3700+ San Diego (review) and 4000+ Clawhammer comparison

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04-21-2005, 09:48 AM
cpulloverclock

3GHz stable on wc is good

better than a FX-55 0.13
04-21-2005, 09:55 AM
bachus_anonym

When you guys get a chance while testing that 3700+, can you run Prime95 Blend for even 2hrs? I'm just wondering how far down it will be needed to go to get that kind of stability? Will 2900MHz happen?

Like, I can do flip-flops in and slightly above 3GHz area with Winie but Prime95 stability stops @ 2.86GHz, two hours at least ;)

Thanks
04-21-2005, 10:00 AM
cpulloverclock

Quote:

Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

When you guys get a chance while testing that 3700+, can you run Prime95 Blend for even 2hrs? I'm just wondering how far down it will be needed to go to get that kind of stability? Will 2900MHz happen?

Like, I can do flip-flops in and slightly above 3GHz area with Winie but Prime95 stability stops @ 2.86GHz, two hours at least ;)

Thanks

1.55 is the highest vcore to have an increase with is 3700+
04-21-2005, 10:10 AM
Gogeta

At 1.7v I bet that chip would easily hit 3.4Ghz on a single stage. Thanks for the review Misteroadster. :toast:
04-21-2005, 10:12 AM
cpulloverclock

I know a guy who will have a 4000+ .09 tomorrow
but he'll test on brutal WC
04-21-2005, 10:13 AM
cpulloverclock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogeta

At 1.7v I bet that chip would easily hit 3.4Ghz on a single stage. Thanks for the review Misteroadster. :toast:

but the 3700+ dont take 1.7v
perhaps another yup
perhaps another nop
04-21-2005, 10:36 AM
IvanAndreevich

Nice quick results. Looking forward to the comparison.
04-21-2005, 10:38 AM
notoriousformula

Dang! Nice results! :drool:
04-21-2005, 10:53 AM
misteroadster

For sure , those results aren't revolutionnary, but don't forget they're better than the results given by a 1000$ chips.
This one will cost approximatively 350$, imagine what the FX57 will have to give to be the king :slobber:
This 3700+ could be any FX55 0.09 without any doubt. :clap:
04-21-2005, 11:11 AM
Gogeta

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpulloverclock

but the 3700+ dont take 1.7v
perhaps another yup
perhaps another nop

Oh. I didn't know the voltage tolerance had changed so much from the Winchester core. :confused:
04-21-2005, 11:30 AM
perry_78

Even with the new smileys (for the worse of course :)), I don't find a smiley that drools over 2 pages :D

Very very nice. If the price is indeed around the $350 in DK, I think I know where my pay check is going. Goodbye Wacken Open Air!
04-21-2005, 11:33 AM
gocchin

Quote:

Originally Posted by misteroadster

Yes , this chips performs and overclocks a little better than my FX55 !!
Same improvements than Newcastle->Winchesters.
Better in superpi, CpuMark, Games ....Everywhere; not a huge but better.
All i can say is "FX55 owners, you can sell yours babies now, it will be hard soon"
Mine is already sold :D

Hehe I already sold mine too :)
04-21-2005, 11:36 AM
computersmsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpulloverclock

I know a guy who will have a 4000+ .09 tomorrow
but he'll test on brutal WC

It's me :D

Waterchiller will maybe OK this Week end too :)
04-21-2005, 11:40 AM
cpulloverclock

Quote:

Originally Posted by computersmsa

It's me :D

Waterchiller will maybe OK this Week end too :)

tomorrow cuz I must do a choice between a 3700+ and 4000+ before saturday
04-21-2005, 11:46 AM
misteroadster

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogeta

Oh. I didn't know the voltage tolerance had changed so much from the Winchester core. :confused:

Tolerance is about the same.

-San diego 0505EPMW
-My winnie 0448SPAW

Default SD vcore is 1.35V max benchable 1.55-56V= +0.2v
Default Winnies Vcore is 1.40 max benchable 1.60-61V= +0.2v

I have an 0448SMPW , so funny : increasing vcore is useless (+0.1Max =30Mhz lol) in aircooling but 2720 Rock Prime 1.4v :rolleyes:
04-21-2005, 11:55 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by misteroadster

For sure , those results aren't revolutionnary, but don't forget they're better than the results given by a 1000$ chips.
This one will cost approximatively 350$, imagine what the FX57 will have to give to be the king :slobber:
This 3700+ could be any FX55 0.09 without any doubt. :clap:

bloody awesome... me wants 2 of these hehe :D
04-21-2005, 11:58 AM
charlie

For $350, it's nice... and my 0448 FX went 3006mHz 3D stable on AIR with 15C ambient... so to me, 31xx on water is good, but not "breathtaking". Now, the FX57, the first FX on the 90nM platform, I expect to be a ROCKET. Either way, I have a 4000+ pre-ordered so I'll be able to play.

C
04-21-2005, 12:04 PM
nordik

Time to pre-order myself a 3700+ :D :D :woot:
04-21-2005, 12:10 PM
Rubescen

I thought the FX-57 share the same core as these San Diego no? if they are then I doubt the FX-57 would be that much(if any) better OC'er than the 3700 SD? But still...if 2.9 or 3.0 can be done on air then I still think it's mucho nice! infact, 700~800mhz gain is excellent! sure beat paying $1000 for the FX-57 :D
04-21-2005, 12:10 PM
Bennah

Nice work there misterroadster... thanks for sharing :toast:

Remember Charlie, thats only one 3700+ they might clocked worse or better who knows. We would just have to see.

Im tempted by the San Deigo's but it would only be to buy a 4000+ or higher ;):D
04-21-2005, 12:13 PM
R.Rabbit

looks sweet, to bad its still out of my price range!!
04-21-2005, 02:32 PM
s7e9h3n

I say compare the numbers on the 3700+ to the numbers from my Venice (now Bennah's) 3800+. I haven't got a chance to look through the link, but from what's being said here, it looks as if they're very similar in OC'd performance....
04-21-2005, 02:54 PM
Bennah

well its the extra 200mhz vs. the extra 512kb cache...
04-21-2005, 03:00 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bennah

well its the extra 200mhz vs. the extra 512kb cache...

So what's the impact in terms of performance/benchmarks?
04-21-2005, 06:47 PM
EMC2

Interesting results, thanks for sharing :toast:

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