If those sticks are stable enough to pass 3DMark and perhaps some clean testing in memtest86 then they should be within 1-3Mhz of a full 32mb superpi.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
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If those sticks are stable enough to pass 3DMark and perhaps some clean testing in memtest86 then they should be within 1-3Mhz of a full 32mb superpi.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
I noticed that you ran it at 2-2-10-2... does that lower bandwidth by much to lower the tRAS from 6 to 10?
I don't know, sandra was being dumb, it varied 30 points every time I ran the test 3 times at a certain tras, I was messing around with 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10, I just happen to play with 2 and then 10 to hopefully see if there was actually a difference, far as I can tell, 2 and 10 are almost the same., also, it doesn't like 0, hehe, I'm temped to not use sandra at all. I think sandra cannot bench correctly on my system, I lost like 200 points of bandwidth, then gained it back, then 2 hours later lost it again, I can only explain this by saying that sandra simply doesn't work corrrectly, so I started running 3dmark benches instead, heh. I'll just run the tightest timings possible. my theroy is 10 is prob more stable though. since I can't rely on sandra, I'll have to do some memtest benches too now, so I'll add that on too. I hate it when you can't interpet information or don't get a good picture to hypothesize what's going on.
Anyone know where I can get the 64 bit version? this would prob help me out.
I've updated the thread with my optimal timings for my system. try at your own risk, hehe.
I have also come to the conclusion I cannot use my version of sandra, I'll have to use the most updated one, I have studied everyone elses screen shots of sandra benches, they are not all messed up like mine. ie : the info at the top matches the info at the bottom.
well I just did some surgery on my cpu, no it didn't help my htt, but I can super pi all damn day now at 2.7 gigs with only 1.4 in bios now, also 10c cooler :) Can't wait for water...........
On a side note, I'll be using bios 510-2 now and see if I gain anything, I'll post the results in the main post also just so ppl can see a good comparison. I did gain like 5 htt going from 2-17 to 510-2 using my gskill LE. I'm wondering if it will help my redline also, hopefully that dumb "windows has recovered from a serious error" boot up error doesn't creep up on me, I found a fix for it anyway I think. Also, looks like ram burn in is helping me slowly but surely. I have gained
1 fsb only max htt, but the good news is, my stable HTT has gone up 2 HTT. All I have been doing is running memtest # 8 when I go to sleep and go to work @ 3.5 volts in bios fyi. I was a bit afraid there was no more headroom in these sticks, looks like there is, if I gain a few more HTT, I'll be satisfied as I am not interested in suicide HTT shots much.
Is it me or does Mushkin always seem to sell 1 slow stick and 1 fast stick in a pair :confused: Looks that way from your results fareastgq :(
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Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
Not only mushkin, but Gskill, OCZ, and many other also packed the pair like that....I suppose they're trying to save some money and even out the overall performance instead of down-rated the slower sticks from say pc3500 to pc3200. The gap and differences may vary but most of them are between 1~5mhz. :D :D
yeah, it sucks, it's like they are doing it on purpose so ppl buy more sticks. We are victims! Ben, I JUST ran a superpi 16m, my time was crap though I think 13m 54.87 for a 16m superpi at 2.7 gigs, 31.531 for the 1m superpi sucks I think, of course, I don't know, first time i have ran it, heh. good news is, it's only 1.4 volts in bios (1.36 in cpu-z). Looks like my cpu really did benefit from a face lift. I ran it multiple times just to make sure I wasn't kidding myself, heh. Unforutnately my max 0c didn't go up, I hope I didn't hit a wall at 2970 at 1.7 volts....
Can you run 4 sticks together and compare overclockability and performance with only 2 sticks?
superpi depend heavily on memory timing, you'll need to tighten up some of those settings for better score.Quote:
Originally Posted by fareastgq
Only 1->5Mhz?! Considering they run at over their rated speed still, there would hardly be any need to down-bin them. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
:rofl: Hardly victims... do you know how hard it would be to match sticks at OC speeds within 1Mhz? The cost would likely have to double.... or more. No way I would wish to pay the $ for such matching. Let's be realistic... if they both do rated speeds we got what we paid for, anything above that is gravy ;) Would be like crying "victim" or "plot" because some CPUs clock higher than others...Quote:
Originally Posted by fareastqq
Peace :toast:
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Originally Posted by EMC2
agreed, and I found only 1mhz difference with my Redline..... :D :D :D
I was kidding when I said we were victims, heh, also, when I flshed to bios 5-10-2 my sticks appear to be dead.... hrm. hopefully, I can revive them, nothing appears to have burnt up.
As I suspsected, the ram was ok, flashed back to bios 2-17, (with a stick of plain pc2100), powered off comp, changed jumper back to 3.3v, cleared cmos, put 1 stick of redline in, booted up fine, powered down, took it out, put the other one in, booted fine, put them both in, they are fine. Fired it right back up again, hehe. I'll have to try bios 5-10-2 again. Hopefully, this doesn't happen again. Also guys, I have seen dead sticks of UTT before (my own), you may want to check the gold fingers on the ram for damage, I could actually see burnt fingers, I suspsect THIS is what actually happens when a stick dies, if you do not see this on your sticks, don't be so quick to rma them yet. My sticks of redline, MB beeped like both sticks were dead. I'm sure many ppl have experienced the same thing, but it's hard for me to believe that the stick actually died after inspecting the gold fingers. ( would have inspected the traces too if I could have seen them) because in my experience, it's hard as hell to kill ram unless u put 3.6+ volts into it. Not saying it isn't possible, just saying make sure u check every other possibility first. :) Back to your super pi dream ben :)
Ettis, I would run it if I could, I only have 3 sticks of redline now, the rest are someone else's now, 2t performance with 4 sticks would have been nice to see, I would have tested it for u too, check out threads of ppl that have ran 4 dimms :)
edit : I had this problem happen with bios 2-17 too, only diff is, with 2-17 if I raise the chipset volts and ldt volts, I CAN boot with either stick, on bios 5-10-2, I cannot boot with 1 stick, can boot with the other stick, then sometimes cannot boot with the stick that I just booted with, what does this imply? this is all conjecture, but the bios is flakey imo, it's not doing somthing right in reguards to voltage, I was able to reproduce this 3 times. I don't claim to know what's happening, I just claim to know what I have experienced. bios 2-17 is still the best bios imo. My other suspicsion is the voltage on the board, prob a combination of these 2 things, 2-17 seems to know how to handle the volts better though reguardless of what is in the bios.
anyone want to see A64 X2 and 4x512mb Redline performance?
Ask me nicely and I might comply ehhe!
Actually, I'll do it anyway b/c I'm curious.
I think I drank some bad OJ this AM :O.
Is the redline BH-5 or CH-5?
yep post it, hehe, I'm almost tempted to sell this chip and get some dual core 2 MB action going, just for the hell of it, hehe. I believe it's ch-5, mushkin's site should be able to tell u.Quote:
Originally Posted by JNav89GT
I don't think Mushkin is going to name IC b/c then if they have to switch everybody will get their panties in a bundle
X2 lovin is the cure though baby! For whatever itch you need to scratch that is ;)
Sorry Ben, u can bug Vapor now, Muahahahhahaa!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
Redline CH - confirmed with MushkinQuote:
Originally Posted by uscfan