Cool! I am most interested in real life gaming performance. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wickedld9
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Cool! I am most interested in real life gaming performance. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wickedld9
Boy, you guys are doing better than me. If I try to populate slots 3 and/or 4 on my neo2 Platinum, my machine wont even post, regardless of speed and memory timings.
The system in my sig does run good with only 2x512 though. Super Pi 32M is 25:16, so the San Diego is truly the "Poor mans FX".
Hoot
Here is my system showing 4x512M fast and SuperPI32 stable.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...PIshowCPUZ.jpg
Im now in the voltage lowering phase, dropping each voltage in the system to the lowest it is stable at.
The only way you are going to utilize more than 1Gb is if you run 2 clients of an MMORPG...Lineage 2 is more intensive than either of those 2 and it doesn't need anywhere near 2Gb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filter
Nice job wickedld9. I would love to see your numbers just as a comparison. My new sandy showed up today, still waiting on the memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by wickedld9
What I information I do have to share...
Only thing I changed was enabling T2 between tests.
Winny 3500+ (512x2 OCZ VX @ 3.2V 2-2-2-5)
Everest
Read T1 6574 T2 6299
Write T1 2810 T2 2170
Latency T1 40.0ns T2 45.2ns
3Dmark01 T1 26738 T2 26560
Aquamark3 T1 76,750 T2 74,220
BF1942 @ (1600 x 1200 no AA no AF)
T1 Avg FPS 101
T2 Avg FPS 99
Couldn't tell the difference with BF.
Hope to test a few more games later this weekend.
Hmm, seems there's really NOTHING to worry aout 2T in the real world then. That's good news :) Thanks for those figures K Man, very enlightening.
K Man, can u post ur cpu and mem-clocks and ur vidcard plz?
id like to know if ur limited by ur graphics card, cuz esp. 3dmark01 would suffer dramatically from 2T on nforce2 rigs.
I also noticed this.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_1
I'm using 4x512, and was using only 2 of the same rams at 1T. When i put the other 2, I can't confirm, but i think my 3dmark 2001 increased 100 points. If not, i'm sure it didn't decreased.
So the 4x interleaving makes up for 1t bigtime.
If you think about it, it kind off makes sense. With 2t you'll only be able to send a command every 2 cycles, but having 2dimms working on even cycles, and the other 2 on odd cycles, in a optimum ram accessing environment, would make for a virtual 1t.
Don't know if it really acts like this tough...
uuh, isnt interleaving per bank?
-2x256mb (single banked) -> 2 banks -> 2x interleaving
-4x256mb (single banked) -> 4 banks -> 4x interleaving
-2x512mb (double banked) -> 4 banks -> 4x interleaving
-4x512mb (double banked) -> 8 banks -> but still 4x interleaving
... so afaik ur running 4x interleaving with 2x512mb already
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Originally Posted by [-Stash-]
Nope just the drop in Sandra and Everest which calculate bandwidth, real world apps show a slight drop but is a few frames worth worrying over? I'd rather have 2GB of memory installed anyways. 1T is great up till the point your HD starts thrashing!!
Dean
As anyone playing BF2 will tel you right about now ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
So now I really have to decide whether I buy 2 more 512MB sticks of Crucial Ballistix PC3200, try and mix and match with 2 sticks of BH-5 KHX PC3000 I have lying around, or flog all of it and get something like Corsair 2GB DDR XMS3200C2PT TwinX, with timings of 2-3-3-6.
Decisions, decisions.
I run 3x256mb sticks in my DFI UT
This is definately faster in games than 2x256 even at 2T timings.
Der_KHAN;
From the time of my last post I have upgraded my memory to 2GB of OCZ VX (4x512) two sticks of 3200 and two sticks of 4000. So far they play well together. Will replace the 3200 with 4000 later this month as the 3200 doesn't like to go much above 210. Using a 180 memory divider so memory is running at about 205 so the 3200 is happy. Replaced my CPU with an AMD64 SD 4000+ running with 12 multi. 240FSB seems to be limit before windows bluescreens. Currently I am running a ATI x850XT @ 560 core / 600 memory. I am very green at AMD overclocking so I might very well have setting in the BIOS out of wack that could be having a negiative results.
Please let me know if I have left anything out.
K Man
Thinking of picking up 1 more 512 stick of gskill to put me up to 1.5 gig after reading this..
One thing i have'nt seen mentioned is dual channel? dont you lose that with 3/4 stick's?
Big improvement going from 1GB to 2GB with Battlefield 2. Maps load faster and there is no ingame studdering (at least for me). With all video setting at High, 4x AA, 1200x960 @ 100Hz bf2.exe chews up 1.82GB of memory according to the task manager in Windows. If you drop down to medium setting the program maxs out at 1GB to 1.1GB. I was playing the demo with only 1GB and my harddrive was getting a workout, plus a lot of studdering at the start of games.Quote:
Originally Posted by [-Stash-]
Add another gig (drop to 2T timing) and it plays smooth as butter.
Can anyone recommend some good single sided 2x1GB DDR?
Yup, running 4x512 mushkin redline @ 250 3.2v and bf2 is smooth as silk. But the game crashes to desktop often with my x850xt but my venice/6800U AGP it doesnt CTD too often. :cussing:Quote:
Originally Posted by The K Man
Hey,
Ok I have a MSI Neo4 Plat and a winchester 3500.
Right im running 2x512 of this Ocz ram
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...0_dual_channel
And I wanted to upgrade too another gig or ram. So to be able to run dual channel and 4x512 of that ocz ram on my winchester 3500 all I have to do is go into the bios and set the ram to 2T?
Is there anything else or is that it?
Thanks!
Winchester doesn't have the same memory controller that venice haves, so it's not shure you can run >200MHz on the memories with that cpu.. i've seen a few people (often with dfi nForce4) running >200MHz with winchester, but also i've seen a few people unable to boot.. this is even that we are talking T2...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin
Sure if you play with the video settings turned down. BF1 alone would hit 700MB of memory on my machine. BF2 can hit 1400MB+ on large maps. 1.5GB is the minimum if you're going to play big maps with high quality settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filter
i think ur results are alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by The K Man
ive made a quick comparison between 1T and 2T in 3dmark 01 myself, cuz this is the most ram-dependant 3d benchmark i know (running SD 255x11 VX@1.5-2-2-5, x850xt@pe clocks)
1T 31.183
2T 30.864
so 2T really offers 98.97% of 1T performance :slobber:
but as i said before the mem-controller on nforce2 boards massively looses performance with 2T.
it would be interesting to know if only the latest mem-controller on san diego and venice cores performs that way or if its the same with winchesters, newcastles and clawhamers.