here my OCZ PC3200 Platinum with CH5 on my K8V.... ;)
vdimm@3.5v
http://www.burnerman.com/mems/ocz3200/ocz3200-264.jpg
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here my OCZ PC3200 Platinum with CH5 on my K8V.... ;)
vdimm@3.5v
http://www.burnerman.com/mems/ocz3200/ocz3200-264.jpg
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290fsb is a record for bh5, far from average. and I neither have higher than 3.25 nor will I run it higher, not everyone has money to replace dead ram and I game besides bench so for 24/7 use, I want 3v max. bh5 may pull ahead at very high volts but ch5 can hold its own at less volts and thats what matters to most
...and these are two other CH5 sticks on an IC7-MAX3 @3.2v
http://www.burnerman.com/mems/ocz3500/ocz250ch5.jpg
byez :cool:
290 fsb isn't the record. I've seen some screens at 310, but I also doubt that many will do 290. Maybe in single channel. Either way the new ch-5 is a deffinate improvement. I'll still take the bh-5 though and I don't mind running mine at 3.5v. I worry about burning up other things with my 3.3v rail more than my ram, but then no risk, no gain.
bh5 ram doesnt seem to get along very well all the time on nf2 mobos, thats what I hear. Ive always had great luck with corsair value ram though. hows the price on bh5 and good ch5 currently
BH-5 will do fine on NF2 boards, it just takes some time to get it burned in and up to the task.
Witness charlie's ABIT nf7 @ 250 posted in these forums, Lastviking's DFI LP/Infinity clocks.
You can't slam BH-5 to high FSB in nf2 boards, you have to coax it.
For a pair of 256mb it looks like its about $40 more for the bh-5 at zipzoomfly, but it depends on where you get it from. I just got a pair of 256mb bh-5 for $120 which is $30 cheaper than what zzf sells hyperX pc3500 for.
the thing is, I had mushkin bh5 that seems to have started at 245fsb, such shame my published score at 245fsb was at 5x cause I was testing my ram. now I cant get 3dmark to complete past 220fsb. also prices of bh5 have gone way up too. I can get a 9800 pro for less than bh5 ram and games will run better too over my ti4200 and bh5. maybe once people all move on to ddr2, bh5 will be dirt cheap and I can try my luck again before upgrading to a64
The fact is CH-5 at 2-2-2-5 is slightly slower than BH-5 at the same settings.Quote:
Originally posted by QuadDamage
it will never own BH-5. Didn't you know that BH-5 can do 290fsb+ at 2-2-2-5-9-16 and 3.5-3.7V? :stick:
Could be because they are 130nm parts where BH-5 is a 150nm part.Quote:
Originally posted by daos
freind of mine had them running pretty nice on 3.4v, and then woke up one day....DEAD. CH-5 cannot handle voltage as well as BH-5. just remember that and be careful unless you could care less ;)
Its some really good ram, very nice scores.
How do we know which are "old" and "new" CH-5 ?:confused:
Theres a date on the chips its just written in a 'code'
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Originally posted by Soulburner
Could be because they are 130nm parts where BH-5 is a 150nm part.
IDD.... winbond rates both parts at 3.6 max. probably his PCB died on him or some resistor ect.... Daos, what brand was his ram?
I remeber when many of the 865/875 boards had a lot of trouble with ch-5. Many just wouldn't do anyting at 5/4. Glad to see that's resolved. They must have changed something in the pcb. Good news for the people with Intel rigs.
I don't think thats resolved, I still haven't seen people running CH-5 at high FSB 5:4.
I will say you that in one week OR tommorow(if i have the time). Mine are one of the last batchs made(11/03), and they can do 2-2-2-6, so if mine can go to 300FSB 5:4(w/ up to 3.7V) CH5 can pas that wall...
Do you have a link to the specs? 3.6v max seems crazy, since the standard is 2.5v....Quote:
Originally posted by enzoR
IDD.... winbond rates both parts at 3.6 max. probably his PCB died on him or some resistor ect.... Daos, what brand was his ram?
i cant be bothered :p:
its on winbonds site in a pdf i think. 3.6 is listed as the maximum blah blah blah..... normal is 2.5 :)
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Originally posted by skate2snow
I will say you that in one week OR tommorow(if i have the time). Mine are one of the last batchs made(11/03), and they can do 2-2-2-6, so if mine can go to 300FSB 5:4(w/ up to 3.7V) CH5 can pas that wall...
Cant wait for your results m8. its gonna be a great contribution :toast: :)
So you guys think it's worth getting CH-5 these days with these new speeds being reached on supposedly better made chips?
What brand would be best, corsair value or what?
(wondering since I dunno if for sure to get khx3000:( )
OCZ 3200's, Corsair 3200's, HyperX 3500's would all be good choices.
should I go out and buy a few sticks of corsair value before they are all out? is 512mb or 256mb better chance? my 512mb is good but not great. 220fsb at 2-2-3-11 but ill be most happy starting at 230 2-2-2-11 dual channel baby
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Originally posted by skate2snow
Mine are one of the last batchs made(11/03
How do you read its made in 11/03 ?:confused:
and what batches are considered new?
Actually BH5 is 0.185.. not 0.15 ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Could be because they are 130nm parts where BH-5 is a 150nm part.
Some rumors said CH5 lacked some pipelines for running tRCD 2 properly. Im no ram-guru, so for all i know it might be true!?
Examining the Datasheet for BH-5 and CH-5 there is no architectural differences.
The move to die shrink is the difference, and what ever "magical" layout/materials arrangement that led to BH-5 being so good is:
A) Unknown to the Winbond engineers so they cant even reproduce it...
B) Lost for all time....FK ME.
In otherwords, even Winbond doesn't know WHY the BH-5's were so awesome, and based on demand for high performance DDR, would make more in a heartbeat.... IF they knew how.