HS off Winchester :)

If you screw it up it can be fixed for RMA with seal string, superglue, and a razor blade........I know, I did it twice!

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Originally Posted by Magnj

So would it be worth the risk to take the HS off , Lapp it and Re install it with AS5?

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It is better to not have it on at all :slap:

4-7°c cooler now
oces a little better
needs less vcore for same settings

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Originally Posted by sabrewolf732

I doubt it, nc's do ok with extreme cooling and the ihs. I see no reason as to why the IHS would have anything to do with winnies being unstable at -0 temps. Maybe it is some weird fluke of nature though :slap:

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There is also a die size difference- winnies are much much smaller than newcastles or clawhammers and dont touch as much of the IHS.

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Originally Posted by TEDY

4-7°c cooler now
oces a little better
needs less vcore for same settings

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Exactly how much?! 500mhz better? .1vcore less?
:stick:

Yea im ........guessing 50Mhz more ??

he told me around 50mhz more then before...

and 0.1-0.2 less vcore need

example

before 310*9 at 1.675v....now at 1.5+11%

you get the idea :=)

I just took mine off a few days ago and I'm getting much better temps -10c and better clocks at lower voltages with watercooling. 2800MHZ which was a little flaky before has been running prime 95 for 24 hours now. So, it improved my overclock from 1.53v@2700Mhz to 1.6v@2800MHZ and it runs -10c cooler.

I did butcher it up quite a bit and knocked off completely two of those surface mount resistors or whatever those are under the spreader... I wish I had taken pics because it looks like it's dead as a door nail but.... I put it back in and it fired right up as usual. :p:

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Originally Posted by TEDY

he told me around 50mhz more then before...

and 0.1-0.2 less vcore need

example

before 310*9 at 1.675v....now at 1.5+11%

you get the idea :=)

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Thats still 1.65vcore
;)

i just gave example....nothing more :p

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Originally Posted by dippyskoodlez

There is also a die size difference- winnies are much much smaller than newcastles or clawhammers and dont touch as much of the IHS.




Exactly how much?! 500mhz better? .1vcore less?
:stick:

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But, wtf does that have to do with how they do under -0 temps????????? That would have no influence IMO, :slap:

The spacer on the CPU's are not to transfer heat but to protect the fragile core.

They need to just go back to the original XP style then. Crush pads and an exposed core if people are obviously getting much better temps and OC'ing gains.

is it worth with stock cooling?
doesn't it lower your cpu and so less pressure on the core and so almost no decrease of temps