I agree, my TV tuner card works flawless here at 200FSB, and it didn't work at 50Mhz PCI on my KR7A.
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I agree, my TV tuner card works flawless here at 200FSB, and it didn't work at 50Mhz PCI on my KR7A.
That means I must have one on my 8k3a+ also since i can boot into windows at 220fsb and all my pci cards work. Yipeee .
On a serious note, if it does have a pci and agp lock what is holding it back from 250fsb. I know some of the corsair can handle it so what else on the nforce 2 board is causing the lack of high sync overclocks. Can the chipset not handle it or is it something else causing the problem like the hypertransport bus. I've been keeping an eye on these bards and so far I'm still not impressed in the least at their overclockability.
LOL! :)Quote:
Originally posted by Wolf
That means I must have one on my 8k3a+ also since i can boot into windows at 220fsb and all my pci cards work. Yipeee .
But that's exactly my point. Although I do believe that all NF2 boards have the PCI locked at 33MHz, until somebody measures it with a hardware monitor there will always be room for argument...:rolleyes:
I think i just might gey the epox since my asus nf2 f'ed its bios and won't boot any more. Do athlons care about what fsb is running as long as their clock speed is ddefault. What i mean is can a cpu be stable at stock fsb and speed but not at a really high fsb and still stock speed? I am of course diregarding all other hardware that could be a problem and taking cpu overclocking out of the question. So theoredically take a new 2600+ and wil it be stable at a 250fsb we a multi that will give it a clock speed of 2ghz?
I have yet to see a cpu limited by fsb. I had a duron 650 that would run at over 200fsb so take that as you want. IMO it's all up to the chipset and the ram. The cpus can handle it no problem. I do see a lot of people blaming it on the cpu when they don't know what the problem is but I'm not buying it. Motherboard and ram manufacturers like to shift the blame to the cpu when their product can't hang at high fsb's.
the northbridge is what is holding it back. it is BOILING HOT at anything over 200fsb. especially if you are using watercooling on the cpu.Quote:
if it does have a pci and agp lock what is holding it back from 250fsb.
there have been people who ran at 250mhz (saw on AOA) but the majority either watercool the NB or run a high power fan over it.
Good to know i just might get the epox and slap a NB cooler into my loop. Although it already has a 226w peltier and r9700 block but thats another thread.Quote:
Originally posted by Emericana
the northbridge is what is holding it back. it is BOILING HOT at anything over 200fsb. especially if you are using watercooling on the cpu.
there have been people who ran at 250mhz (saw on AOA) but the majority either watercool the NB or run a high power fan over it.
Not all nforce2 boards are locked at 33.
Check overclockers.com and anandtech for their statments on this.. Anandtech got MSI to say theirs WAS NOT.
If only i had my fujitsu hard drive so I could run it at 200 FSB , this would corrupt it for sure if it was onyl a 1/5 lock ..it hates more than 37.
Sadly it died running at 42
I think this is the greatest mistery since Flight 19 :D
Regards
Andy
Well yes, but look at all the conflicting statements from manufacturers like Epox. It seems that the tech guys at most mobo companies haven't got a clue about the products that they're selling (the English-speaking tech guys anyways). :(Quote:
Originally posted by zakelwe
Check overclockers.com and anandtech for their statments on this.. Anandtech got MSI to say theirs WAS NOT.
Until somebody proves otherwise I will continue to believe that all NF2 boards are PCI locked as a function of the chipset itself. And the only way that's going to happen is with a PC Geiger or similar, not by "this piece of hardware does X fsb on motherboard Y compared to Z on a NF2" - there are too many other variables there.
I'm sure a site like Anandtech could afford the $70 price of the PC Geiger. Or borrow one. Think of all the hits they'd get on an article which sorted this out once and for all! :D
Somebody did actually run PC Geiger on this motherboard but then their results got called into question :rolleyes:
I think the evidence does point to a locked PCI bus in the Epox case, however why do they not say so ? If Asus have said so then why do Epox hide behind a NDA. NDA from who ?
Very strange behaviour.
Regards
Andy
LMAO!!! :rotf: How can you possibly question that?!?Quote:
Originally posted by zakelwe
Somebody did actually run PC Geiger on this motherboard but then their results got called into question :rolleyes:
Nvidia perhaps? I know that the MBM author is having a very hard time getting anything out of them - see here. :(Quote:
I think the evidence does point to a locked PCI bus in the Epox case, however why do they not say so ? If Asus have said so then why do Epox hide behind a NDA. NDA from who ?
Very strange behaviour.
But I suspect it's more likely that they just haven't got a clue about their own products and use that as an excuse. That tech guy is probably terrified of saying it's locked because he doesn't know and doesn't want to take the blame for all the RMA's if it later turns out it's not. :rolleyes:
Its like when u go to a store and ask for detailed specs on anyhting ranging from groceries to pci lock. The person is most likely not to know anything that technical because as u walk out of the store u see a now hiering sign. I'm in highschool (well almost out) and i know a lot of people from school that work at best buy ect. and know jack §§§§ about the products they are saying. The tech guys are just the same!!!!! They can at best help u get an RMA. Or like asus tech support they can tell u that it is ATI that causes all your problems. U know that ati card that works on all the other mobos i had it in. Sorry for rambling but i had to get my tech support feelings off my chest. =) u might be lucky and get a tech that does know his roducts. I'm sure some gurus and overclockers hold jobs like that.. lol if they have time outside of oc'ing
I work at Best Buy and I'm in here, and consider myself a pretty knowledgable computer person, and a decent overclocker... I have noticed though that most people with similar jobs don't seem to know much about what they are selling...Quote:
Originally posted by PimpJack
Its like when u go to a store and ask for detailed specs on anyhting ranging from groceries to pci lock. The person is most likely not to know anything that technical because as u walk out of the store u see a now hiering sign. I'm in highschool (well almost out) and i know a lot of people from school that work at best buy ect. and know jack §§§§ about the products they are saying. The tech guys are just the same!!!!! They can at best help u get an RMA. Or like asus tech support they can tell u that it is ATI that causes all your problems. U know that ati card that works on all the other mobos i had it in. Sorry for rambling but i had to get my tech support feelings off my chest. =) u might be lucky and get a tech that does know his roducts. I'm sure some gurus and overclockers hold jobs like that.. lol if they have time outside of oc'ing