Hmm, I agree that it is the silicon which is the mayor difference, let's hope the new supplier will cease his streak of bad 05 chips and bring out something SWEET :)
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Hmm, I agree that it is the silicon which is the mayor difference, let's hope the new supplier will cease his streak of bad 05 chips and bring out something SWEET :)
Lets just hope strained silicon is all it's cracked up to be.
so if i order april 5th from new egg ill get Rev E3? Might as well wait a few more weeks for the super hype chips
so is this venice then :confused:
Perkam
It's most likely San Deigo since it's 1mb lv2 cache, but it's basically the same thing. Venice is the 512k lv2 cache version.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
iirc..
troy = 1mb, 940
san diego = 1mb, 939
venice = 512kb, 939
newark = 1mb, 754
lancaster = 512kb, 754
i previously thought that newark would be the 1mb DTR chip while lancaster would be the 512kb low voltage mobile.. but it seems that it's not actually working out this way, so i believe those are what the codenames represent :stick:
What perf increase are we really going to see with the Venice...I mean the Winnie's are stretched out as far as they can go (up to 3ghz) as it is, so they cant OC better. So then does this mean higher 3d marks at same clock ???
Perkam
remember seeing that thread with the 1.6ghz turion doing 51.9s in superpi 1m?
my clawhammer gets 52s (normal non-natched) at the same settings... so i'm not expecting a noticeable change at the same speed.. just the top end to go up a lot :banana:
They better overclock well. I'll be quite disappointed if they don't. :(
Speed binning might be a bit of a concern, but I'm thinking it'll be more like 6800GT clocks vs. 6800 Ultras (not THAT big a difference).
Either way, with all the new optimizations and doo-dads they're tossing into this new revision it's probably not worth it to buy a Winchester right now.
all i want is 2.7 after that is just icing on the cake. Give us a mem controller that will handle anything we throw at it. PLEASE
hopefully this switch to .09 to most of the processors, doesnt mean we get a whole lot of CPU's that can't be used for sub zero stuff.
the E revision chips are supposed to remove the 4 sticks = 2T and allow full banks/dual sided ram to run at 400MHz, rather than locking it down to 333, as well as providing more compatibility, SSE3, 90nm (for those that don't already have it), and hopefully price drops (more CPUs per wafer = lower die cost... hopefully reflected in pricing :) )
Venice is coming out on 5th San Diego 4000+ on 12th. As for the comment about silicon and marginally worse on the outer edge I heard the opposite and that most defects come from the centre. The comment about speed binning being done in Malaysia I can confirm.
So I get to ditch my poor OCing FX-53 for a *possibly* uber OCing San Diego next month? Sweet. Give me one that I can run at 12x250 and I will be happier than a pig in the mud.
Is Troy more susceptible to Trojans? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
ATM I could care less. I'm extremely happy with my 754 3000+ setup and it'll last me at least another year or two. I can't wait *rolls-eyes* for all these new chip threads that'll be popping up all over the place.
Woohoo :) Now I await CEBIT
About the Troy, that is the 2 way (what we see now in the 252) the 1 way is the Venice and the 8 way is the Athens.
I suppose you mean "couldn't care less", right? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by scrible88
Anyway, this is good news! With the reports of the 4200+ doing stock speed (2.6GHz) at 1.25V, I suspect that we're going to se a few AMD O/C records. As long as they like subzero temps, that is. Well, I'm probably still going to upgrade to a really cheap Sempron 90nm now and go A64 next year. Gives me something to play with in the meantime! :)
I just returned my 3000+ Winchester.
Do you think i should wait another month and get a Venice? Will prizes rise?
Prices tend to drop each quarterQuote:
Originally Posted by DildePer
So what you're saying is that the Venice core should be cheaper than the Winchester?
so it seems. I'm waiting. I just hope they have their :banana::banana::banana::banana: together on the first runs.
I very much doubt that the prices of venice's will be lower to start, remember the winchester release, everything went higher and higher then dropped. And this is "major" compared to just moving to 90nm..........or is it? is sse3 actually used by that many prog.s atm, i was under the impression it wasnt.
I think AMD intends for this release to be semi-major. SSE3 offers some optimizations but nothing tremendous. Winchesters are aleady 90nm, so they're basically just adding SSE3 and (speculation) improving the memory controller/strained silicon. So it's possible they're only adding SSE3 at the moment and absolutely nothing else since that's all we're sure of. If that's the case, I don't see that this release would be a huge deal for AMD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincentvega18