I totally agree with you and also I don't care about the package either. I'd purchase a board something like the one above even if it is wrapped with used toilet papers.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjohns97
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I totally agree with you and also I don't care about the package either. I'd purchase a board something like the one above even if it is wrapped with used toilet papers.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjohns97
which MSI board are you guys referring to? got a link? I must be living under a rock.Quote:
Originally Posted by jetjaguar
The most luxury NVIDIA SLI 16X motherboard- MSI K8N Diamond first lookQuote:
Originally Posted by LuckMan212
^^^^ But the bios is put together by a bunch of monkeys.. :(
hey, atleast the box makes a nice mobo stand.. thast what I use motheboard boxes for. I could relaly use a new strong one as this K8N Neo2 box isnt holding up too well after a year.
That box looks scary in some way....
-k0nsl
The box looks classy for sure but who needs it? Maybe for a stand:)
I really wonder what it would bring in performance over the Expert and will there be a design change on the mb?
Awfully spacy mobo coffin ...errr I mean mobo box.
Wonder if DFI would bundle some cute little caskets... correction BOXES for those possibly resulting late RAM, CPU & GPU...
;)
Hmmmm...I'm not impressed either.
As for some of the suggested improvements mentioned above, the current Expert already addresses a few of them...such as having 2 usable PCI slots when both PCI-E slots are filled, and removing any interference between the chipset fan and a video card. The current Expert handles that nicely.
16 x 16 is a waste time and energy. By the time any video card/cpu combinations can take advantage of 16 x16, NF5 will be out anyways.
As for chipset and PWM temps....who cares. The temps seen on current boards rarely effect overclocking anyways. Besides, I always mod these areas myself.
On the up side, I like the idea of solid caps and better hardware in general. I'm just not sure we'll see any improvement in overclocks. Right now the limiting factor is the CPU. 50,000 mhz HTT doesn't do squat.
I'm not sure where DFI is going with this one:rolleyes:
My guess would be to the bank.Quote:
Originally Posted by mdzcpa
I'm not so sure on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsuehpsyde
Who is the target buyer? Certainly not the hardcore clocker who couldn't care less about a fancy box. And certainly not the budget conscious clocker who doesn't want to pay for fancy packaging.
Limited run products are good ideas if they promote company image, offer halo effect to other products, or step into new markets. Unfortunately, this ltd expert does none of these things.
Nope...this is a limited run waste of time IMO. Of course, more info could come out that changes this....but I doubt it.
too much fluff ditch the box and cables for some better tech.
True enough, and if they ditched the nasty fluorescent orange and yellow crud all over the place it would be perfect. Black board with white slots would look sweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjohns97
I want to see how it performs... then I will decide :)
Anybody have a pic of the board?
don't need special package, oem packaging is fine. when i buy a new board i open box plug board into existing hardware, why do i want to change every single cable and sticker and anything else. i will never use a front i/o panel box thing and resent paying for it, i resent paying for 15 different cables when every board i've bought in the last 4 years had the same, i have boxes and boxes packed with useless crap like that. i don't need extra pci brackets for usb ports, hell i don't need 1 pci slot let alone 3.
give me a board, with great power, 4 sata ports(maybe 8, use sil image sata 2 chip as its clearly faster than nf4's piss poor hdd performance), put the chipset somewhere out of the way, or design a heatsink that extends away from gfx slots and then has a lotta fin surface area. crappy crappy crappy chipset sinks with bugger all surface area and a high speed fan are useless. put cooling wheres its needed.
i will happily pay the extra $5 for better caps, $5 for better heatsinks and $5 extra to not skimp on other crap, i DO NOT EVER want to pay the $0.50 for 2 extra usb brackets, the $1.00 for 3 rounded ide cables, the $2 for a pretty box with a cartoon semi clad girl on a hologram effect box and the other random increases in cost for stuff no one, i really mean no one uses at all.
I hear ya 100%
I have noticed that the IDE performance on Nforce boards ( ALL of them afaik) sux also.
Maybe if Wu teams up with his old buddies at Abit (you know some of those soon to be jobless engineers), IC7 like design and quality would show up at DFI. A genius writing bios and design and monkies engineered the board. No wonder it has problems. Great opportunity for DFI to snap up some of those real engineers at Abit so instead of making coffin jokes...urrr comments about the box, we can make some trophy case...comments.
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Originally Posted by drunkenmaster
Someone give this guy a job. Well said. :clap:
I doubt it will ever happen though at least its taking some of the focus off all the h/ware deaths associated with the Expert :rolleyes:
Am I being too cynical ??????, I dont think so :stick:
Amen! that was an excellent post by Drunkenmaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Oh, and why do I sense us paying a $50 premium on this for the fancy box? I want to pay for HARDWARE, not a leather lunchbox.
I wish some company would market a hardcore or Xtreme edition component(mobo, CPU, GFX card, whatever) and package it in a blank cardboard box with the brandname written on the front with a sharpie pen. No cables or games inside, nothing but a Driver CD if needed. THAT would be the essence of a hardcore product.
Well then I can't wait for the **DFI Expert Special Edition Ultimate** :rolleyes:
that packaging is pretty lame.. they're missing the agenda of their target audience with that crap.. lol. All I need is an anti-static bag with the board in it... :) ok, and a manual. (a hard copy of that can be nice)
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Originally Posted by trakslacker
Me too:toast:
U guys don't get it, your supposed to put all your stuff IN that box. I'm trying to figure a way to stuff 4 drives and my watercooling in there right now, it's gonna look bling!
What is this thing called "Manual", and "Hard Copy" ???:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by revenant
I like automatic cars :D