"Whats the best RAM a DFI nf4 Ultra-D could have?"
The RAM I posted up there is supposed to be I believe. It created quite a stir on these forums when it came out. Read the Anandtech article.
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"Whats the best RAM a DFI nf4 Ultra-D could have?"
The RAM I posted up there is supposed to be I believe. It created quite a stir on these forums when it came out. Read the Anandtech article.
Ill do so.
Any Upcoming products I should be aware of?
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/pro...okie%5Ftest=1#
7/16" ID - 5/8" OD
I measured the PCI slot of my PC-65B and its 0.5in. wide by a hair. But the 7/16" tubing is 0.625in. thick. I have 2 solutions for this:
*Method 1: To put a 1/2" OD copper tube in the PCI slot and wrap the 7/16" tubes at each end. I may need to secure these more from leaks. Here is a pic showing my idea.
http://img32.exs.cx/img32/7266/pci29qo.jpg
*Method 2: Hmmm... What do we have here... :idea:
Looks like the space between the onboard sound card and the side that doesnt have anything could be enough to fit both tubes. :banana: Check it out:
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/3769/dfinf49rv.jpg
Are these possible solutions? :)
sounds interesting on that second idea. though i dont know if u want to have those big tubes aroundall of ur plugs. may be a pita..
the copper tube idea is interesting as well. just make sure to seal it up very good.
Damn, DDR500 at 2-2-2-5 timings......delicious
Buuuuuuuut I think G.Skill LA's PC3200 RAM can do that honestly. They are completely guaranteed by the manufacturer to run at 2.5-3-3-7 at DDR550, so I think 2-2-2-5 at DDR500 wouldn't be a problem.....however with those high voltage those OCZ can utilize especially without breaking the warrenty, then I shudder to think of the great possibilities :drool:
lol nubius. i think you got drunk and stubled into the wrong thread because there is no mention of any of those things in here.
"sold in 10 ft. intervals only." :(Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Love this board :D
It could save my life.
When i get my stuff, Ill post again to see how it goes.
Right now Im trying to find a way of selling my Corsair Twinx 1024 XLpro (2-2-2-5) :(
How about my Antec NeoPower 480w?
Its going to be running:
*OCed A64 3500+ Venice (hitting 2.8 - 3.0 Ghz hopefully :D )
*OCed x850xt (hitting over 600mhz on Core and Mem. hopefully also :D)
*If I dont sell this Corsair RAM and get the OCZ VX or any other ram you guys may recommend, Ill have to OC the Corsair. Ill try OCing it to 3.5v
*4x Cold Carthod lights (2x Dual)
*Raptor 74bg SATA
*Audigy 2 ZS
*the WC system
*a Deck keyboard w/ red LED lights
I think thats all...
What was the site for estimating PC voltage?
Isnt 10 ft enough for just a CPU looping solution?
and yeah, I dont mind having the tubes in Method#2. The only concern I have about Method#2 is:
Will it kink when bending it from the CPU to the hole?
10FT is more than enough. You'll only use about 2-3.
i use alot more than 2-3 ft... more like 6 all together.
HELP again!!!
Who exactly is Weapon?
I went to the "Members List" and found someone called Weapon, and another one called Weapon X.
I assumed that it was Weapon, so I PM'ed him and havent got a reply yet.
Is he the one who makes the Weapon cores or am I mistaken? :confused:
His avatar was Master Chief
Sry for posting in a linear way, but new questions start to pop out of me.
Im refreshing what the total cost would be and it looks a lot cheaper than my previous plan :)
Right now I was looking at the fluids, and I was wondering how does Zerex look in the dark.
Is Zerex UV reactive or just colored?
Is it red or purple?
Could someone post a pic using Zerex?
CoolTechnica.com offers some fittings with the AX 50z pump. What fits with the 7/16" ID tubing? 5/8"OD-1/2"ID or 1/2"OD-3/8"ID barbs?
As I've said before. Use all 1/2" OD fittings with the 7/16" ID Tygon. ;)
Zerex is a pinkish red, but with red LED fans + red/uv cathodes, it looks bright red and is very cool looking. It is not UV reactive but does seem to give off a slight glow from UV cathodes in my experience.
And to answer your previous post, you've got the correct Weapon, just sit tight and be patient...I'm sure he has his reasons for not replying right away...possibly because your over-excited typing makes you look like a crack addict :p:
lol, not that much :D
For how much does he sell his cores + shroud?
