Dual Core AMD Opteron. First screenshot!

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Originally Posted by VVJ

Not long ago I have signed NDA and I very proud of this. Therefore I’m afraid of to lost it, because it cost a lot.


Soon you’ll understand you are mistaken :)


No it is not! VCore is 1.200V. Today, I’ll try to post a little more info regarding this CPU.


Do you know something about OSP suffix? I’m not you do :) Besides, FAA encodes not core revision, the last two letters encode the revision. The A-voltage defines a variable voltage, not definite as you suppose. For example, it may be 1.200V or 1.250V. The letter F says that CPU uses a new organic package.


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I would be very happy to be wrong, trust me.

But if 68W is possible with the 275, why aren't they releasing the 280 right now, too?

Also, I didn't claim that FAA encoded the core revision.

OSP is the prefix for DC Opteron. I can accept that, as OSA is the prefix for SC Opteron.

Next we have FAA.

F = organic package, like the Rev E4 Opterons.
A = voltage
A = die case max temp of 71 C

Then 6CB.

6 = 2MB total L2
"CB" is the core revision. I could believe that stands for E6 dual core.

My trouble is with the "A" voltage line. For single core E4 parts, that signifies either 1.35v or 1.4v.

So you are telling me that the A really only means "variable"... Hmmm.

I suppose that is possible.

It seems odd, though, that they would not want to be more specific, doesn't it?

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Also, were you joking when you said AMD gave you permission to post information about the 275 before the NDA expires on Thursday? Because why would AMD do that?

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Regarding 68W... I suppose if AMD can produce 35W 2.2GHz Turions, then a 68W 2.2GHz DC Opteron 275 is not out of the question.

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Originally Posted by terrace215

Regarding 68W... I suppose if AMD can produce 35W 2.2GHz Turions, then a 68W 2.2GHz DC Opteron 275 is not out of the question.

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Yep, which acutally is sort of wierd, i think AMD should have went with the slapped together core design like intel. Other then the HT links being connected, there is not much diffrence. Plus you can bin the chips MUCH more effiecently.

that is look so nice :slobber:

terrace215:

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But if 68W is possible with the 275, why aren't they releasing the 280 right now, too?

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Don’t forget about low-power AMD Opteron HE and EE processors having an extremely low TDP of 55W and 30W respectively.

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OSP is the prefix for DC Opteron. I can accept that, as OSA is the prefix for SC Opteron.

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As far as I know, an OPN number of the newest Opteron processors doesn’t contain a letter that points to the dual core presence. Perhaps, new model numbers x65, x70, x75 point to this.

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My trouble is with the "A" voltage line. For single core E4 parts, that signifies either 1.35v or 1.4v. So you are telling me that the A really only means "variable"... Hmmm.

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Also, were you joking when you said AMD gave you permission to post information about the 275 before the NDA expires on Thursday? Because why would AMD do that?

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A man who works in the AMD Connectivity Solutions Group ask me to make a very sexual surprise for Intel :D By the way, he is a registered member on this forum :)

ooooooh GIMME!!! I WANT!

any word on prices?

are they really going to be $1600?

Awesome chip, but that price is a bit extreme.

Thanks for the sneak peek VVJ. Much appreciated. :D

the prices looks way to high right now, hopefully they will drop a bit :slobber:

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Originally Posted by VVJ

terrace215:
A man who works in the AMD Connectivity Solutions Group ask me to make a very sexual surprise for Intel :D By the way, he is a registered member on this forum :)

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that has to be Pedro.

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Originally Posted by metro_oc.cl

its socket 940, one more pin.


great info, hope you can show some benchs soon

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I know, I was asking if anybody knows if there might be a socket939 variant....

It's impressive but it isn't the first screenshot. HKEPC has a little preview here:
http://www.hkepc.com/hwdb/dualcore-opteron-3.htm

They also show a pair of these in a dual config, how about this?
http://www.hkepc.com/hwdb/dualcore-o.../4coretest.jpg

These are Opteron 866 on Egypt core.

Egypt, Italy, lol AMD is funny

And Turion64 over IDF or whatever it was haha, they have a good sense of humor.

wwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cries the dual core p4 @ 2 x2.8 ghz and running @ 244 watts . :slapass: :slapass: :shocked: :moon:

11x200
htt link x5

HYPER THREADING - i thought only intel done this?

Guys, I’ll try to post a new screenshot of the P-States tab this evening if I’ll be provided, of course. It’s seems the processor fully supports Cool’n‘Quiet technology and even has some performance states.

