ASRock FM2A88X Extreme6+ / A10-7700K observations

Luxmark

CPU

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
HDT	1430	1411	-1%
Room	118	111	-6%
Sala	199	196	-2%
Luxmark CPU			-3%

GPU

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
HDT	1648	3267	98%
Room	75	245	227%
Sala	167	450	169%
Luxmark GPU			165%

CPU+GPU

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
HDT	2532	3963	57%
Room	163	296	82%
Sala	295	557	89%
Luxmark CPU+GPU			75%

Scenes HDT/Room/Sala

A8-6500
http://abload.de/thumb/hdr_cpugbkvs.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/hdr_gpu0nkfv.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/hdr_both3gjyf.jpg
http://abload.de/thumb/room_cpuqrjlc.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/room_gpu6aktr.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/room_bothtskil.jpg
http://abload.de/thumb/sala_cpuzxkfx.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/sala_gpubrkap.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/sala_bothy2kyb.jpg

A10-7700K
http://abload.de/thumb/hdr_cpu02zsk.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/hdr_gpulvb7m.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/hdr_bothpramw.jpg
http://abload.de/thumb/room_cpu7dju5.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/room_gpunnjs3.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/room_bothtykh3.jpg
http://abload.de/thumb/sala_cpugbjwi.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/sala_gpurcjbg.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/sala_bothxxkt7.jpg

Nuclearus MC

Single

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
Fibonacci	5941	6152	4%
Factorial	4654	5053	9%
Ferma	4459	4563	2%
Brute Force	5342	5529	4%
Matrix add	4917	4410	-10%
Matrix mul	4592	4016	-12%
Quick sort	5136	5480	7%
Queens	4032	4220	5%
ALU Single			1%
Hyperbolic cosec	5837	6163	6%
Hyperbolic tan	4947	5191	5%
Digit Pi	7541	8385	11%
Mandelbrot	8149	8149	0%
Picture Morphing	5953	6073	2%
Factorial	1796	3174	77%
Prime	6351	6625	4%
Digit e	4502	5022	11%
FPU Single			14%
Nuclearus Single			8%

Multi

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
Fibonacci	23938	24573	3%
Factorial	17695	20072	13%
Ferma	14495	18406	27%
Quick sort	12840	17020	32%
ALU Multi			18%
Hyperbolic cosec	4834	6839	41%
Digit e	3657	5358	46%
Picture Morphing	3604	5239	45%
Prime	24049	26251	9%
FPU Multi			35%
Nuclearus Multi			27%

Memory

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
L1 Speed MB/s	93714	129179	38%
L2 Speed MB/s	36531	31476	-14%
Mem read MB/s	8233	7888	-4%
Mem write MB/s	3574	3574	0%
Nuclearus Memory			5%

A8-6500
http://abload.de/thumb/bench6tkts.jpg

A10-7700K
http://abload.de/thumb/benchpdkbb.jpg

PCMark 8
Tried to run the OCL version but specs sayd device disabled and listed no opencl devices.

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
Webbrowsing Amazonia (sec)	0.13	0.13	0%
Webbrowsing JunglePin (sec)	0.35	0.35	0%
Writing (sec)	5.01	4.81	4%
Casual Gaming (FPS)	32.8	34.9	6%
Video Chat Playback (FPS)	30.0	30.0	0%
Video Chat Encoding (ms)	128.3	134.3	-4%
Photo Editing (sec)	0.9	0.87	3%
PCMark			1%

A8-6500
http://abload.de/thumb/cpu_scoregzj6r.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/cpu_settings94j23.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/cpu_specsuajk4.jpg

A10-7700K
http://abload.de/thumb/cpu_scoreso7jgy.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/cpu_settings9hkb9.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/cpu_specs9ijxj.jpg

ratGPU

Results look odd, will retest.

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
CPU (sec)	3694.8	957.5	286%
GPU (sec)	562.3 s	179.4	213%

A8-6500
http://abload.de/thumb/opencl-cpusxkkb.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/opencl-gpuu1ki5.jpg

A10-7700K
http://abload.de/thumb/opencl-cpum6j6c.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/opencl-gpujeks7.jpg

ScienceMark 2

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
Molecular Dynamics	1002.13	863.25	-14%
Primordia	1106.98	1157.41	5%
Cryptography	1304.91	1574.36	21%
STREAM	3036.93	3069.53	1%
Memory	2763.82	3138.42	14%
BLAS/FLOPs	2134.58	2213.22	4%
ScienceMark 2			5%

A8-6500
http://abload.de/thumb/benchatj3x.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/txt18tj18.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/txt2k3j1r.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/txt3odklb.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/txt4oqkyv.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/txt5aakii.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/txt6nokwz.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/txt7s1jm7.jpg

A10-7700K
http://abload.de/thumb/benchxakv8.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/txt1nbjk0.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/txt28pjp3.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/txt3q9juj.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/txt4xxkv7.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/txt5ppk4q.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/txt6klk8f.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/txt7najyx.jpg

