I thought you had free medicare in germany like us in canada?
Where I live we even have a "state" insurance for all the medications...some pills cost a lot so it's really nice.
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I thought you had free medicare in germany like us in canada?
Where I live we even have a "state" insurance for all the medications...some pills cost a lot so it's really nice.
its not free, you pay a monthly fee to a medicare insurance company of your choice.
they all have to pay for the basic treatments, some even pay for special and expensive treatments , thats where the different insurances compete with each other...
but you dont HAVE to be insured... its your own choice...
of course you have to pay a lot more every month if you have been without insurance for a long time.
basically its a mixed system.
you pay a minimum fee wich goes into one large bag and with that bag all the basic treatments of all people in germany get paid. thats the social part.
then each insurance company charges a lil extra fee, each charges a different extra fee, some charge more and in return you get special treatments for free or cheaper, others have a lower extra fee to the minimum fee for the big bag, but instead you only get very basic treatments.
so if you didnt pay any money into the "big bag" for a long time you have to pay a higher monthly fee to make up for it, since the chances are you will get stuff paid out of the bag while you barely put any money in it in return.
thats why usually everybody has a medicare insurance.
many times your insured over the company your emplyed by, then you dont pay the fee yourself but the company pays for it and you get less money... so that way it looks like its free, but its not.
its absolutely free in canada? :confused:
please explain :D
In Denmark, it's paid true our Taxes.
in germany its more liberal, you dont HAVE to pay for it, but in the end you kinda do because your screwed without it... but you can decide to not do it... thats freedom :)
Too liberal for me, we all get sick, one time or another.
And you don't get the situation where people can't be helped, course they couldn't affort the exstra bill.
Health, and communication, are two things that never should be a privat matter.
I don't want the situation where i have to look the other way, course i can't affort to pay or help a person that chose (or couldn't ) not to pay.
mayhaps when he was indulging in the alcoholic beverages, he might have consumed some bad hallucinogenic substance, triggering or causing some sort of lapse in his perception of reality...ive seen it happen actually.
well there are places where people get basic medicare treatment for free, so...
even if your not insured you will get help...
i kinda agree with you though, everybody should have to be medicare insured.
about communication... nah i hate that... everybody in germany is forced to pay for the national tv channels. there are tv channels that work like companies and then there are tv channels that are paid by and organized by the state, so they get paid from the taxes...
wich i hate.... i have to pay 35$ a month for tv channels i hate and barely watch... and they spend all that money on getting exclusive rights for the wolrd chamionship of soccer and bs like that instead of foscussing on news and educational tv stuff wich is imo what they should do. entertainment is very subjective, youll never have a show or program that everybody will like... so imo its better to just supply the public with the basics, news and educational stuff, and leave the entertainment to the private channels. plus those channels are actually competing against each other, so they are under a pressure to adjust their programs to the audience, while the state tv just does what it wants and can afford to show stuff nobody cares about...
plus i barely watch tv at all... i didnt watch tv for a couple of months, yet i have to pay for the tv channels... thats just wrong imo.
back on topic, he begged me to let him watch tv, lol, but i didnt give in.
first he seemed really stressed out, he was sweatting and looked really fcked up LOL :D
but now hes calmed down and his attention problem is a lot better already.
tv overdose anybody? kinda scary...
I think this guy needs some time away.
well at least its getting better
but why would a TV overdose cause that behavior?
You get depressedQuote:
Originally Posted by Axylone
It has never been the intention to replace your life, but i'm sure the private canals would have you tied up infront of a TV, only releasing you, when you have to go down to the post office to pay them.
