Sorry for that mikeguava and Sampsa.
Is it possible that there'll be anything to do with the chipset ?
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Sorry for that mikeguava and Sampsa.
Is it possible that there'll be anything to do with the chipset ?
MAn im would be pissed at loosing any CPU from a faulty board, ill be keeping a close eye on this thread to see if more die?
ouch hope this doesn't happen on the Sapphire Pure innovations too ??
guess good decision to keep my 3200+ winchester handy to initially test a new board!
are you guys using same bios ? or psus ? as i know dfi released a 2nd bios on their web site for crossfire board
@ Sampsa did Sapphire narrow the problem down as to why your cpu died on the board, any ideas of what caused it ??
Sampsa, sorry to hear about your FX-57. Something is clearly not right with these boards. Just wanted to ask if you experienced any high HTT problems on your Gruper?
I can't get mine to boot at all over 270, and its not stable past 250 despite backing off multi's, LDT and RAM dividers.
I contacted directly ATI (since it's their reference design) and they didn't see any problem in this case. I guess the fried CPU will be investigated by AMD to find out what was the cause of death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynasty
PS. I won't be testing Grouper board anymore since I can't afford to lose any other FX-57 CPUs. On the other hand DFI's RDX200 seems to be working great so far.
Guys
I have tested 6 Gruper boards and 5 Halibut boards, I also have 2 RDX200 boards. The ONLY board that has killed a CPU was the NF4 Ultra D with the 1-14 bios many moons ago.
Remember when ever you run a cpu out of spec you run a risk...nothing is guaranteed.
Tell that to mikeguava, I think you have got your boards mixed up ?? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sampsa
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
same as Dumo..
I got 5390050x:D
Weird, looks like 1st batch doesn't have any problem at all
Tony, how is the testing going on the grupers?
Having trouble getting anythnig over 250 HTT stable on mine, along with Somkeythebandit who is in the same situation. Any pointers?
Hmm but isn't a bit funny that multiple individual and experienced OC'ing gurus are getting multiple cases of this? Can't really write it off as "when you run a CPU out of spec you run a risk"... it's a fair bit patronising as everyone here knows that already, and it clear that the boards have a problem here... how could you come to any other conclusion?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
3 dead CPU's in a very short space of time in the same board... $3k worth of silicon... it deserves and requires thorough investigation as to why it has happened so others in the future who buy this board do not suffer losses.
Something is clearly amiss... it's not as though this is happening to noobs who haven't seen and identified countless problems with their rigs is it?
ouch this has got to hurt both DFI and ATI.
Yep, it's DFIs turn now (like MSI, EPoX etc.) :stick: :(Quote:
Originally Posted by T_M
D539004XX andQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
D540160XX
Guys thanks for the info on these problems. I feel for you man, you just lost the equivalent of a nice down payment on a nice car. BTW which bios were u using that killed your cpus? Might be one of those earlier cpu killer bios.
Man, this blows. I'm real sorry for your loss(es) Mike, I feel for you dude. If a lot of people get hit by this could a class action law suit be instigated?
Honestly I still think it is too early to think about anything like class action. DFI seems to be a stand-up company and doubt it will ever go there.
I had contacted DFI support in Taiwan and they want to look at all my hardware. I will send a whole bunch of crap in to them and they'll have a look at it.
I can only hope they will set things right for me - guess time will tell.
Again, this might have been an extreme string of bad luck which I had more than enough lately, but somehow I doubt it in this case.
To all the current board owner, it recommend something to look out for ,is if you Smart Guardian is reporting any big jump of vcore after a reboot. If you have that ever occur to you I'd recommend taking a break...
would also love to hear and read if anyone else has ever noticed this.
With the first board, I had tried to find the voltage measuring points to manually check voltages on DFI forums and posted about weird voltage and temps , because already with board #1 voltage jumps didn't make fully sense to me. But then there where so many other issues that I had with the board - that I focused on other crossfire related troubleshooting...unfortunately.
I can easily see how the X2 4800+ died - if a vcore jump to 1.65V did happen.
RE: AMD RMA - don't think that this would be the right thing to do, unfortunately 2 of the CPUs wouldn't be RMA'able to begin with - the last FX57 - which was used for only 3hours total I could - but again I don't think it would the correct thing to do.
Kudos to you for reacting to this in a calm manner, I seriously doubt many people would be as objective as you are being. :toast:
that is scare, like sampsa I can't afford to lose any other FX-57 cup, so no ati board for me.
so i didnt like the ati chipset for the beginning, i think that the first chipset can't be a big succeed, its a "home work" that ati need to pay like nvidia with the nf1 boards.
Well, I'm not blaming ATI chipset or Sapphire but the fact is that I have here died FX-57 which was running default cooling and default voltage. I was running it at 10x multiplier and testing my Redline XP 4000 memory @ 250 MHz. System froze and never woke up again. Motherboard was Sapphire's Grouper.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupra
I've never experienced anything like this during my 7 years of overclocking.
And I have a RX200 sitting here next to me, apparently just wanting to wolf my CPU's down :(
Nope, think I'll give it a miss untill this is sorted out properly!
Sorry to hear that this happend to everybody who lost a CPU.
-k0nsl
Sampsa, what temps was your FX57 running at? Mine was running around 26C idle @ 1.4V ( which is default on the board for me ) when the last CPU died. Just curious whether the Sapphire runs CPUs equally cold.
Similarly my ram appeared to run a lot cooler than on a NF4 board - both the CPU temps and Ram temps made me intitally wonder whether the voltages were reading correctly on my board - that coupled with low clocks made me want to look in the actual voltages supplied to the ram and cpu. Well I never got to that - I don't forsee me doing it anywhere in the near future
Well maybe we were running our CPUs too slow :rolleyes: - mine was @ 9X multi and 200FSB - even at 14X multi my CPU would be around 2-3C above ambient. Hopefully the 9X multi will not be the reason to deny any claim - lol
FX57 #1 died during 3DMark05 at all stock settings - and the X2 I honestly don't remember anymore. ANd like I said the FX #2 died while being on DFI-Street.com
Ouch I will probably avoid this board. Will be going with the Expert unless I hear stories from that too. Remember friends killed a few cpus with the ic7-g max3 a while ago
That's some terrible news, sorry to hear about it.
I have a DFI Crossfire running here with FX 57, I’ve been using it on my watercooled 24/7 rig for about a week. Running some Mushkin Redline at 268 with around 3.4V, the board runs cooler then the NF4 DFI. I find this board is working better with my VX and Redline then it does with my TCCD sticks.
No voltage spike problem that I’m aware of on this rig.
OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=39590&stc=1
God, I hope this doesn't happen on any of the DFI Expert boards with similar power layouts to this one. Ouch!