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We've known that the x1800 had sm 3.0 for a while, and that ATI has had SM 2.0b for a while too, and the difference can only be seen in the most recent splinter cell's SM 3.0-biased video options...otherwise most games run fine and well with SM versions.
Game developers arent foolhardy. They want to make games accessible to as many ppl as possible, and so only the newer upcoming games will be sm 3.0 only, otherwise most will support both 2.0b and 3.0.
Perkam
Ah, clarified.
Thanks
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Hopefully by E.A. :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim
So then I can hate E.A. and ATi all in the same emotion. I dont hate them, Im just really, really disapointed that they didn't come thru. Ive lost a little respect for them, UNLESS they show me image quality, and horsepower improvements over GT,GTX.
I would like to formally announce a video card that I have privately developed in my own home. It's called the Mr. Tinker5000-Ultra, it has 40 pixel pipelines, 12 vertex pipelines, a core clocked at 1Ghz, and 512Mb ram clocked at 1500Mhz. The Mr. Tinker5000-Ultra scores 15,100 in 3dMark05 at default speeds.
I hope to have the Mr. Tinker5000-Ultra available in retail stores by the end of November for an MSRP of $450.
Seriously folks, if you can't buy it, then it doesn't compete. "Direct competition" is determined by one thing: PRICE. And look at the price points: The X1800XL is not competing with the 7800gt, at $450 retail it is competing with the 7800GTX, which will probably handily beat it.
Actually Direct competition is when two products that perform the same function are compared. Not based on price. Just a heads up for future reference.
Also, ATi has showed me that they possess better Image quality, and Performance. I intend to purchase the X1800XT ASAP.
but most consumers judge on price.. If they can get a $350 card that is equal to a $450 card.. they will buy the $350 card...
And if you look at the benchmarks the 7800GT and the X1800Xl are about the same but the GT is here and about $100 cheaper..
Now you don't need a slide rule to figure out which to going to be more often bought...
In theory, you are correct, but when it comes right down to it, EVERY person or business walks into every purchase with a budget (except for the super rich, in which case the competition is based on who has the best product for their need).Quote:
Originally Posted by OcX
They want to know what's the best product they can get for $100. $200. $350. $450. The money is where you start.
If I have product selling for $1000 that has the same features as a competitor's product which sells for $200, do our two products compete? No.
That's just the way it is in the real world.
Would be a nice purchase for those that didn't bought 7800GTX :D
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did someone say rich?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Tinker
clayton:
Main PC:
4x Opteron 875 @ stock speed & 1x HP Quadro FX 4500
The world's first Opteron freak since model Opteron 248HE. Yes I'm here!
Gaming PC:
AMD Athlon 64 FX-57+ & SLI'ed 2x EVGA 7800GTX
mmm msut be nice ;-)
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Originally Posted by __TRONIK__
Thats Sick!! :D
Clayton, can I come over and rob you? :slobber: :slobber: :D