I added a $50-$80 estimate and the total price of my cooling system was $200-220 :banana:
The first ploject I had in mind was ~ $350
Also, a bit above this page I talk about my PSU. Will it blow up with what Im planning on doing ? :explode2:
I like these emoticons :D
No, your psu should be ok, although I'd reccomend selling it an upgrading to an OCZ 520 or above if you can swing it. Thatd give you more power headroom for ocing.
And the weapon cores go for around $75 if I can recall.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turok
OK I have built a system with very similar specs.
4000+ @ 2.75GHz only bumped core 0.7 V The cpu will go higher but this is a stable day to day OC.
DFI NF4 SLI-DR @ 250FSB
3200XL Pro @ DDR500 2.5,3,3,7 as per rated spec and at 2.7V (0.1 over default) So saying this ram does not overclock is crazy. OK so it is not @ 2,2,2,5 or 600MHz but I also did not have to run the 5V jumper which people in this forum have stated is very very hard on the motherboard and most do not recommend for day to day use. I personally would keep the mem volt under 3.1V so you can run the jumper in the 3.3V position. (BTW even running with the jumper to 3.3V is board runs pretty warm. The NB runs around 54C with good airflow.)
X850 XT PE no voltmods. 575 core and 600 ram. GPU is watercooled. (I highly doubt that your XT will reach 600 core without a volt mod. I have played with quite a few and they rarely do and I have yet to see one run there stable for a long time without a volt mod or phase-change cooling. On stock cooling a more realistic number is 540-560 core and 570 on the memory. A XT PE memory will clock higher as they is the only real major difference in the cards.
PSU is a Neo 480. Rails are very stable and have not given me any troubles. I log voltages using MBM. Under full load my 12V rail is 11.9ish 5V is 4.9 and 3.3V is 3.2ish. (Again the system is not built to break any 3dmark records but to run 24/7) The PSU is also running a 12V DD4 pump, 3 120mm case fans, 2 X 74 gig raptors, a 200 gig seagate, 2 optical drives, and a dual UV cathode. (BTW I have used more than one of these PSU's and have had no issues.)
The system will run 24/7 @ this spec and gets a 01 score of almost 32K. 05 is around 6500. Stock was 28K and 6200.
The watercooling is a single BlackIce Xtreme Rad. DD4 Pump. TDX cpu block, Maze 4 GPU block. Tygon 1/2", the case has a built in reservoir. The Rad has a single 120mm Fan it is a coolermaster LED fan and is low flow @ 32.11CFM. CPU Idles at 31-35 C and loads at 42 C. The GPU idles @ 33C. I personally like DD products and have been using them for years. The spec you have listed should work well too.
BTW All this is installed inside the machine.
Here is a link to the system I built for ATI. The spec was different but shows the general layout. http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?t=68923
That system had some cool parts. Namely the ATI "Bullhead" Mobo and a 512MB X850 XT.
Thaks for the reply. Solves a lot of my troubles.Quote:
Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
I guess my WC specs should be a bit superior, dont you think? :D
Only thing is that Im not cooling the GPU for now. When I start to get more experienced with WC, I could add the GPU block and buy one of those large copper RAM sinks from FrozenCPU.com
Im not a pro in OCing since Ive only had the change of handling some really sh***y hardware.
Its not safe to have a PC running high volts 24/7?
Will I be able to run my CPU to 2.8-3.0 Ghz every day always stable, or is it a temporal thig just for bragging? (note that we are talking about the Venice here :D )
About the x850xt. I found this Connect3D x850xt in newegg.com and it says 540mhz on the CPU speed (x850xt pe core speed).
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...142-037&depa=1
It that a mistake or is it true? Will this help in getting 600mhz? :D
How about my RAM? Since lots of you were recommending the OCZ VX WAY over the XLpro, I was planning were to get the extra $260 and sell the XLpro on ebay :(
What would be the major boost comparing this RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...227-206&depa=1
Vs. this RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-524&depa=1
Comprare like this:
Highest speed w/ lowest latency possible:
xxxx Mhz Vs. xxxx Mhz
x-x-x-x Latency Vs. x-x-x-x Latency
x.x v Vs. x.x v
Highest speed w/o lowest latency possible
xxxx Mhz Vs. xxxx Mhz
x-x-x-x Latency Vs. x-x-x-x Latency
x.x v Vs. x.x v
HEY :idea:
Has anyone ever tryed cable sleeving cables with WC tubes? lol :D
I'd get a GPU block right away. It doesnt add much more effort to putting the system together, you will get a much better OC to your gpu, and it'll keep the system quieter.