Give the man some female company, sometimes it solves the most complicated cases. ;) :D
can you get his family involved, I think this maybe beyond what you can help him with......your description, if accurate does describe REALLY paranoid behaviour
no one can make a diagnosis over a computer geek forum but schizophrenia has been raised as a possibility and that is certainly likely
if you like this guy get him some help
i dont think it would be easy to find him a chic :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Frisch
i could only contact his family through him... i dont know them... and if id ask him for a phone number now it would be suspicious :DQuote:
Originally Posted by racinjimy
but hes better already...
hahahah too funny... we were watching tv (he kept begging and he seems more or less ok now, so i plugged the cable back in)
i was zapping and there was some star trek voyager episode where they find destroyed borg cubes and theres some borg virus or something that infects seven of nine.
shes suddenly linked to the borg consciessness thing again and hears voices of all the borg or something. its too funny, she kinda looked like shed pass out and then there were many voices talking and my roomate was like "shes hearing voices too!!!"
i almost fell of the couch laughing hahahah :D
he also laughed so i assume its got better and he can laugh about it again because its not a serious thing anymore :D
Well it's good to hear he is feeling better.
Yes in Canada it's free and paid through our income taxes.
So I have a card exacly like a credit card with my picture on it and with it i can chose any doctor i want;I pay with it and the state pay all the bills.
It's 100% free if you are a canadian citizen.
For the medication it's the same but you still pay a small part each time you buy at the drugstore some medication.
But this insurance is only for my part of the country ( we have more progressive laws in the french part of Canada).
Of course we have some private clinics if you have the money,it's faster to get some scan that are very high tech and some surgery....
So you have the choice.
same here, we also have those chip cards, except that we have different companies offering medicare insurance, theres competition in this market in germany to keep the prices low.
I had the same thing (brought on by drugs) Now that it is there it is not going to go away.
He will have both good days and bad days but one thing is guaranteed he will not get better without the drugs. I live in Ireland and was paying 80euro plus 150 from the gov. every 3 months.
This may not have been brought on by TV. Repressed memories, abuse as a child, genetics, drugs and a whole host of other things can cause this.
The best thing that you can do is to get him help now. Sit him down and tell him he needs it. I would think it’s probable that he already distrusts you and believes you are saying things behind his back. I know I lost nearly every friend I had this way. Lucky for me my best-mate got me committed.
When he's hearing voices tell him to go get some air and smoke more cigs (no need to put another nail in your coffin unless u smoke as well :) ). I remember reading nicotine can help reduce voices in your head in one of my old college roomates psych books.
while
how ugly is he
and is he doing this for your attetion, did that 1 time that i stayed at a good friends house and his sister was truly, eeh, hot
i sarted acting like i was :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up and she felt sorry for me
he might be doing this for attetion,
while, needless to say, when i was over thare, i acted :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up to get her attetion, and suddenly merged into saneness
im going out with her
and we go back and laugh at it
funny isint it
maybe he likes you
Ways to Freak out your Roomate
RyanQuote:
1. Smoke ballpoint pens.
2. Smile -- All the time
3. Always flush the toilet three times.
4. Listen to radio static.
5. Open your window shades before you go to sleep each night. Close them as soon as you wake up.
6. Whenever you go to sleep, starts jumping on your bed . . . do so for a while, then jump really high and act like you hit your head on the ceiling. Crumple onto your bed and fake like you were knocked out . . . use this method to fall asleep...every night for a month.
7. Whenever his/her parents call and ask for your roommate, breathe into the phone for 5 seconds then hang up.
. 8.Fake a heart attack. When your roommate gets the paramedics to come, pretend nothing happened.
9. Whenever the phone rings, get up and answer the door
10.Whenever someone knocks, answer the phone.
11. Spend all your money on Transformers. Play with them at night. If your roommate says anything, tell him/her with a straight face, "They're more than meets the eye."
12. Get some hair. Disperse it around your roommate's head while he/she is asleep. Keep a pair of scissors by your bed. Snicker at your roommate every morning.
13. Trash your room when your roommates not around. Then leave and wait for your roommate to come back. When he/she does, walk in and act surprised. Say, "Uh-oh, it looks like THEY were here again."
14. Every time you see your roommate yell, "You son of a..." and kick him/her in the stomach. Then buy him/her some ice cream.
15. Set your roommate's bed on fire. Apologize and explain that you've been watching too much Beavis and Butthead. Do it again. Tell him/her that your not sorry because this time they deserved it.
16. Eat lots of MnM's. Pick out all the blue ones and stockpile them in the closet. If your roommate inquires, explain that visitors are coming, but you can't say anything more, or you'll have to face the consequences.
