He should have them very soon, me anxios too :) Well just to see by how much my is better
Can anyone guess what this is
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Mk4/ultimate.JPG
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He should have them very soon, me anxios too :) Well just to see by how much my is better
Can anyone guess what this is
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Mk4/ultimate.JPG
OH MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks like about a 8% increase in cooling!!!!!! No question you're upholding the site's name!!!:toast:
If in fact it gives a boost to cooling then it should help your O/C as well.
Wonder by how much???????? :D
I'm sure I can guess what that is...but I will have cheated ;)
I'll let others guess :)
Unfortunatly thermal conductivity is just one part of the total heat transfer, forced convection plays bigger role in my block. I have no clue what to expect but if I can get another 2 degrees or maybe even more should be great.Quote:
Originally posted by Craig
Man you get this next block done out of that you better add some LEDs to really show this one off big time. I'd say go with white ones.
If in fact it gives a 8% boost to cooling then it should help your O/C as well.
Wonder by how much???????? :D
(note: I'm going to feel a bit foolish if that isn't what I think it is.)
I agree the forced convection is very/more important. Your block is very good at removing the heat quickly as it is transmitted through the blocks base to the water. The combined increase in surface area and coolant velocity means the coolant removes the heat as fast as it makes contact with the coolant.
Will this not then increase the importance of a material that can transfer the CPUs heat away from it more quickly and deliver it to the coolant?
On the other side of the coin however is the fact that the waterblock's base plate is only 2mm thick. Such a thin base plate would minimize the effect of a impovement in block material.
It's enough to make you crazy thinking about it. So when do you think you'll have one ready for testing?
Morphling1: Could u make a version out of aluminium also? Just to see what kind of temperaturerise u get while using a thin base.
HMB, A real good idea, if he has the time for it.
Yes I'm interested too, and I will make it just too see it's performanse :)
Morphling1 you are one cool guy. Thanks for the extra effort so that all can see the differace derived in using alum. copper and silver in a advanced high performing design. :toast:
Look like a hunk of silver to me!
To me eitherQuote:
Originally posted by sysfailur
Look like a hunk of silver to me!
That's alu right dont say its silver heh.
hmm didn't u do your spiralblock in both copper and alu? and the alu one was almost 10C worst? I think that shows that alu is a bit worse.
Unfortunately, that's silver :)
Yes I did exactly the same desing of two fin spiral in Cu & Al and the difference was ~10°C. But I'm still very interested how microchannel version would do.
Alum vs Silver vs Copper micro-channel sounds very cool morph, hint hint :p
Hey Morph,
Gotta say, that waterblock looks like a winner all around. You should sell these things. I know id buy one if you did and im sure there are others here that would too, right guys?!
In fact he sells them so pm him and ask if he still does
I'd like to see how this block fares against Cathar's WW since that's what I'm planning to get when he gets some more done. But if this is better, I'd definitely buy one.
SoulEdge,
Morphling1 is sending a block to Bill Adams to test, so you will have your answer in due time.
I like the two barb design & plexi top. But I doubt the performance differance will be very large, both are mini fin/channel designs.
has anyone tried building a block with the portion over the core thinned out .... this would make it as close to direct die cooling right?
tediber,
Fairly sure morph has tested several base thickness's. :)
WOW!
An absolute piece of ART!!!!!!!!!!
C
Yes, my block, strictly focusses on using very thin base-plates to achieve something that could be considered very close to direct-die cooling as a result. In fact I'm fairly confident I can state that direct-die cooling would have quite a deal of trouble exceeding it. I used thermo-dynamics simulation software that I wrote to arrive at the design and dimensions of my block.Quote:
Originally posted by tediber
has anyone tried building a block with the portion over the core thinned out .... this would make it as close to direct die cooling right?
Morphling is going through much implementation trial and error, and I see in this thread that he has basically reverse engineered something close to my exact design after being inspired by it. The only real difference here is that he's taken the two outlets back to a single outlet and put a clear top on it.
Nice looking block. All of the concepts that it uses are explained in greater detail in this thread which explains the reasons behind the design that Morphling has implemented in his block. You'll need to register at OCAU to read the thread.
Well the theory I had long before that, the problem with me was the execution, before that I only tried 2mm channels (radial design of channell not straight, and they were very difficult to machine on my mill, but when seeing your thread I was inspired, and then also got idea of how to produce those channels. Then after few test block I finalize my design to MK4 rev2. There are quite some differences though in dimensions and details in WW and my block.
Ok update
I made this mounting block when I started working on silver block, it now much easier to mill because I don't have to remount block and align it each time I change directiton, I do that on vise which is 360° turnable.
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Block%20making.JPG
And here's rough finish of silver block, it finished btw. but I'm again need to borrow the cam to photo the finished block
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Mk4/sil...lver%20001.JPG
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Mk4/sil...lver%20002.JPG
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Mk4/sil...lver%20003.JPG
Too bad I won't have a chance to test it, the man who order it is gonna pick it up in few minutes, but I'll have my own version soon :D