I'm reasonably happy with the results anyway. I'm going to keep pushing, but if you look at the ballistix, people are averaging about 270-280 at 3-3-3-8. This ram is doing 245 at 2.5-3-2-6, so thats 25-35mhz slower, but with better timings, so its probably what, 10-15 mhz slower? And it costs almost half as much.