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No? I think you need read some article and what was doing nvidia during this time. They have multiply the press conference during the Hawaii AMD conference.. ( and i just let you read the tweets they was send all this time )Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
28nm Maxwell VGA samples was made in summer, maxwell replacement of GTX 770 will be here 01/14Quote:
Originally Posted by kuroikenshi
Correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by PedantOne
Does "samples" mean finalized GPU design? Like tape out?Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
Nice to have confirmation on this btw.
Did they stage an event in Hawaii near AMD to attempt to steal away AMD attendees? No. Press releases and Tweets are not the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
Maxwell we already at the beginning of next year?Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
You mean like ordering Nvidia employees to stakeout AMD's room and threaten people?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
They have done similar things in the past.
All I can think of is; why?
-PB
They were responding to AMD's actions. Again, did NVIDIA try to pull that in Hawaii?Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEC911
I wont be happy if this beats the Lightning I just bought ....
Edit: Expensive Lightning
FFS
Considering how only has one directx 11 card in the current top 10 on the latest steam survey, i'm not sure how worried nV is about a R9-290x costing $600-700.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
Maxwell's delay has nothing to do with nVidia. The FAB used by both AMD and nVidia for GPUs has had some pretty serious issues getting the 20nm 3d process working properly but as of only a few days ago, TSMC said they've made a major breakthrough and spent a ton of money to expand 20nm wafer capacity. Also, they pushed all timelines up and clearly said this ramp-up is going to be FAR faster than 28nm, and how they are only making ONE version of 20nm, not the usual 3-4. The CEO said all products are ready to mass produce in January, including logic, memory, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by vitchilo
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99711720131008
Looking, this article by xbitlabs and AMD20nm http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/d..._Quarters.html its easy to imagine Nvidia have maybe not even tapeout their first chips too, or they are in a close or similar timeframe with 20nm ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew LB
maxwell replacement of gtx 770 in january? 3 months away? that'd be nice, but I hope you don't bet any money on itQuote:
Originally Posted by PedantOne
Ok guys lets stop with the personal attacks, last warning.
Sure upper end videocards have gone through a staggering amount of price creep, and if you view Titan as a "we've already established we can charge 600+ for a card let's try a grand" move it was genius. On the other hand Titan offered some things that you normally can't get without going into Quadro or Teslas. From that aspect, it was actually a pretty cheap deal. Along the same lines as buying up desktop 480 Fermi based cards remained rather popular (right up till Titan) for GPU computing for the various reasons that made those the better option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace123
I never viewed it as purely a gaming card, and it honestly has pretty questionable value there. Outside of some insane 4k configurations or just buying the most expensive thing for the hell of it it's an absurd product. On the other hand if you were interested in GPU computing and other things that should normally price you into the (much more expensive) professional card range, and happened to want to play some games as well, Titan is really a pretty solid value and not all that expensive for what you get. So I more viewed it as an odd bastardized child between their product lines.
Correct for 28nm samples maybe...Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
20nm Maxwell is a different story. And as far as I have seen there will not be high end maxwell on 28nm...
Its a touch faster than titan Tflop wise, but otherwise an arrogant move to set the clocks so low still. If they weren't going to use 2688 shader part, they should have clocked it at 1 ghz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Handrox
Seems like a lazy response or/and they were caught off guard from AMD and wanted to respond quickly. If Nvidia doesn't increase the voltage a bit more for consumers(allow consumers without using a modified bios), they are really relying to much on the superior branding.
Well the good is, particularly at the high end, there is going to be intense competition between Hawaii and the gtx 780 Ti as they should be within throwing distance of each other.
If the specs are true, Gk110, has been a disappointment to me for a consumer card. Not so much the performance, but how Nvidia has not been able to release a fully enabled gk110 to the public when they were capable of doing so with the far more problematic gf1x0 and also on the pricing.
If Nvidia was going to raise the pricing bar, I would have hoped they would at least give us a non-disabled part, especially now that AMD is releasing a competitive part. AMD's part might be smaller, but at least they are giving us the whole thing up front.
A pity :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
wait is the 780 ti suppose to be the full gk110? or in between the titan and 780?
Don't believe in a 2496 cuda part. Most likely its Titan with 3GB of memory and lower clocks.
Effectively, i dont think Nvidia will complicate themselves, they have Titan, less memory will reduce cost.. In reality, they could have many possibilities ready today between Titan and 780 sku, specially on core speed, they will just wait the review of the 290 for decide and launch it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimitriman
People still post GPU-Z fakes? What a waste of time...
This isn't a panicked reply to the 290X, there has been talk of TITAN Ultra for a while now and this is it. That screenshot is certainly fake, it has more CUDA cores than that. The memory speed is also wrong.
These cards are going to walk all over the 780 and TITAN.