But what about Opteron 175...just as there was the 150/152 opterons ???

Perkam

i saw in a post while ago that amd enable some instructions like the ones HT has just to take advantages in programs that uses HT right now so this chips will gain perfomance is that programs.

the cores have city names and country names...

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Originally Posted by VVJ

terrace215:
A man who works in the AMD Connectivity Solutions Group ask me to make a very sexual surprise for Intel :D By the way, he is a registered member on this forum :)

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THAT is hilarious. Take that Intel. Sexual indeed - most of us here would agree. And that HT bit include is brilliant. *goes to change avatar*

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Originally Posted by leviathan18

i saw in a post while ago that amd enable some instructions like the ones HT has just to take advantages in programs that uses HT right now so this chips will gain perfomance is that programs.

the cores have city names and country names...

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Righty-o

http://www.x86-secret.com/?option=newsd&nid=870

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Originally Posted by Clew

It's impressive but it isn't the first screenshot. HKEPC has a little preview here:
http://www.hkepc.com/hwdb/dualcore-opteron-3.htm

They also show a pair of these in a dual config, how about this?

These are Opteron 866 on Egypt core.

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Yeah, and for those, DC Opteron 875 (866 was the old name), voltage is 1.35v. OTOH, that chip was made late last year, so it is possible that DSL was not incorporated yet, hence a newer 275 could have the lower voltage of 1.2v shown above.

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Originally Posted by perkam

THe idea is slick, but compatibility would be the last of AMD's worries. It's patented by Intel....so I smell a lawsuit...and a big one. Only that AMD knows that if Intel does pursues that route, it has its own case against Intel's monopolizing influence in the market which could get Intel into a VERY sticky situation.

Perkam

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Intel and AMD have a technology sharing agreement, like how the Pentium 4 6xx series uses AMD's x64 instruction set and how the a64 uses SSE and SSE2, and how the new a64 x2 uses SSE3.

http://www.dvhardware.net/article2053.html

Edit: Looks like someone beat me to it, I should have read the whole tread...commence with the :slapass:

Hi guys! As I promised before, here is another portion of sweet screenshots!

As you can see, the processor is in the minimum power state:

http://cbid.amdclub.ru/work/CBId01.gif

and more interesting screenshot reports its three performance states…

http://cbid.amdclub.ru/work/CBId02.gif

The maximum TCase spec is 71 Celsius degree.

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Originally Posted by perkam

THe idea is slick, but compatibility would be the last of AMD's worries. It's patented by Intel....so I smell a lawsuit...and a big one. Only that AMD knows that if Intel does pursues that route, it has its own case against Intel's monopolizing influence in the market which could get Intel into a VERY sticky situation.

Perkam

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maybe this isn't "HT" per se, but pacifica? i thought pacifica wasn't for a while?
maybe its a similar technology that just has the bit enabled, so that brain reads it as HT... there are many ways for AMD to get around the litigation

(i love the 'sexual suprise' for intel... )

i'm taking that as meaning this suprise for intel is the 1.2v and the HT: Yes portions

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Originally Posted by VVJ

Hi guys! As I promised before, here is another portion of sweet screenshots!

As you can see, the processor is in the minimum power state:

and more interesting screenshot reports its three performance states…

The maximum TCase spec is 71 Celsius degree.

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If you are allowed, can you tell us if this DC Opteron 275 is a special "low power" 275 that AMD will be selling (like Opteron HE or Opteron EE, although I wasn't expecting that at 2.2GHz), or will ALL DC Opteron 275's run at 1.2v and have a 68W TDP?

thanks.

Intel HT = HyperThreading, A method of splittings pipelines into seperate proccesses

AMD HT = HyperTransport, A physical communication link like PCI, SATA, etc, that connects processors together and processors to the chipset. Your 939 has an HT link between the processor and the chipset.

There will be a dual-core 939, that information is posted on AMD's website.

AMD uses a different type of manufacturing process that creates very low power, very low voltage components. I believe they develope it with IBM (partners).

AMD is reporting very high yields on their processors.

The pricing strategy is such that a dual core will be slightly cheaper than two single cores. This is to make as much money as possible (you want AMD to do that so they can afford more R&D). This strategy is being applied to the server/enterprise market (big companies). No home user is going to want to buy opterons anyway. There is no telling what the pricing strategy will be for 939.

939 should be out in a couple months, June I believe.