Except for 0.11? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
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Except for 0.11? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
i doubt flashing will work, but we won't know for sure until people here at the forums try it... .:waiting for results:.
pent of http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...6&page=1&pp=30
is the same person of http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33807164
Anyway I have taken Connect 3D X850XT (ViVo, 1.6 ns chips) to compare with my Club 3D X800XL bios (ViVo, 16 ns chips) ... nothing special, they are identical except for core (X850XT > 480, X800XL > 430). I could try but I'm afraid :D
A couple of people on another forum have reported successful flashes, and a couple have unsuccessful ones. However, the successful flashes didn't provide any gain in overclocks, just the card being identified as X850XT...
Unsuccessful = ? :D Explosion? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DarkManX_BG
Unsuccessful = no POST or artifacts all over the place.Quote:
Originally Posted by XiN
You can just flash back though (using a PCI video card or doing a blind flash)
That's the reason why I'll try it later - no damage done if it doesn't work :)
Good, I have an old PCI card :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DarkManX_BG
We have the same card :toast: which bios do you test? I think I could use Connect 3D X850XT bios (VIVO, same mem chips) or Sapphire ... the best would be a Club 3D X850XT PCI-E bios but I don't find it ... mumble ...
Is it better uninstall Catalyst or not?
I suggest we use the Connect3D Bios (because of ViVo). I also tried to find a Club3D BIOS but didn't find any. Give me a link to the Connect3D BIOS and I'll try it tomorrow...
My memory has 2ns chips btw :(
As for Catalyst - I suggest reinstalling, at least I will...
3D Connect bios: http://www.mvktech.net/index.php?opt...&filecatid=941
Sapphire should be VIVO too: http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/Sapp...g16_041116.bin
http://img52.exs.cx/img52/1038/sapphirebios0nk.th.jpg
2.0 ns? For Club 3D is unusual ... :confused:
Yeah, you can't immagine how disappointed I was when I looked at the memory. I bought Club3D for 2 reasons - 1.6ns memory and the extra power connector. The memory is 2ns and the power connector doesn't seem to help at all either (max core clock 440MHz).
Will I be fine using a BIOS for 1.6ns memory on 2.0ns memory?
Exactly my max core ...
I don't know, maybe it's better finding a 2.0 ns bios
Anyway for 2 ns max clock should be: 1000/0.2 = 500 mhz so you could set memory clock to 500 (instead of 540 of the X850XT) ... so you are more safe
How can I edit the clocks before flashing? I've did it once when flashing a 9800Pro to XT, but I really don't remember at all :eek:
try the Vcore mod guys... it helps!!
What was your max core OC before the mod?Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
so exactly how many ppl do we have claiming success on this flash. In this case define success as a flash that allows for X800XL clocks into the X850Xt range.
The same guy on two different forums, and has anyone here had success with this? if so, it could makes things extremely interesting. :)
about 440 or 450... with the Vmod and benching in 15C ambient I hit 492, aactually I can even run a little at 500, like one run of Car lo...Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkManX_BG
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link to V mod?
With RaBit 1.7 ... set clocks and save bios :pQuote:
Originally Posted by DarkManX_BG
I'll do it, but if this flashing works ... uhm ... :slobber: :D ... (even if I'm pessimistic about it :P)Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...g/voltmods/112Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnj
Here Charlie's thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=55070
This is the only one I found, it should do the job though (at least my X800XL has the same layout...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnj
EDIT: Gr, XiN was faster than me :( :p:
so whats the deal guys? it has to have 1.6ns RAM and the additional power connector?
Ok so I decided to give this a go last night. I opened up the Sapphire X850XT PCI-E bios and set the core and memory speeds as close as possible to my X800XL clocks and then saved it onto a bootable floppy with flashrom. Thought it would be better this way and saver. Booted from the floppy and flashed to the modded bios. Restarted and went into windows reinstalled the drivers and it detected my card as a X850XT. Then I started a 3DMark2001SE run at my stock X800XL clocks and it finished without any problems. After that I moved to where I knew my X800XL's max clocks were and did another 3DMark2001SE run. No problem there either. Started to feel all happy and stuff, but as soon as I went over my max X800XL clocks, the system locked-up. So it seems that this either does not work or you need a VIVO card with an extra power-connecter. :(
the PROBLEM here is you can't change an x800xt GPU into a x850xt GPU.... it sounds almost too stupid, but it's true. There's no EXTRA pipelines to "unlock" there's no disabled shaders... all the other famous BIOS swap mods take advantage of stiffer voltages for the extra MHZ. So even IF you could run an x800xl on the x850 BIOS, and I think you can... why would it run better than a default xl? Do a Vgpu mod and there's NOTHING a BIOS mod could do in this CASE. I just don't buy it....
:(
The ONLY way this would work is if Powercolor or whoever ran out of xl GPU's and installed BIOS crippled x850 cores on the card.... THEN!! a BIOS flash could bring her around! But I haven't heard a WORD of this, though...
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I agree with you 100% Charlie. There were rumors that the X800XL bios had some kind of lock and made it very difficult to overclock over a certain point. I think I have now proved it not to be true and that the X800XL just needs more volts to overclock better. Next step for me is vmodding. :)
Yeah
i don't buy it also. No advantage of flashing bios.
Any site for buying VR?
I guess local radioshack doesn't has it...