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07-08-2011, 01:04 PM
Mafio
did some testing under single stage, the cpu looks quite good, 32M stable at 5230 MHZ with some room for improvements.

http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/139...5139736620.jpg

BTW, bios here needs some improvements:
- 32M performance isn't what i expect from a top end board
- compatibility with Elpida Hyper based DDR3 could and should be better
07-08-2011, 02:59 PM
BeepBeep2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mafio

did some testing under single stage, the cpu looks quite good, 32M stable at 5230 MHZ with some room for improvements.

http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/139...5139736620.jpg

BTW, bios here needs some improvements:

32M performance isn't what i expect from a top end board
compatibility with Elpida Hyper based DDR3 could and should be better
Example of still non-efficient run for comparison:
I would expect a Deneb CPU at Mafio's clocks to be doing ~13:05...
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3223/dice32m.jpg
07-09-2011, 01:20 AM
Mafio

and what about this? :D

http://thumbnails35.imagebam.com/139...c139803280.jpg

1th core is ok, but the others ALWAYS run at default multiplier.
07-09-2011, 03:28 AM
ah_khoo

@ sir chew*

pardon me for postin d screeny late, couldn't find d old one (or my memory playin tricks on me :shrug:). slightly less than stock clock (CPU) coz i'm not stressin d chip much since my cooling is really sucks. :shakes:

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5...000797a.th.png

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halk

I really appreciate you getting back to me on this! I do have another question though.... can MSI's software be set to automatically manage the settings for those fans - in a similar way to the way Asus manages CPU and Chassis, or Afterburner can control GPU fans?

i think no, it's either u set 50%, 75% or 100% for each fan. there's another profile which u can set, called silent. it's nothing but to set all fan @ 50%. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mafio

and what about this? :D

http://thumbnails35.imagebam.com/139...c139803280.jpg

1th core is ok, but the others ALWAYS run at default multiplier.

hmmm.... like what i expected, this bug is just d same as what my friend (whose using gd65 + x2 555be) claimed. time for MSI BIOS team to have a look into this issue... :)
07-09-2011, 05:58 AM
chew*

thx ah_koo, will give another bios a try before i post up some other stuff.
07-09-2011, 08:57 AM
ah_khoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

thx ah_koo, will give another bios a try before i post up some other stuff.

np sir, d pleasure is mine. just found out vimc adjust in control center is not workin as well. i use cc to lower d vimc to 1.29xv & prime, nothing goes wrong. but if i reboot & set d same vimc in bios & prime again, all workers stop... :(

edited:

vdimm adjustment in cc also not working... :shakes:
07-09-2011, 09:00 AM
BeepBeep2

Quote:

Originally Posted by ah_khoo

np sir, d pleasure is mine. jsut found out vimc adjust in control center is not workin as well. i use cc to lower d vimc to 1.29xv & prime, nothing goes wrong. but if i reboot & set d same vimc in bios & prime again, all workers stop... :(

Maybe it's not setting, or not setting correctly(?)
07-09-2011, 09:29 AM
ah_khoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

Maybe it's not setting, or not setting correctly(?)

don't quite get what u mean beep, but if cc is working well (in my case vimc), i should get instant failure on all workers no? maybe i should try lower vimc (@ 3k imc freq) coz usually this will cause instant reboot when d volt is too low. :)

when it comes to windows tweaking tool, asus turbo v is one of d best (if not d best)... :up:
07-09-2011, 10:01 AM
Mafio

we need working bioses not crappy windows tools :D
07-09-2011, 10:08 AM
ah_khoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mafio

we need working bioses not crappy windows tools :D

lol... so far what problem u have w/ d beta BIOS mate? other than "save & exit" only save & doesn't exit (just hang there, i need to manually press reset button), i have no issue at all. ;)

windows tools is important (at least to me) coz i do voltage fine tuning in windows. :D
07-09-2011, 10:21 AM
Mafio

Quote:

Originally Posted by ah_khoo

lol... so far what problem u have w/ d beta BIOS mate? other than "save & exit" only save & doesn't exit (just hang there, i need to manually press reset button), i have no issue at all. ;)

windows tools is important (at least to me) coz i do voltage fine tuning in windows. :D

the problems are:
1- poor support for Elpida Hyper based memory
2- multiplier changes only on the first core and, to be honest, i'm not that sure that it is correctly setted also for the first core.
the board cannot be 1 minute slower than the old 890fx ones at the same cpu frequency, so probably there is something wrong also with the first core multiplier.
too bad that here i don't have any other AM3 mobo to make comparison and try to figure out what's going on.

