Improved AMD WR for modPI1.4 1M & 32M

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01-22-2006, 02:36 PM
G H Z

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan

We have to dig out by ourselves when someone gives you some hints or pictures. Is't this a normal practice at any other OC world:confused:

It is, you have been very generous answering questions :)

Its just, I think questions will always be asked.
01-22-2006, 02:44 PM
fredyama

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexio

Very good :clap:

How much coldness did it like?

Thanks:toast:

Not sure about the exact temp as am reading from the temp probe taped at the buffer area (say about 3mm up form the bottom surface) of the pot.
The first bench in a couple weeks ago was around -90C, about -103C at this time after a bit of CPU burn-in provided that the said probe was set consistantly and other condition such as amount of HS grease applied was the same.
At lower than -105C, no POST at all:(
Seems the M/B does not indicate CPU temp well, so please take them as reference only.
01-22-2006, 02:48 PM
s7e9h3n

I think I've figured out their secret :D :

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan

Chipset Cooling:Reapplied new grease on Stock HSF

Gotta try that some time :toast:

But seriously, what's the deal with running a RP of 6.0? Is it truly faster than say 3.0? Simply amazing work btw.....
01-22-2006, 03:12 PM
fredyama

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

I think I've figured out their secret :D :

Gotta try that some time :toast:

But seriously, what's the deal with running a RP of 6.0? Is it truly faster than say 3.0? Simply amazing work btw.....

Thanks:toast:

Hahaha you are right on too:toast:

Seriously, I am not sure either.
RP 3.5 setting was mentioned that why I asked a question.
01-22-2006, 03:19 PM
fredyama

Quote:

Originally Posted by HydroX

and what is "Vdimm clip mod(Bios 09/14/05)" ? Can you show to us ?

and very very nice result as always, guys :)

Thanks:toast:
Oops just about missed your question.
Can we talk about voiding warranty things here in XS?
01-22-2006, 03:20 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan

Thanks:toast:

Hahaha you are right on too:toast:

Seriously, I am not sure either.
RP 3.5 setting was mentioned that why I asked a question.

Here are my best 8m settings on a DFI Expert:
http://img493.imageshack.us/img493/6310/14x2658m1ip.jpg

And for 32m:
http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/7...x26232m3jw.jpg

Hope this can be helpful for you :toast:
01-22-2006, 03:24 PM
Leghorn

great result fredyama, congratulation :toast:
01-22-2006, 03:48 PM
fredyama

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Here are my best 8m settings on a DFI Expert:

And for 32m:

Hope this can be helpful for you :toast:

Thanks for your helpful setting details:toast:
Very good time:)

So still you cannot select Trtw to 1 unless disabling Dynamic Counter with this Expert M/B?
My Expert M/B is still in Japan so cannot test it as am living abroad atm.
01-22-2006, 03:56 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan

Thanks for your helpful setting details:toast:
Very good time:)

So still you cannot select Trtw to 1 unless disabling Dynamic Counter with this Expert M/B?
My Expert M/B is still in Japan so cannot test it as am living abroad atm.

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/7909/14x2654dg.jpg

;)
01-22-2006, 04:15 PM
Benny Lodewijk

Nice result Fred !!! :toast:
01-22-2006, 04:20 PM
fredyama

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/7909/14x2654dg.jpg

;)

Thanks a lot s7e9h3n for your clarification;)
Got to try Bukkake with it:D
01-22-2006, 04:21 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan

Thanks a lot s7e9h3n for your clarification;)
Got to try Bukkake with it:D

No prob...good luck....and can't wait to see the NEW WR times ;)
01-22-2006, 11:37 PM
HydroX

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan

Thanks:toast:
Oops just about missed your question.
Can we talk about voiding warranty things here in XS?

I think no problem... because most of vmod are voiding warranty, right? ;)

so...tell us what is "vdimm clip mod", please :p:

CMIIW guys :)
01-23-2006, 04:04 AM
Waus-mod

Hehehe why do i see kingpin running to his ln2 supplier :P

Man awesome Team japan!
01-23-2006, 06:51 AM
M.Beier

Im not 100% positive, but usualy I gain around 0.0xx sec from changing preamble to lowest setting (sometimes 0.1xx - in case DRAM respons: aint fastest in bios)..

Also, this is my own theory.. - 0 clk gives best result in 1M, in SiS / 3Dbenchies etc. 16 / 32 is better...

As far as 100mhz 1.95 goes, Im surtain 15.6 200mhz is faster, but the thing is, somehow its harder on the chipset, thereby v-chipset might has to be increased by 0.2v..
I dont know the reason for this, and I havnt gotten any featback on this from G.skill, but I bet OPB knows the answer :)

EDIT: Im in tears, argh... Just got some insulation tape, last thing to get my waterchiller running @ -28 deg C, and then... - Leak in res :S - DAMNIT, more work before it'll be up'n running, properly get my tube before friday though.
01-23-2006, 08:47 AM
FlyingHamster

Congrats PRTeamJapan! That is one hell of a cpu :toast:

Question though, why do u guys call it "Bukkake(LN2 benching)"?? Bukakke as far as I know is something else... pretty nasty if u ask me :rolleyes:
01-23-2006, 10:52 AM
Kaffebord

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingHamster

Congrats PRTeamJapan! That is one hell of a cpu :toast:

Question though, why do u guys call it "Bukkake(LN2 benching)"?? Bukakke as far as I know is something else... pretty nasty if u ask me :rolleyes:

I have been thinking at the same thing... Pretty weird name for a ln2 tube. Found something. "Bukkake is the noun form of the Japanese verb bukkakeru (打っ掛ける, to dash [water]), and means simply "splash" or "dash." " Maby it's called bukkake after the spalshing of ln2 into the tube.