Solidworks 2013

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
Processor (sec)	57.4	56.6	1%
EA (sec)	34.1	31.9	7%
Rendering (sec)	38.6	35.8	8%
CPU			5%
Grafic (sec)	35.3	33.0	7%
GFX			7%

A8-6500
http://abload.de/thumb/bench1djxy.jpg

A10-7700K
http://abload.de/thumb/benchh6kgy.jpg

Specvieperf

10 single 1280x1024

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
3dsmax	22.96	20.42	-11%
catia	16.06	17.02	6%
ensight	27.21	22.93	-16%
maya	51.17	45.68	-11%
proe	13.02	14.06	8%
sw	33.95	34.54	2%
tcvis	9.26	8.73	-6%
ugnx	14.63	10.94	-25%
Specvieperf 10 single			-7%

10 multi 1280x1024

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
3dsmax	42.20	36.24	-14%
catia	37.79	34.04	-9%
maya	94.80	97.50	3%
proe	31.98	28.80	-10%
sw	72.32	60.86	-16%
tcvis	18.40	9.42	-49%
Specvieperf 10 multi			-16%

12 single 1900x1060

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
catia	13.38	14.82	11%
creo	9.74	14.65	50%
energy	0.19	0.21	11%
maya	10.31	14.24	38%
medical	2.59	4.18	61%
showcase	7.60	8.56	13%
snx	6.02	4.08	-32%
sw	20.55	25.55	24%
Specvieperf 12 single			22%

10 single / 10 multi / 12 single

A8-6500
http://abload.de/thumb/spec10-single-1280x10t7kx9.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/spec10-multi-1280x102iukgk.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/spec12-single-1900x10gqkvd.jpg

A10-7700K
http://abload.de/thumb/spec10-single-1280x10tqj0j.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/spec10-multi-1280x102ogkip.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/spec12-single-1900x10kyk0x.jpg

Sunspider Javascript

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
Total (msec)	214	205.5	4%
Sunspider			4%

A8-6500
http://abload.de/thumb/benchlpjgq.jpg

A10-7700K
http://abload.de/thumb/benchnkj9q.jpg

Truecrypt

Encryption

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
AES	1.6	1.9	19%
Serpent	180	233	29%
Twofish	299	359	20%
AES-Twofish	252	306	21%
AES-Twofish-Serpent	105	134	28%
Serpent-AES	161	215	33%
Serpent-Twofish-AES	105	135	29%
Twofish-Serpent	102	145	42%
Truecrypt Encryption			28%

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
AES	1.6	1.9	19%
Serpent	181	238	31%
Twofish	357	415	16%
AES-Twofish	292	343	17%
AES-Twofish-Serpent	111	141	27%
Serpent-AES	160	213	33%
Serpent-Twofish-AES	112	140	25%
Twofish-Serpent	120	151	26%
Truecrypt Decryption			24%

Mean

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
AES	1.6	1.9	19%
Serpent	181	235	30%
Twofish	328	387	18%
AES-Twofish	272	325	19%
AES-Twofish-Serpent	108	138	28%
Serpent-AES	160	214	34%
Serpent-Twofish-AES	108	138	28%
Twofish-Serpent	116	148	28%
Truecrypt Decryption			25%

A8-6500
http://abload.de/thumb/benchxqka8.jpg

A10-7700K
http://abload.de/thumb/benchb4k9r.jpg

Unigine Heaven

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
HWBox Basic	549.6	684.2	24%
HWBox Extreme	166.8	356.0	113%
Unigine Heaven			69%

A8-6500
http://abload.de/thumb/hwbot-basicrwjlz.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/hwbot-extremexuk3h.jpg

A10-7700K
http://abload.de/thumb/hwbot-basic5zjgy.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/hwbot-extremebmk6w.jpg

Wprime

Benchmark	A8-6500	A10-7700K
1.55 32M (sec)	20.0	14.6	37%
1.55 1024M (sec)	618.6	442.7	40%
2.10 32M (sec)	20.8	15.2	37%
2.10 1024M (sec)	696.3	468.0	49%
Wprime			41%

1.55 / 2.10

A8-6500
http://abload.de/thumb/155irku0.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/210-1jfju6.jpg

A10-7700K
http://abload.de/thumb/155nsk4c.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/210utjyo.jpg

Lots of results! Thanks!

I have problem with my Kaveri (or motherboard) as it doesn't like PCIe 3.0 cards at all and hangs very frequently. With R9 290 it also is impossible to increase base clock by even 1MHz. With Richland CPU everything works as it should so I suspect it is Kaveri at fault here :(

I have an GTX 650 here, which is also PCIe3 will cross check later, gotta add som more result tables first. Thought i can remount watercooling today but those tables are alot of work.

