AMD Turion 64 2800+ First Look!!

wow, with the voltage there you could have a silent but powerful system...

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21613

You made it to the inquirer!!!
Look how they mispelled our sites name. "OUR FRIENDS at Extreme Systems managed to get a picture and some basic test of AMD's upcoming Centrino killer."

Must not be very good friends if they can't even manage to spell the sites name correctly lol.


So basically this is an Oakville with 1MB L2 and runs with lower volts.

Default voltage is still the same as Oakville, but looks like because of tweaks in revision E0 it is able to run at very low voltages, and because of this should probably OC well. :)

Anything known about when they will hit the market?
Will they run on every Motherboard? (with the right bios) Would be great cause i have a dusty unused s754 mobo right here ;)

The only solid date I have heard is 4/18, but who knows if it's true or not.

Not all motherboards support mobiles. I've heard of people having good luck with the DFI, Chaintech VNF3-250, and MSI K8N Neo, but not really much about other S754 boards.

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Originally Posted by saaya

lol, hes not testing it and theres no way any of you will get stuff from amd to test, sorry to pop your dreams :D

just stop asking where it comes from, if he would answer your questions that somebody we are so thankfull for showing us those informations might lose his job or even get sued by amd, so just sit back and enjoy those wonderfull results :D

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Sorry saaya, just got a little curios :( . I wouldnt want the guy to lose his job over me wanting to test this kind of stuff.

trans am
Don't forget that this is E0 so SSE3, SS etc.

yeah, AMD must have there 90nm process tweaked pretty good now. Thats an early model and its doing well. but thats only one chip. So we wait and see what these things will do in the future lets hope well

jjcom

i think the s754 platform is where the true high oc's are comming from.

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Originally Posted by fr0stedflakes

Good point, I can't say I really have an arguement to that. All the other info seems to fit, though, so I really have no reason to believe they're wrong.

But notice the roadmap posted in my first post also puts the Lancasters at 35w and Semprons at 25w. Plus they appear to operate at the same voltage (K), so I don't see how TDP could be any lower unless there have been major tweaks with rev E0 to reduce heat output (look how much of a difference it made from C0 to CG, so it's possible).

Not like it really matters, though; until the product comes out, this is all speculation. :)

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But the power info doesn't fit, so you do have reason to believe it is wrong. :)

That power roadmap is old.

See here: http://aceshardware.com/forums/read_...9165&forumid=1

That's a 35 W model according to this:
http://www.x86-secret.com/index.php?...=newsd&nid=848 >> T64 ML 30 (going FX style, no more confusing P-rating, just strange codes...)

About the three letters, I think it just shows if it's desktop/DTR/low power, no TDP.

hmm wonder the voltage on that thing?

Should be 1.35v for the 35w chips. Don't know about 25w.

Mats, interesting link. Looks like this is 35w, but not for the reason I originally thought.

What I find interesting is they'll have 25w and 35w versions all the way up to 2.2GHz (3400+, I'd assume). The 2.4GHz chip will only come in 35w though. I also didn't know there would be 512kb versions.

I don't think so. 1.35v was for 35W on the AXP-Ms. So I would guess 1.3 or less for these chips.

jjcom

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Originally Posted by trans am

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21613

You made it to the inquirer!!!
Look how they mispelled our sites name. "OUR FRIENDS at Extreme Systems managed to get a picture and some basic test of AMD's upcoming Centrino killer."

Must not be very good friends if they can't even manage to spell the sites name correctly lol.


So basically this is an Oakville with 1MB L2 and runs with lower volts.

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fuad doesnt luv me anymore :(


:lol:


im pretty sure its 1.3v, a 3500+ winchester consumes around 36W of power under load, may load probably 40W or 45W ,then 1.3v should be just about right for 35W absolute max heat production/power consumption

Ii would say volts less than 1.25vcore. as my 35w newcastle is 1.25vcore

All I know is current Oakvilles have the OPN AMDxx00BKX4LB, and this new chip is TMDML30BKX5LD. According to Fab51 and all the forums I've visited K is supposed to denote 1.35v.

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Originally Posted by WeStSiDePLaYa

Ii would say volts less than 1.25vcore. as my 35w newcastle is 1.25vcore

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? 35W newcastle?

Before 90nm there were 35w low-power Newcastles. They had a default Vcore of 1.2v I believe.

At the same voltage 90nm runs cooler than 130nm though, which is the reason why they don't have to lower it to 1.2v to maintain the same 35w rating.

so the second two pics arent working... what did they contain?

wlel anything between 1.3 and 1.35v sounds about right for 35W :)

and 2ghz with 1v is truly a centrino killer! :slobber:

Yes, there are other ways of lowering power besides voltage. Different transistors, better strained silicon (e.g. DSL) for lower leakage, etc.

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Originally Posted by saaya

wlel anything between 1.3 and 1.35v sounds about right for 35W :)

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There should be 1.6GHz (2800+) and 1.8GHz (3000+) 25W parts, along with a 35W 2GHz (3200+) at launch.


Amdboard didn't copy the slide right! See here:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06...power_mobiles/

And the slide:

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:b...ient=firefox-a

You have to look closely, but many of the Lancaster parts are 25W, not 35W.

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Originally Posted by Revv23

so the second two pics arent working... what did they contain?

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http://img169.exs.cx/img169/3698/16002oh.jpg

http://img169.exs.cx/img169/5719/25003cx.jpg

wow, didnt notice it was 1mb
i want one!