I ran into extra costs because of tools. I didnt have a dremel and stuff, but I guess your'e not modding the case anyway.
Zerex looks like a light pink, clear if you're using UV lights (in my experience). You could add UV dye to it to make it glow, but I dont know if it damages your pump (maybe MaxxxRacer will comment). I'm personally trying to find UV tape to run strips along my tubing.
Weapon is slow to respond, but his stuff is top knotch. Make sure to get both a core and a shroud from him. 120x38mm fans are a must too. inflowdirect sells such fans at $6 apiece.
If you get into D2OL (see signature) you'll know how stable your system is. If you can run that for about an hour you're pretty much set. I currently have my 3500+ winchester at 2.8ghz stable, but that was really lucky =/.
High voltages will lower your processor life from about 10 years to 5 years. If you're planning on using this computer for the next 10 years, then dont use high voltages (and get off this forum =P).
I'd see what you can get for your XLpro. Sell it on ebay but start with a really high price. If it sells, then awesome. If it doesnt, then there's something you can upgrade later, right? Just dont tell the people what you did to it when you sell it later. ;)
Got it ;)
I will do so, but first I would like to see some comparisons of the two mems I showed you above
About the modding, I do have a nice dremmel, but I like my case too much that I dont want to even scratch it. I do have a older case that I want to mod, but I dont have the money right now to get a new rig for it. If I had the rig, I would run it as a dedicated server and my parents would use it so they dont bother me :D
About the GPU, I will buy it soon, but not now. I get monthy money from my parents so i can get the block maybe in 2 months when I save some money for the release of F.E.A.R., AoE 3, etc. :D
Hell no, Im OCing until it bleeds :rocker: :D and Im not going to stay with the same old boring single CPU when I can have Dual core latter !!! :woot:
Anyone tryed that "sleeving cables with tubbes" thing? (that means getting the PSU cables IN the tubes and adding a heatshink on the ends)
Could look like larger rounded cables :D
The tubing is less flexible than you'd imagine. Youd also have to cut it all the way down so you could get the connectors in it. And it's just clear tubing... so...
All in all it will hurt your airflow and look silly, but you can try it. =P
As far as the memory, the Corsair memory you're looking at has 2-2-2-5 timings at DDR400, but since you're going to be overclocking you're going to need memory that runs closer to DDR500-600. The OCZ memory will do 2-2-2-5 timings at DDR-500, which is awesome, and will actually keep really tight timings all the way up to around DDR550
The OCZ memory and the Corsair memory are of different types, VX and TCCD respectively. As far as TCCD goes, it tends to be able to get higher clocks (I can run mine at DDR600), but it does looser timings at that point. The VX memory can go almost as high, but with tighter timings. TCCD also comes in two flavors, the kind that can run better at high speeds, and the kind that can run better at low speeds. The memory you have has 2-2-2-5 timings at low speeds, so it's not going to run as well as *some* other TCCD memories at high speeds.
An example of a high-speed TCCD memory is here:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-551&depa=0
This memory is rated at DDR550, higher than the sweet spot of VX, but the timings are pretty loose at 2.5-4-4-8. This memory will have better timings and go farther on the high end of things compared to the low-speed TCCD with tight timings.
Corsair demonstrates the effects of tight timings in this pdf on their webpage:
http://www.corsair.com/corsair/produ...erformance.pdf
I personally have the high-speed TCCD i just listed there, but I would definitely get the VX memory if I had the chance (they released it the day after I bought my memory). Also, the high-speed TCCD is also the memory compared against the VX in this anandtech article (you can see some real numbers here):
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2386
This article is actually done on the DFI Lanparty board that you're going to be getting.
Nice post :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Quanticles
Gives me a good idea of how mem is measured.
I guess Ill sell my Corsair XLpro on ebay and borrow money from my parents until I pay them back when i sell the XLpro. If anyone is interrested in this RAM, please PM me and Ill see what deals whe can come up.
About the "sleeving the cables with tubes" thing, I wasnt going to try it, I was just checking if someone has done it to see how it looks like. For some nice UV effects, I would maybe try painting the inner cables with UV paint or buy UV colored tubes, but anyway It could look bad, but its something to try
and one more thing about mem. Whats faster for the A64?
the OCZ VX OCed to a DDR600, with a looser latency or the same mem OCed to a DDR550 at the tightest latency possible?
VX at DDR550 will be faster than looser timmings at DDR600. you can check out anandtechs review of the VX for more info on this.