It would seem so, in superpi at least. But remember that even Prescotts beat FX's in superpi. And Prescotts sure aren't faster then FX's in much of anything else.
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It would seem so, in superpi at least. But remember that even Prescotts beat FX's in superpi. And Prescotts sure aren't faster then FX's in much of anything else.
I think Intel has a Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon chip on their hands ;)
My guess is that amd could impliment sse3 and bump fx to 2mb cache if needed and outperform the Dothan.
Ya, but they can't do 2.4Ghz @ 1.3v no matter what... Not even the 90nm ones, at least not yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lithan
I could get my friend to order me a few of those mb's from japan if anyone is interested. I'll have a talk with him if i get some of you that PM me for some.
Don't think it'll be worth it since it's only single channel ram, so 3D performance will be crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by PnoT
Almost forgot that the Dothan doesn't have intergrated mem controller, so even with dual channel ram, games will still lag behind A64 clock for clock..
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Originally Posted by HKPolice
Just an open option if someone is interested....
My best time at 2.5GHz (and at 276.5 x 9, 1:1, 2-2-2-5-7-16) with FX-53 is 32sec - so that little Dothan is killing even the fastest FX chips clock to clock!! :DQuote:
Around what does a 939 512cache cpu put out at 2.5ghz 240x10.5 with dcddr 1:1 5-2-2-2 in superpi for compairison?
Now whos going to fly to Japan and get us some of these mobos!?? :D
Ya, I'm sure the crazy rich LN2 SuperPI mofos out there would love it :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by PnoT
*hint hint* PM MACCI
I'm going to check with my buddy and see if he might be able to get me one. I think it would be awesome to run a Dothan on the desktop.
Well, I think they could if the power scheme was adjusted (more amps, lower volts). But I agree that they can't at the total wattage of Dothan's... which will make dothans very attractive to me as I've been seriously looking at a silent + low power rig lately. But if and when we can seriously look at Dothans as a desktop alternative is questionable. And I think from a pure performance perspective, A64 will still have the lead.Quote:
Originally Posted by HKPolice
I think you're a little confused here. You can't just "turn down" the volts and pump up the amps on a CPU. Voltage is determined by the design and speed of a CPU. For example, you can't run an A64 @ 2Ghz with 1v, even if you pump a million amps through it. Amps is determined by the activity/speed and % leakage of the CPU, so it varies. The CPU will use up as much amps as it needs, you can't "force" extra amps through it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lithan
During cpu design it's determined how much amperage it will draw, just like with any other electrical device. I'd assume this can be controlled to a point, otherwise they are just shooting in the dark to figure out the cpu's power specs.
Edit: Case in point: The low-wattage Opterons with not only lower Voltages than their 'standard' alternatives, but lower maximum amperages as well. And the DUT3C/DLT3C's from not so long ago. DUT3C drew @ max ~31amp at 1.6v, DLT3C drew @ max ~33amp at 1.5v; otherwise the two chips were identical.
wow ..........impressive............
i ve do an articles
link
Looks like the board will be available in Europe by mid-November.
2 stores in Germany already have it listed :
http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/?...gme&a=17101123
Price : around 240€
Is that an ES or are the multis of Dothans free?
Lower multis should be available so that the chip can run in lower P-states when on the battery.
Dothans will be a great processor once Intel gets them out to us. Unlocked Multi...yeah 1200mhz FSB. :D Probly not but nice to dream. Those should turn out to be great processors. 2.5ghz @ 1.3v...think if that thing was cooled with LN....
It isnt even in a "desktop" environment either, single channel DDR333 memory
Give it some dual channel OCZ 2-2-3 DDR2 @ 1066fsb and hyperthreading and youll really see it fly
with a Dothan 2.1G we have a choice from 8 to 21xQuote:
Originally Posted by Shade00
The AOpen i855GMEm-LFS wont be the only MB to an extreme oc (vcore availibility for example)
you seem to know something i do not, CPUOC?
When will the 2.1 dorthan come out, and who else are gonna make P-M desktop mobos for OC? :)
nice ;)
before you ask I don't remember where I found this:
I don't think Hyperthreading can be used on the Dothan. I BELIEVE that the pipeline is too short for it to be worth while.
And there isn't DDR2 RAM with 2-2-3 timeings. I'm not sure if there will ever be...but by that time..lets hope the DDR 2 has advanced enough for that :D
yes but I can nothing sayQuote:
Originally Posted by Mathias-K
Yes, there is DDR2 with 2-2-3 (assuming 3 means cas latency here.. everyone writes it differently :rolleyes:).