I don't put much weight on process node, really. As long as performance is there, and power consumption is ok, who cares really? Process node is only 1% of the whole picture.
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I don't put much weight on process node, really. As long as performance is there, and power consumption is ok, who cares really? Process node is only 1% of the whole picture.
on that note,
if next gen BD integrated next gen GPU could really be a revolution even if on a bigger precess than rivals, I suppose all that's left to see is how bd performs and then we can draw up some conclusions
IF I think about it Komodo should be released not so long after IB and if I am not mistaken IB will be released at the start of 2Q.
DHB got slide that stated october release, like what one britain site hinted.
http://www.donanimhaber.com/islemci/...e-edilecek.htm
Dave you rebel you :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
I see your point though. This is tipical for near launch AMD CPU's. I don' t spend a lot of time in the Intel section, but don't recall the kinda of havok the AMD section gets on new product launches.
BTW, with the way Glo Fo is moving I can see the process gap shrinking very soon. And like mentioned above, process node is not the huge picture. AMD has been competing pretty well being a node behind in the segment they are in.
For example, Phenom II (refined AM3 version) is very competetive with 45nm wolfdale...Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
I expect AMD to at least match Bloomfield CPC this time around, and if they can do that + release chips that run high clocks 4.5-5 Ghz OC they will have a great chip to compete with. (Something Bloomfield didnt do, think Sandy Bridge @ 4.4 with 8 cores type feel) The price is what matters, though.
if they are giving us 4.x ghz turbo, i hope we see 5ghz easy on water 24/7
and if theres no cold bug, im scared to see what some LN2 will do
switching platform on september 19th going bk to AMD going to give a FX-8150 a try from my current set up!
8170 is part of a refresh to the lineup, it isn't in the initial launch. Unless of course AMD pulls another switch like they did with the 1075T/1090T.Quote:
Originally Posted by bro20000
Any more flamebait keiths and you'll be removed from this section.
For me it's right after my birthday :)Quote:
Right before my birthday, excellent.
But it will make the perfect 1-day-later b-day present for me. Gonna go straight for the powerhouse - FX-8150.
Hope the release date sticks :up: (although i wouldn't mind a day earlier..)
Don't hesitate, I have no need to converse with those who think what was written was flamebait, but what I ask is this subforum not show up on what's new.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gautam
That's enough, keiths.
Can't wait for this to come out OMG. My E8400 is like a brontosaurus and is begging to be put into retirement. Will definitely wait and see some results before I dive in though.
@Vapor, do you happen to know what episode/season of Futurama that Bender gif is from? :)
Roughly 7 weeks to go. :)
I had a chance to upgrade/sidegrade my Intel rig and made it into a secondary system. My AMD system should be ready to go for Bulldozer. I just need to get a good cooler that will handle it. I was thinking of getting a COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus and using it on my Phenom II in the meantime. Anybody know if this will have any problems cooling these chips or should I wait for coolers that have been verified to be able to handle it?
The 212 doesn't rate very high on the list. It's respectable, but there are better options. There aren't any specific things we'll have to worry about with Bulldozer core CPUs. They dump heat into the same heat spreader we've all come to know and love. The bigger and more efficient the heatsink, the better it'll be at removing higher heatloads produced under overclocked and overvolted conditions.
http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...id=2572&page=4
But the CM Hyper 212+ does very well in the price/performance value. In Norway its 1/2-1/3 the price of the top dogs, yet its not really that far behind in cooling.
Oh my god, people should be given a week's ban for referencing frostytech. They are WRONG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
By the way, a Mach2 GT holding -50c at 125w heatload? No. No. No. A thermaltake Frio does not beat an NH-D14 either.
You're welcome to your opinion I guess, but I trust FT's heatsink reviews more than anyone else's currently. It's in the same way that I trust JonnyGuru to review power supplies.
It's kind of like jonnyguru's reviews, without any of the accuracy. It'd be like if he used a kill-a-watt to measure efficiency and a $10 analog voltmeter to measure voltage changes. They review a lot of heatsinks, but most results are not indicative of real-world results. Some heatsinks listed are clearly worse than others yet perform better on their test plate. It's almost like they test heatsinks with whatever thermal paste comes in the package instead of using a consistent paste and/or mount pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
Thats just about right on evaporator temp. CPU's core temp. will be variesQuote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
It would be like that if they used bad equipment and had no consistent testing methodology, but they don't and they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
will the Super Talent 1600 9-9-9-25 1.5V work with any BD chip?
It's a good concept, however they show results that aren't logical. Xiggy SD964 beating H50? (I own one of those SD964's btw, and a core contact freezer...bought because I used to believe frostytech reviews) True 120 beating True 120 Extreme by 4 degrees at 125w?...Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle