"Grouper" first look

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05-31-2005, 02:04 PM
Ubermann

Thank you alot bigtoe!
Finally new info about a board we have been waiting for like, ehh 3-4 month ??
05-31-2005, 02:07 PM
Badong

Thanks for the info Tony. Looks great so far!
Does the integrated video handicap overclocking in any way?
05-31-2005, 02:07 PM
Vapor

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Originally Posted by bigtoe

Its you..max vdimm is 4V

Then how exactly does it work? Any combination of the two values, but anything set at over 4v just won't work?
05-31-2005, 02:14 PM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor

Then how exactly does it work? Any combination of the two values, but anything set at over 4v just won't work?

the other value is VTT..you can swing it either way of Vdimm/2 by upto 10% or so in tiny steps. So you could set 3vdimm so VTT at 0% would be 1.5V, now you set -5.5% for 1.4175V...you see what I mean?
05-31-2005, 02:14 PM
Badong

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor

Then how exactly does it work? Any combination of the two values, but anything set at over 4v just won't work?

These are two different settings. vDimm is the actual memory voltage and Vtt tracking should be 1/2 of vDimm.
05-31-2005, 02:16 PM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badong

Thanks for the info Tony. Looks great so far!
Does the integrated video handicap overclocking in any way?

I haven't used it but Im assured it does not, you also can overclock the onboard if you wish. There is a surround view option which was present on the bullhead also, if you want a multi monitor setup on the cheap this may be the board for you.
05-31-2005, 02:22 PM
Ubermann

http://www.sapphiretech.com/ has press release about dual GPU but i cant get it to work.
Tony do you know if they will make a board for us that has all this options and features AND dual GPU ?
Its so much happening right now and choosing a single GPU boards might not be the best choice when we have Crossfire all over internet for the moment.
05-31-2005, 02:23 PM
M1nDH4cK

Uhmm : 1.45 V = max Vcore ?
05-31-2005, 02:30 PM
Minstadave

Quote:

Originally Posted by M1nDH4cK

Uhmm : 1.45 V = max Vcore ?

No theres two voltage values, a Vcore value and a +Vcore modifier.
05-31-2005, 02:34 PM
cadaveca

scaling vtt from bios...... :slobber:

Many more thanks for THOSE pics, bigtoe. now i'm just disappointed ic an't go and buy one right now... :rolleyes:
05-31-2005, 02:53 PM
[XC] moddolicous

wow, it looks like this board has everything. Cant wait for it to come out.
05-31-2005, 03:11 PM
LowRun

Thanks for the knews bigtoe, can't wait to see what kind of performance one can pull out of this beauty. The fact it's not finalized yet means we probably won't see them on the shelves for a good while tho' :(
05-31-2005, 03:15 PM
Charles Wirth

Thanks Tony, looking good.

Does that board have voltage and temp monitoring in bios?
05-31-2005, 03:26 PM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUGGER

Thanks Tony, looking good.

Does that board have voltage and temp monitoring in bios?

If it does i can't find it in this bios..LOL, it is an engineering sample though so it may just be something they overlooked. i do have temps in XP so the monitor IC is there ready.
05-31-2005, 03:27 PM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ubermann

http://www.sapphiretech.com/ has press release about dual GPU but i cant get it to work.
Tony do you know if they will make a board for us that has all this options and features AND dual GPU ?
Its so much happening right now and choosing a single GPU boards might not be the best choice when we have Crossfire all over internet for the moment.

There is a crossfire version of this board, it has ALL the same overclocking options as you see here ;)
05-31-2005, 03:28 PM
Nettwerk

Oh man im gonna get this mobo with those DD ati waterblocks a cmstacker and weapon heatercore I cant wait!
05-31-2005, 03:53 PM
EMC2

Thanks for the look see :toast:

Several very interesting options... and it looks like they are using a switcher for the mem voltages :D Hmmmmm.....
05-31-2005, 04:22 PM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by EMC2

Thanks for the look see :toast:

Several very interesting options... and it looks like they are using a switcher for the mem voltages :D Hmmmmm.....

The board is real cool, by that i mean next to nothing gets real hot even at 3.6V. The vdimm has the capability to deliver 40A im told so its not stressed much.
05-31-2005, 04:30 PM
cadaveca

40A? not many PSU's supply that on the 5v...LoL. It would be overkill, if it weren't meant for overclocking, i guess.
05-31-2005, 04:37 PM
blinky

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

OMG. Finally a board with as many, if not more options than the DFI. I wonder if the DFI board will copy some of these options and incorporate them into their boards. I like the % addition to the Vdimm, very cool. Some stuff on there I have no clue what it is either. I like the additional voltage options for the PCIE bus as well something else the DFI doesn't have.

thats not a % addition to vdimm, that is Vtt voltage, which is different.

IIRC its like the difference between VDD and VDDQ in GDDR
05-31-2005, 05:10 PM
cantankerous

hehehe you know, I thought that at first but then thought nah, can't be that option in a bios so thought it was what I mentioned above. It truly is cool to have VTT track in bios.
05-31-2005, 05:48 PM
EMC2

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtoe

The board is real cool, by that i mean next to nothing gets real hot even at 3.6V. The vdimm has the capability to deliver 40A im told so its not stressed much.

You might want to question whoever gave you that figure... :hehe: The switcher's inductor doesn't look big enough in the pic for 40A continuous... maybe 20A... 25A max.

Would it be possible to get a close up shot of the area of the board with the Vmem/Vtt regulator? And a full shot of the back of the board?

Peace :toast:
05-31-2005, 05:55 PM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by EMC2

You might want to question whoever gave you that figure... :hehe: The switcher's inductor doesn't look big enough in the pic for 40A continuous... maybe 20A... 25A max.

Would it be possible to get a close up shot of the area of the board with the Vmem/Vtt regulator? And a full shot of the back of the board?

Peace :toast:

your asking for a lot there m8.;) ATI gave me the figures although they are peak i feel. I can tell you under 100% memory load im only seeing 35C max on any component around the vdimm section.
05-31-2005, 06:01 PM
craig588

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

40A? not many PSU's supply that on the 5v...LoL. It would be overkill, if it weren't meant for overclocking, i guess.

2.5V*40A = 100 watts

Memory sticks are rated at something like 15-20 watts per stick of 512M, no? With 4 sticks you are almost at your limit, start increasing the voltage and the amperage handling capability goes down, along with the wattage handling capability because of the extra heat making them less effeciant.
05-31-2005, 06:10 PM
WeStSiDePLaYa

im thinking i will have to get a board like this when i goto 939.

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