets tagged as user error or ignorance. If you go to their support site, DFI-Street, it’s run with the very same arrogant fricking attitude. Well that’s fine too. I’ve been a member here for three years, I started building in 1989 and have made my living in Tech ever since. I’ve built 1000’s of boxes and never in that 17 years have I lost a cpu until I met DFI and the expert. People vote with their money and I like you won’t ever give them another 50 cents. Oh yeah, one more lesson learned, if you’re gonna use a DFI board, be certain to purchase a retail boxed cpu so you can turn to AMD when everything goes to hell.
There’s a ton of first class knowledgeable people here that have forgot more than I know and believe in the DFI product. So I’m not willing or interested in taking on the community. I would argue though that Xtreme doesn’t mean blowing :banana::banana::banana::banana: up!
Regards-
well i talked to dfi today on compensation for my 3200 that the expert board took out.their attitude sucks,must have benn something i did setting up voltages is their attitude.according to them there is no problem with this board doing this.i told them to read the forums and the reply was there was alot of people that dont know how to set up dfi boards correctly.im an A+ certified tech,make my living building computers and how could this happen on auto settings.had to be user error.BS user error.
you know if they would own up to the fact and give some kind of compensation,even like a future board or something id think alot more of them.as of now as long as i live i will never buy another dfi product and as far as word of mouth goes its gonna be bad news from me.no customer of mine will have a dfi board in his rig.good riddance to a bullsh** company.i really hope they go out of business,so i can dance on there grave.
hello asus,msi,gigabyte,abit,biostar.never been screwed by these companies,always replaced bad hardware no questions asked.if its bad they replace it,like it should be with a reputable company.dfi is not in that league.my codolances to all who have lost hardware to this board not due to incorrect settings.pcdoc1 has lost a boatload of money due to these people putting out an inferior product as well as alot of other people.pcdoc1 knows what he is doing for gods sake and some compensation is owed to him from this incompetent company.nuff said.
dfi i dance on your grave.............
Was this a Rev AB0?
Considering selling my Expert for an Ultra-D now:cool:
lol thunderstruck you were gonna buy mine. maybe I should take a bad omen before my luck runs out? I'm sorry but I feel I just gotta test this board before I toss it... I'll do some more research over the next week. If I find out anything subsantial, I'll post it. (I'm gonna post a question about the temp sensor, that has nothing to do wtih this)
im sure it was an aa0,the replacement was an ab0 which i sold rite away,never even fired it up,no dfi board will ever have any of my hardware in it.from what i know about the replacement board it wont boot as yet,he is still playing with ram.i may go over this weekend and see if i can get it to boot for my friend.he has 3 different types of ram he is playing with.these boards have me gunshy at the moment.its hard to believe that dfi put out such an unstable board and their attitude is its never our problem,has to be your setup.yea rite everything on auto defaults and ram at 2.8 and the cpu french fried.running fine for 4 weeks and pop on a fire up.never over clocked one bit.i was just happy to get it stable enough to load windows.then start reading about settings and such.i was weeks from o/clocking any thing and then just mild o/clocks.
i was really looking foreward to enjoying this board for a year or so and had to believe it would be better than the former generation but oscar missed the boat on this board.i can honestly say as im 53 yrs old that i will never again but any dfi product.i build computers for a living and work part time in a large computer store here in orlando and they have now refused to sell any dfi products.we used to sell them on request and have had more problems with them than any other brand.the asus and msi seem to give us the best results.ive had good luck with the 4 systems ive built with the msi diamond plus.very stable and easy to set up.ram compatability is good.ive used corsair ,super talent and pqi.all have worked fine.its easy to get that board to 300htt.the asus a8n 32sli has been good to.no failures so far.my next board will be one of those.i like the layout of the msi,but the asus is a fine board also.when i do a build for a customer within my own company i generally use asus and the failure rate is next to none.thats hard to beat.ive had a few msi boards go down but not enough to see a pattern.ive posted some of the clips from the forums about the dfi board failures and it makes people take notice.the expert is for sure without a doubt a defective board and dfi will never admit it.they are a spineless no care about their customer company.they have seen the last penny from me and any body that i can influence as not to buy dfi.a company like this should be starved out of business.call them with a problem and see their arrogant attitude.its not our problem its your.adios dfi..........
IMHO, DFI did have an answer and a fix for the Expert....it's called the Venus.
Make no mistake about it... no way in hell DFI would ever disclosed or admit what went wrong with the Expert, if those issue can be easily overcome and fix with new bios, they would of done it already. For those who don't have issues with the Expert, consider yourself very lucky and let's hope everything still hold true in couple months down the road. So far my Venus is problem free and by far this is the BEST s939 board I've ever get my hands on, even if it end up killing something (or killed everything) in couple months, then so be it! This is the last AMD board I would ever purchase, just take a look around.... Intel users rarely killed their cpu or ram, atleast not as often as us AMD owner!! Not trying to knock on AMD but it looks like all s939 boards are inferior one way or another, either we choose to live with it, or do something about it. I know one thing for certain, when Conroe roll out in Q3 I'll be the first to convert...even if it perform on par with the upcoming AM2, I want my shiit to last instead of blowing up every other months!!! :lol: