Very excellent. I was using a Promise raid card but I did not dissable Both IDE's. That is very strange only thing on the ide was my CDrom.
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Very excellent. I was using a Promise raid card but I did not dissable Both IDE's. That is very strange only thing on the ide was my CDrom.
Standard V-core mod, Hip 6301 Pin 7, 50k VR, works great.
OPP
Well for you water cooling guys out there, there are prefabbed ziff socket hold downs available, I went to this guys shop yesterday to pickup a waterblock for my 9700( gf3 waterblock ). I met the owner and he showed me around, he showed me alot of quality stuff. He designs all his own stuff right there, and has it silver plated. He has some cool chit like memory water blocks and stuff. Anyways he can probably come up with anything you need. He sells his block with a zif clamp, he sells a zif clamp for a different block also. He even milled the bottom of my new block while I waited, including milling the edge so that I wouldn't have to take the shim off the Radeon ( 1 less thing I gotta do :D ). Like I said he could probably come up with anything you need as far as hold downs( no guarantee here, but you can ask ), even if he doesn't have them listed at his site, as he does all the work himself ( 'cept plating ).
It was my first time at a place where someone designs/builds/mills their own stuff, and it was cool to see it all..... wish I had that kind of gear!!!!! heheh
I took some pics of the block after he milled the edges for me, but I don't have the cable to take them off my camera( thought I did, but wrong camera cable :( - will need to get a sandisk ). Any way enough of this.... here is his site if ya want a prefabbed hold down- talk to Scott ( the owner ) and make sure what he has will work on your particular block b4 you order it.
http://www.cpufx.com/Merchant2/merch...tegory_Code=UC
Just picked up 2x256 Kingston 3500 hyper to go with this board...ouch! $240
hmm. don't like that
You should think with a pci lock it should be no trouble to use the IDE controllers.
Anyway, which Promise Controller is better for overclocking?
FastTrak 100 TX2 ? oder the TX2000 ... both should handle 66mhz pci, so there should be no Problem pushing up the fsb (at least with the HD drives)?
Just because the controller will work @ 66mhz pci doesnt mean the hard drives will :p. Dont forget it doesnt convert the speed and fix @ 33 for your hdds.
PiLsY.
Excellent! hmmm....TheDude looks at his huge shaking hands.Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Standard V-core mod, Hip 6301 Pin 7, 50k VR, works great.
OPP
@ PiLsY
Thx, didn't know that...
According to Randi's post in another thread the PCI bus is Locked so HD problems from high FSB's should not be a problem. I will be very interesting to see how Opp's board does when he starts using the high bit multipliers. I just wonder if they could also be part of the problem.Quote:
Originally posted by PiLsY
Just because the controller will work @ 66mhz pci doesnt mean the hard drives will :p. Dont forget it doesnt convert the speed and fix @ 33 for your hdds.
PiLsY.
make that 2x512, really ouch!!Quote:
Originally posted by TheDude
Just picked up 2x256 Kingston 3500 hyper to go with this board...ouch! $240
by statement 1, i assume you are referring to the onboard SATA....darn, i was hoping to go the cheap route and just buy an adapter to add my 2 extra HDs, now i suppose i have to pick up a rocketraid cardQuote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Okay, I had to go to bed:D
Heres the deal, for one thing this is a XP2700 chip, I was just testing:D
No HD corruption:D
There are no holes on the mobo, this is a original.
It took me 2 hours to figuer out the mobos problem with high fsb, there are 2 problems running at 225.
1) You have to dissable both IDE controllers, I have 2 IBMs set up on the ATA 150 controllers, Raid-0.
2) your internet conection is shot at this speed.
Of coarse I only had so much time to play, I'll be testing it today after my AC DC Mid Term I didn't study for last night:D
The mem mod will be a B!tch, it is the same as the BE7-BD7.
The timings were very low 4-4-10, can't do much at 2.7V :D
I'll be back later and figuer this bad boy out. Remember the #1 above is the secret to get this mobo to go high with the FSB.
OPP
as for statement 2, i assume you are referring to the onboard nic....darn again, but o well, i have a few of nics lying around
so i guess high fsb means i have to give up everything thats onboard? does abit make a regular nf7? i have an m-audio revolution soundcard on pre-order, so i wouldnt be using the onboard sound either...sort of defeats the purpose of having a nforce2 except that i want those agp and pci locks
gokickrocks,
You assumed right.
Well I ran into some problems. I was testing for dual DDR action, BTW, it did 220 tops and there was no difference between haveing the 2 sticks in and just one as far as a Sandra bench. Anyway I fried the OS going for 225 so I installed w2k, then I tryed some 200 and couldn't get into Windows. And Now I can't even BOOT past 188 or so. Very strange, I should have benched some 3D last night while the sucker was running good:D
Back to the drawing board:rolleyes:
OPP
Any idea when the holes version is supposed to be released? I'm trying to decide on 8rda or Nf7-s... Gonna be hard to mem mod you say? Argh! any idea how hard the 8rda is gonna be to volt mod?
Were you still at multiplier setting of 10 when all the problems started?
Opp, did you have it in the correct two slots for DualChannel !?
You should really be getting much better bandwith .. go down to 200 FSB, and see what you get at max timings.. you need to get around 97.3% mem bandwith, otherwise Abit fouled up !
/Damir
DJ:)
Sandra really does not show a difference as far as Dual Channel is concerned. I've benched the 8RDA+ and can tell you this from experience...don't expect to see big differences in numbers. Where you can see the real world difference is in a bench such as Hexus PiFast Challenge....where a KT400 board may make the low 60 second range.....but the nForce2 boards have delved into previously only Intel territory with sub-60 second runs and better. I saw a big difference in the Car and Lobby games in 3DMark which rely on high bandwidth to produce highest FPS, between the 8RDA+ and the KD7....by 8-9 FPS..which might not seem like much...but it makes a substantial impact on scores across the 4 games.
Randi:D
I was able to work with my friend Aceman and his NF7-S tonight, and here are the results:
I believe this is the fastest 3DMark score under 2GHz. Project description has more detailed hardware specs. This is with ALL onboard devices enabled. One harddrive was running and it was on the IDE controller. The onboard NIC seemed to function fine, but we did not do any extensive testing (we will know to check on it next time). Our Sandra scores were not that impressive:
http://webpages.charter.net/praetere...Praet_6322.jpg
This is with one 512MB XM3500 at Cas2-6-3-2. We were able to load Windows, but unable to run Sandra at 238:
http://webpages.charter.net/praetereo/WCPUID_238fsb.jpg
I think better cooling may help, as it was hot in his room, and the system would become unstable if we did not allow a little time between benching. The worst thing is that I still can not get my XP2700 to work at a decent FSB in this board:brick:. Tonight we tried unlocking it, and lower multipliers would work fine in my AT7-MAX, but the chip would not work with any multiplier or FSB at all in the NF7-S. I am running out of ideas. If anyone has any suggestions, I would love to hear them.
OPP, a pitty that 225FSB shot isn't some DCDDR action, otherwise it would have been pretty sweet. :)
@preatereo: nice work! Don't concentrate on sisoft membenches if you want to see dual channel power though, run a pifast/superpi bench and you'll see the true power. As far as I know, you don't need to unlock your XP2700+ to change the MP's on a nforce² board.
agreed with Randi on Car/Lobby boost as my VIA boards were lagging behind by quite a bit in those tests. 250fps with air cooled ti4600 isn't that bad considering my last bench was only @ 2.44ghz. however dual DDR gave me 350 marks of boost @ 204fsb on A7N8X. i wish i could put my hands on NF7-S mobo...
I'm confused, why is everyone (so far that I've seen) who is using the Abit board only using one stick... what the hell is the point?! Dual channel is what I'm interested in! Rarr. :P
Heres a quickie unbuffered at 200mhz fsb
Hmm
Thats certainly not as good as id hoped gallifrey. I hit nearly that on the KR7A. Think the best I got was about 1500/1450. Its certainly not revolutionary put it that way.
I take it thats in DC mode?
Anyone remember Asus claiming 5000/5000 @ 225 fsb?
PiLsY.
yeah dual channel, but sandra benchie doesnt support it...
AT 200fsb sandra only gives a max 3200mb/s out of a max 6400mb/s
Therefore all scores are halved...
The fault is with sandra as it only uses 64bit wide bw checks except for on rdram where it uses 128bit wide...
The reason for the scores improving with dual channel slightly is not down to the BW merely the fact that the bus is slightly more efficient with bot channels running...
When sandra supports NF2 properly you will see some improvement in the scores...
Looks like this board is going to be pretty sweet. I hate voltmods thought. So much work ;). Nice Job OPP, Praetereo
and Galifrey. Keep us informed. I think I'll be trading one of my Intels in for one of these new AMD/NF2 setups.
I await Opps 3d benches ...
I got this board on the way with a AXP 2800 / 9700pro / and 2 256mb sticks of XMS 3500. Now I kinda wish that I would have waited till the 1.1rev or so . Oh well no guts no glory :D
JC