Great scores as always team japan. I admire your skills.
01-23-2006, 12:07 PM
afireinside

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

Hehehe why do i see kingpin running to his ln2 supplier :P

Man awesome Team japan!

You mean his garage? :D

Very nice work! 32m on ln2 with cold bug takes some major skill and effort :toast:
01-23-2006, 12:34 PM
fredyama

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.Beier

Im not 100% positive, but usualy I gain around 0.0xx sec from changing preamble to lowest setting (sometimes 0.1xx - in case DRAM respons: aint fastest in bios)..

Also, this is my own theory.. - 0 clk gives best result in 1M, in SiS / 3Dbenchies etc. 16 / 32 is better...

As far as 100mhz 1.95 goes, Im surtain 15.6 200mhz is faster, but the thing is, somehow its harder on the chipset, thereby v-chipset might has to be increased by 0.2v..
I dont know the reason for this, and I havnt gotten any featback on this from G.skill, but I bet OPB knows the answer :)

EDIT: Im in tears, argh... Just got some insulation tape, last thing to get my waterchiller running @ -28 deg C, and then... - Leak in res :S - DAMNIT, more work before it'll be up'n running, properly get my tube before friday though.

Thank you so much for your valuable inf:toast:
I will definately try and find out.

Sorry to hear the Leak:(
Hope you can come back to OC life soon:)
01-23-2006, 12:50 PM
fredyama

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingHamster

Congrats PRTeamJapan! That is one hell of a cpu :toast:
Question though, why do u guys call it "Bukkake(LN2 benching)"?? Bukakke as far as I know is something else... pretty nasty if u ask me :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaffebord

I have been thinking at the same thing... Pretty weird name for a ln2 tube. Found something. "Bukkake is the noun form of the Japanese verb bukkakeru (打っ掛ける, to dash [water]), and means simply "splash" or "dash." " Maby it's called bukkake after the spalshing of ln2 into the tube.

Great scores as always team japan. I admire your skills.

Thanks guys:toast:

@Kaffebord
Your Japanese is far better than me-- very well explained.
Yes, this is a OC term for splashing LN2 into the pot-- but only apply to Intel atm unfortunately. For AMD term is more like Tenteki = an intravenous drip.

@FlyingHamster
You must be googled to search the word-- just found out its meaning what have never known to me-- yup such a dirty meaning. Thank you for teching me Japanese:D
01-23-2006, 01:11 PM
guess2098

very very very * 100^100 good result!!!
love to see 3.9G 32M in future

once~~~
very very good jpb ^^
01-23-2006, 01:11 PM
fredyama

Quote:

Originally Posted by afireinside

You mean his garage? :D

Very nice work! 32m on ln2 with cold bug takes some major skill and effort :toast:

Thanks:toast:

It is surely a painful time during benching especially for a heavy smoker like me-- but smoking is good for checking the room air status, at least in my term...
Besides have always a handy fire extinguisher:D

Good luck with your DI run:)
01-23-2006, 01:19 PM
fredyama

Quote:

Originally Posted by guess2098

very very very * 100^100 good result!!!
love to see 3.9G 32M in future

once~~~
very very good jpb ^^

Thank you guess2098:toast:

I guess time to register at Holicho's ranking...

Good luck with your FX-60:)
01-23-2006, 01:49 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.Beier

Im not 100% positive, but usualy I gain around 0.0xx sec from changing preamble to lowest setting (sometimes 0.1xx - in case DRAM respons: aint fastest in bios)..

Also, this is my own theory.. - 0 clk gives best result in 1M, in SiS / 3Dbenchies etc. 16 / 32 is better...

As far as 100mhz 1.95 goes, Im surtain 15.6 200mhz is faster, but the thing is, somehow its harder on the chipset, thereby v-chipset might has to be increased by 0.2v..
I dont know the reason for this, and I havnt gotten any featback on this from G.skill, but I bet OPB knows the answer :)

EDIT: Im in tears, argh... Just got some insulation tape, last thing to get my waterchiller running @ -28 deg C, and then... - Leak in res :S - DAMNIT, more work before it'll be up'n running, properly get my tube before friday though.

It all depends on which board you use ;)
On the ultra-d, more emphasis is placed on the MAL as oppoed to the RP. Lowering the MAL on those boards has more affect than lowering RP.. On the Expert, the ability to RUN LOWLOW RP's gives it a large advantage over the Ultra-D's.
The reason why ICL16 may run faster for the longer benches is due to it's stability. In Spi, the more stable you are = the faster the time. It's kind of a funny thing, but it's true. Sometimes you'll have to slack your timings in order to even finish the bench, but the results turn out better than if your timings were on the edge of failing. Just take a look at the FORMER ;) WR 32m run....Formyfaith ran a TRFC of 14. He even says that @ that speed, a TRFC12 will give him worse results.
TBH, the best tref to use may just be 166, 1.95u or even 166, 15.6u. That matches your timings to your actual memory refresh rate. It's possible to use 200, 15.6u and it be faster since your memory is refreshing less often than normal.....
Trust me, I talk to OPB quite often and he's confirmed this info. A new-found setting to try now is TRAS3 as it seems to be the lowest recognizable setting for your memory.....;)
01-23-2006, 02:31 PM
fredyama

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

It all depends on which board you use ;)
In Spi, the more stable you are = the faster the time. It's kind of a funny thing, but it's true.

:clap: :clap: :clap:
Yup, all in there:toast:

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