17. Draw a tiny, black spot on your arm. Make it bigger every day. Look at it and say, "It's spreading, it's spreading!"
18. Buy a McDonald's Happy Meal for lunch every day. Eat the straw and the napkin. Throw everything else away.
19. Buy a plant. Sleep with it at night. Talk to it. After a few weeks, start to argue with it loudly. Then yell, "I can't live in the same room with you," storm out of the room and slam the door. Get rid of the plant, but keep the pot. Refuse to discuss the plant ever again.
20. Buy a Jack-In-The-Box. Every day, turn the handle until the clown pops out. Scream continuously for twenty minutes.
21. If your roommate comes home after midnight, hit him/her on the head with a rolling pin. Immediately go to bed, muttering, "Ungrateful little..."
22. Pile dirty dishes in your roommate's bed. Insist that you don't know how they got there.
23. Collect hundreds of pens and pile them on one side of the room. Keep one pencil on the other side of the room. Laugh at the pencil.
24. While your roommate is out, glue your shoes to the ceiling. When your roommate walks in, sit on the floor, hold your head, and moan.
25. Collect potatoes. Paint faces on them and give them names. Name one after your roommate. Separate your roommate's potato from the others. Wait a few days, and then bake your roommate's potato and eat it. Explain to your roommate, "He just didn't belong."
26.Move everything to one side of the room. Ask your roommate if he/she knows how much an elephant weighs, and look at the floor on the empty side of the room with concern.
27. Practice needlepoint every night. At one point, grab your thumb and scream, "Owwwww!" Cry hysterically for a few minutes, and then go back to bed. Sob and sniff all night.
28. Every time your roommate comes in, immediately turn off the lights and go to bed. When he/she leaves, get up and loudly yell, "Okay guys, you can come out now!"
29. Sit in front of a chess board for hours, saying nothing, doing nothing. Then look up and say, "I think this game goes a lot faster with two players."
30. Talk back to your Rice Bubbles. All of a sudden, act offended, throw the bowl on the floor and kick it. Refuse to clean it up, explaining, "No, I want to watch them suffer."
31. Change the locks on the door. Don't let your roommate in unless he/she says the secret word. Change the secret word often. If your roommate can't guess the secret word, make him/her pay a tithe.
32. Scatter stuffed animals around the room. Put party hats on them. Play loud music. When your roommate walks in, turn off the music, take off the party hats, put away the stuffed animals, and say, "Well, it was fun while it lasted."
33. When you walk into the room, look at the roommate in disgust and yell, "Oh you're here!" Walk away yelling and cursing.
34. Buy a watermelon. Draw a face on it and give it a name. Ask your roommate if the watermelon can sleep in his/her bed. If your roommate says no, drop the watermelon out the window. Make it look like a suicide. Say nasty things about your roommate at the funeral.
35. Draw a chalk outline on the floor. When your roommate comes in, say, "Don't worry. It's not what you think." If he/she asks about it again, immediately change the subject.
36. Drink a cup of coffee every morning. When you finish it, gnaw on the mug for about ten minutes. Then look at your roommate, immediately put the mug away, and quickly leave the room.
37. Set up about twenty plants in an organized formation. When your roommate walks in, pretend to be in the middle of delivering a speech to the plants. Whisper to them, "We'll continue this later," while eyeing your roommate suspiciously.
38. Keep some worms in a shoe box. When doing homework, go and consult with the worms every so often. Then become angry, shouting at the worms that they're stupid and they don't know what they are talking about.
39. Wear a paper hat. Every time your roommate walks in, say, "Welcome to McDonald's, can I take your...Oh, it's just you." Take off the hat, sit, and pout.
40. Go through your roommate's textbooks with a red pen, changing things and making random corrections. If your roommate protests, tell him/her that you just couldn't take it anymore.
41. As soon as your roommate turns off the light at night, begin singing famous operas as loud as you can. When your roommate turns on the light, look around and pretend to be confused.
42.Whenever your roommate sneezes, go and hide in the closet for about an hour. Look around nervously for the rest of the day.
