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Yeah, but the S754 (which was faster and cheaper before) has been lowered even more (see price list above) making the S939 an even more rediculous move.;)Quote:
Originally posted by Arkangyl
daaaaaaaaaaamn
now s939 is looking viable for me @ $350 for a CPU and 2 new cheaper ones due out soon too
I don't think there is any argument at all for going S939 unless you spend the big bucks and go for FX-53.
It's new!:p:Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
I don't think there is any argument at all for going S939.
So is the Prescot.
If you are going to quote me, quote the whole sentence, otherwise it appears you are twisting my words to prove something that isn't true.:mad:
prescot is sad lol. Im loving this 3700+.
Not everything that is new is good.
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Originally posted by StormPC
So is the Prescot.
If you are going to quote me, quote the whole sentence, otherwise you are twisting my words.:mad:
at $500 the 3700 doesn't sound out of reach anymore. how much did you pay?Quote:
Originally posted by milan03
prescot is sad lol. Im loving this 3700+.
It was only $170 more before. Even if it was more than a 3800+ it would be worth it because it's faster, more stable and the motherboards are more mature and less expensive for the most part.
My ram is really holding me back, I know. I have lot's of money though. I'm just getting started benching with PC and vmods. Lot's to learn. I've only used the PC twice, and the vmods once.:D
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milan03,
Yep, in realworld gaming the FX-53 could POSSIBLY play a little stronger game of chess (assuming the program is written properly) but would not have any noticible advantage over a 3700+ in 3D gaming.
If youre a gamer, i cant see how can someone justify fx-53 over $320 cheaper 3700+ that oc's/performs as well as 53.
It doesn't perform as well. FX53 outperforms a 3700+. FX has dual channel AND 1meg.
3700+ also has a meg.Quote:
Originally posted by Lithan
It doesn't perform as well. FX53 outperforms a 3700+. FX has dual channel AND 1meg.
See my last edit above.
Like Lithan said it doesn't perform as well. No offence to storm, but I can beat the 2k1 score in his sig with a stock card. The real question with the price drops is if the extra performance is worth the money. That's up to individual prefference.Quote:
Originally posted by milan03
If youre a gamer, i cant see how can someone justify fx-53 over $320 cheaper 3700+ that oc's/performs as well as 53.
For the person who talked about ram. I have some eb and its slower than my bh-5. Get a grip
BH-5 ... is ... still ... king.
But it wouldn't hurt for Storm to replace his BH-6 with some nice clocking BH-5 :)
Tbh, benchmarking is different than playing 3d games, imo. Fx-53 will > 3700+ cause of its dual channel support but most of today games wont really benefit out of dual channel that much. NOw we all know that fx-53 is the best amd chip, but price tag of extra $320+ for that chip is WAAAAAAY off :)
why is it when tested a 3500 was faster than a 3400 and a 3800 is faster than a 3700 ????
or are you reffering when both processors are at the exact same Mhz???
I wonder how my poor slow 3500 will do in Car High and lobby high once my X800 comes in ??? hummm 3 weeks and counting
Why don't you run some benchies and show us?
Clock for Clock you'll probably beat him in LL and LH. I haven't looked at the difference between them in CH, but its more dependant on cpu speed then memory speed from what I've seen. Overall the s754 CL will out run the s939 NC IMO
It's a tall order to get a 3500+ or 3800+ on the front page of the 2k1 ORB. So tall that it probably won't happen. If you look at the front page you WILL see mostly S754 based systems. That's all I need to see. The Newcastles are just too handicapped by the lack of cache. If it wasn't for the P4EE there would not be a single Intel CPU on the first two pages. Again, it's the cache thing. Taking half of the cache from an A64 is the equivalent of kicking it in the balls.
I don't need toQuote:
Originally posted by StormPC
Why don't you run some benchies and show us?
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/...9/image001.gif
non basis independant testing. :D
Notice 3DMark (the two most popular gaming benchmarks in the world) are missing from your chart. Why do you think that might be? Could it be that 3DMark scores are too easily varified whereas those others are not so easily checked?:shrug:
boom less and bench more!:toast:
no because those are more directed to video card than CPU
why is your 3Dmarks so much higher than mine?? Video card
this was a CPU test not video card test.
and the 754 won a couple but overall it lost more due to being slower.
its a 3400 not a 3600 ;)
No offense, You're missing my point. I'm saying the whole point of having phase change cooling is to get really high overclocks. Why spend big bucks on phase change if you're ram doesn't have the headroom to run 1:1? I have some eb and it's more stable at high htt. I sold the mushkin BH-5 black lev. II some time ago and made $200 over what I paid and haven't missed it one bit. Yes you're right if you're running a low fsb cas2 is faster, but that's not going to last once you really start raising it unless you have vdimm mod. or use a divider.Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
Like Lithan said it doesn't perform as well. No offence to storm, but I can beat the 2k1 score in his sig with a stock card. The real question with the price drops is if the extra performance is worth the money. That's up to individual prefference.
For the person who talked about ram. I have some eb and its slower than my bh-5. Get a grip
There is no 1:1 on A64, Memory is completely and totally untied from the HTT.
You set the HTT x multi for your max CPU clock. Then you set the divider (CPU/x) for your best memory clock.
Here's a test. Pkrew max out your BH-5 and give a sandra bench as well as Super_Pi 1M run. trans am, max out your EB and give a sandra bench as well as Super_Pi 1M run also.
CPU must run at 2400MHz +/- 25MHz, use whatever multi, divider LDT, volts you want.
I see your point. He has cas 2 and I have cas 3 but I'll do it if you really want. I'm downloading superpi right now. never used it before.