New GPU-Z announced with Kaveri support. http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...-gpu-z-v0-7-6/
Also interesting:
Delidded A10-7700K: http://www.techpowerup.com/197051/am...de-lidded.html
Kaveri performs better with Dual-Ranked DIMMS: http://www.techpowerup.com/197145/am...ms-report.html

yes, its logical with dual sided memory chips at RAM. Its better for all CPUs, but for iGPU more :)

Hi there FlanK3r,

Yes it makes sense after reading the wiki article here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_rank. Do you know if there is an bios parameter to controll the delay for rank switches?

Not really related but also interesting infos about driver strengt settings. http://www.techarp.com/showFreeBOG.a...ng=0&bogno=403 and another one about the more ususal memory settings http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/64

Funny, the vr circuit is marketed as 8+2. In that article they also mention that configuration but later they referet to the pwm controler spec here which is obviously ab 4+2 controller. So it's more like 4(x2)+2. Did not realize that the board uses an digital pwm. Last board with an digital pwm i owned was an dfi 790 am2+ board and the pwm section ran really hot there as well. Also it required abit more power idling.
However after reading this
On a circuit with four phases, the PWM signals will be delayed in such way that phases will be activated in sequence: first phase 1 is activated, then phase 2, then phase 3 and then phase 4. While one phase is turned on all others are turned off. In this case, each phase will be working 25% of the time.</p><p>The more phases you have, less time each phase will be turned on. As explained earlier, this makes each phase to dissipate less heat and each transistor to work less, which provides a higher life-span to this component.
it makes sense to use two mosfet's for each phase, should provide more power/stability for each phase than an 8x1 which would just reduce the the working time of an phase to 1/8 of the time.

@Lightman, tested the GTX-650 and it is PCIe3x16 and works without problems with an 105MHz BCLK. Firmware from Bios update via Internet worked as an charm.

Trying the v2.7 Bios here, but no 4.7GHz in reach, still hitting the same wall at 4.6GHz and still seeing high Radeon temps. The cTDP option has disappeard completely in this version.

Did abit more testing with the new bios. At 4.4GHz and 4.5GHz I require ~0.02-0.03V less for stability. At 4.6GHz however the radeon temps are still very high and cause the system to power off as soon as they reach 64C. In fact i need 1.55V now to pass the open porous linux benchmark sometimes, which required 1.5325V earlier and worked always. Thinking about deliddling noow, but might just leave it alone and stick with 4.4GHz at 1.3875V or 4.5 at 1.4625V now.

New Bios 2.81 beta ftp://europe.asrock.com/bios/FM2+/FM...+(2.81)ROM.zip

Amazing testing and thread, thank you very much for your work...

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Originally Posted by KiSUAN

Amazing testing and thread, thank you very much for your work...

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Thank you for the positive feedback, you're welcome.

Been testing an somewhat save overclock over night. System had frozen a few times yesterday at 4.4GHz with CPUVID 1.3875V and 1.4V but i also had lowered NBVID down to 1.15V and MEM to 1.5V. So I used CPU 4.4GHz/1.425V/LLC80% NB 1.8GHz/1.2V/LLC80% MEM 2133MHz/1.55V and ran prime95 for ten hours. Had fans and pump running at the lowest speed. In idle CPU temps are at ~35C and Radeon temps report -1C (should be calibrated to be correct at 65C). During the test cpu reached 55C at max it was ~50C most of the time. Radeon temps maxed out at 51C.
Could not yet get the memory run at 2400MHz. When i tried to adjust the settings manual i found that tWR sould be set to 20 but the board only allows an max of 16. Looking at AIDA64's SPD readings 945MHz is the last setting that fit's within board specs in regards to tWR (fivth number in the second group of timings).

http://abload.de/thumb/prime95-test4.41.8213ueuub.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/prime95-test4.41.8213tluto.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/prime95-test4.41.8213sluej.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/prime95-test4.41.8213nmuct.jpg

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Originally Posted by justapost

@Lightman, tested the GTX-650 and it is PCIe3x16 and works without problems with an 105MHz BCLK. Firmware from Bios update via Internet worked as an charm.

Trying the v2.7 Bios here, but no 4.7GHz in reach, still hitting the same wall at 4.6GHz and still seeing high Radeon temps. The cTDP option has disappeard completely in this version.

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Thanks for doing it!

I will RMA my Kaveri and wait for replacement. What also was weird about this sample was it wouldn't boot up at all on vCore below 1.33V even underclocked to 2.5GHz :(

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Originally Posted by Lightman

Thanks for doing it!

I will RMA my Kaveri and wait for replacement. What also was weird about this sample was it wouldn't boot up at all on vCore below 1.33V even underclocked to 2.5GHz :(

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Hope you get an better replacement chip soon, that was bad luck at the wrong time. Did your board also choose an richland type of nb voltage in manual mode? Mine picked 1.275V but when i ran it at auto settings 1.1375V was used.