43. Sit and stare at your roommate for hours. Bring others in to join you. Eat peanuts, throwing a few at your roommate. Then say, "Boy, these zoos just aren't what they used to be."
44. Buy a gun. Clean it every day. One day, put a band-aid on your forehead, and refuse to discuss the gun ever again.
Things can from time to time be a little to much for all of us, and you just want to go.......http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9...zydance2rs.gif
[rant mode] Denmark has a great policy [/rant mode]
In my opinion its a shame that too many countries are moving more towards the absolutely free market economy, I think a well balanced mixed economy is by far th best.
While there are many things I hate about DK policy, I'm beginning to grasp much of its benefits.
We have social medicine in Canada, it's about the only social program I believe in. The rest suck. You are not free to die because you failed to pay up your insurance as your insurance is already paid. If you want to die, just hang around at home watching the tube or use the old fashioned bullet method.
Anyhow Saaya is finding life bearable living with his bud now. I vote we all chip in and buy him a hat made of tinfoil for his B'Day.
i tried that, and yes he started to distrust me initially but then regained trust when i stopped laughing and listened. wich was tough because he was talking about stuff that doesnt make any sense and just sounds really fcked upQuote:
Originally Posted by krazy_8s
i got him to agree to check how much it would cost to sign up medicare insurance again and to look with him if theres maybe a place you dont need a medicare insurance for to help him.
that makes sense, hes been smoking a whole lot the past two days... and he smoked really fast too.Quote:
Originally Posted by illmatik
we were watching a movie and he started quietly saying and mubling things and took a break. he did that around every 30mins, smoked 2 cigs and then came back.
now that i think of it im an idiot for watching that movie with him :(
i kept telling him and my other roomate that id like to see beeing john malkovich again, they both didnt know it and wanted to watch it.
yesterday when i got home from work he had rented the dvd and we saw it... for those who dont know it, its a pretty fcked up movie...
a guy finds a hidden door with a tunnel behind it. when you crawl through that tunnel your suddenly going to get pulled forward deep inside and end up in john malkovich's head/mind. you can see anything he doe, hear what he does etc, and if you talk loud enough he hears your voice as his thougts and you can make him even do and say things and control his body.
this is about the worst movie to watch with somebody who hears voices i guess :/
lol Banzai :D
good ones hehe
perry_78, i agree
ung, a hat for me or for him? ^^
ok, so this is the latest update, and unfortunately the last one for the next days i think...
i cought a bad stomach flu and couldnt sleep until 5 am because my stomach hurt so bad and i feel sick. 30mins ago (9:30am) i got woken up by my roomate. he packed loads of stuff into his travel backpack and cleaned up his room, he told me he will move out asap. :eek:
i asked him whats up and where he wants to go... and why he wants to move out???
he said he doesnt know where hes going yet, he will decide while hes on the way...
i kept asking why he wants to leave and he looked into my eyes (btw, he has a very very weird look for the past days ever since he started acting weird, i cant really explain it... his eyes look sad and tired, but he looked "deep" into my eyes all the time he looked at me) and said with a very serious tone and face "i dont know whats real and not anymore... i gotta get out of here..."
i tried to make him stop but he didnt let me and i was not fit enough to argue about it or insist, actually i had to concentrate not to fall down because i was/am kinda dizzy from so little sleep and not having eaten anything for a day.
well i made him take his cell phone with him... so my plan is to look for some emergency psychological line or something.
phone just rang and it was a buddy of my roomate. i asked him if he knows where he went and he said no, he left a weird message on his answering machine thats why hes calling. i asked him for a phone number or anything of my roomates parents but he didnt have any infos.
i told him that he was acting weird lately and if he ever did that before, he said "not really... acting weird how?"
i didnt want to make my roomate feel embaressed about this later so i just said "i dont know, a little confused"
going to look for some phone line now... man my stomach is killing me, feels like a car drove over my stomach
k, got some infos and places where he can go in case he shows up again.
man this is really weird, you always hear and laugh about people hearing voices and acting paranoid, but when it happens its kinda scary...
Go on a vegan diet, that way you will have a excuess to get rid of all the knifes in the house. on second thought.........keep one and put it under your pillow.