uhm, save and exit here works without problem
07-09-2011, 12:03 PM
True Brit

this was the board i was going to pick up as a keeper for a while, but i was getting grumblings from a few freinds that the bios was titchy, memory support was also discussed. i have a play with one coming up, so will judge for myself, at first looks and rad, it seems solid as well.

as they say, looks can be decieving.
07-09-2011, 09:43 PM
ah_khoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mafio

the problems are:
1- poor support for Elpida Hyper based memory
2- multiplier changes only on the first core and, to be honest, i'm not that sure that it is correctly setted also for the first core.
the board cannot be 1 minute slower than the old 890fx ones at the same cpu frequency, so probably there is something wrong also with the first core multiplier.
too bad that here i don't have any other AM3 mobo to make comparison and try to figure out what's going on.

uhm, save and exit here works without problem

i don't have any Hyper sticks to test, but after tested 3 different kits (Dom GT w/ psc, Winova w/ relabeled unknown Elpida chip set & Team Xtreme LV 1600 w/ BBSE), my comment is d board is a 'lil picky on ram. Dom GT & Team Xtreme worked fine, but d Winova is having problem doing what can be done on Asus 990X EVO or even d 880G EVO. :(

as for multiplier issue, can I say that it affects only non Thuban chips? My SuperPi 32M @ 4.1GHz result seemed normal. I'm sucks when it comes to SP optimization. Screeny here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?ac...ost&id=2305453 :shakes:

perhaps these issues which we are having can be ironed out by having BIOS update, hopefully MSI will release one to fix all these bugs ASAP... :)
07-10-2011, 12:28 AM
Mafio

Quote:

Originally Posted by ah_khoo

i don't have any Hyper sticks to test, but after tested 3 different kits (Dom GT w/ psc, Winova w/ relabeled unknown Elpida chip set & Team Xtreme LV 1600 w/ BBSE), my comment is d board is a 'lil picky on ram. Dom GT & Team Xtreme worked fine, but d Winova is having problem doing what can be done on Asus 990X EVO or even d 880G EVO. :(

as for multiplier issue, can I say that it affects only non Thuban chips? My SuperPi 32M @ 4.1GHz result seemed normal. I'm sucks when it comes to SP optimization. Screeny here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?ac...ost&id=2305453 :shakes:

perhaps these issues which we are having can be ironed out by having BIOS update, hopefully MSI will release one to fix all these bugs ASAP... :)

i've only Micron JNM, JNL and KPT and many sets of Elpida Hyper but no PSC here. :(
so far the only one that run past 1600 MHz are 2 sticks of Kingston HyperX 2000 cas8, too bad that they topped out around 1710/1715 MHz.
i need another 100 MHz, then i will be happy (1800/1850 MHz cas6 is the way to go when subzero).

so, you don't have any multiplier issue with your 1090T ? all cores use the multiplier you set in the bios ?
difficult to compare results made with different OS, let's see if i can find a ghost image of windows seven.

edit: here is a 32M on seven 64bit

http://thumbnails48.imagebam.com/139...1139934417.jpg

only a bunch of seconds slower than your run, looks like both of our scores are crap :D
07-10-2011, 02:41 AM
ah_khoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mafio

i've only Micron JNM, JNL and KPT and many sets of Elpida Hyper but no PSC here. :(
so far the only one that run past 1600 MHz are 2 sticks of Kingston HyperX 2000 cas8, too bad that they topped out around 1710/1715 MHz.
i need another 100 MHz, then i will be happy (1800/1850 MHz cas6 is the way to go when subzero).

so, you don't have any multiplier issue with your 1090T ? all cores use the multiplier you set in the bios ?
difficult to compare results made with different OS, let's see if i can find a ghost image of windows seven.

edit: here is a 32M on seven 64bit

http://thumbnails48.imagebam.com/139...1139934417.jpg

only a bunch of seconds slower than your run, looks like both of our scores are crap :D

i've sold d Dom GT sticks so I'm left with Winova & Xtreme LV to play with. But since d Winova sticks can't do much so all I have are d BBSE sticks. Tried running 7-9-7 @ > 2k but no luck. Elpida Hyper sticks are like white tigers, they're so rare that one can hardly find in my region (unless do direct import from d states). :(

my 1100T is running fine, all core multipliers are as per what set in BIOS. :)

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/4788/82354407.th.jpg

lol... SP is never what I'm good at, oh wait... I'm good at nothing all... :p:
07-13-2011, 02:55 AM
Mafio

a new bios is out: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/990FXA...html#?div=BIOS
07-13-2011, 07:27 PM
ah_khoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mafio

a new bios is out: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/990FXA...html#?div=BIOS

thx for d update mate, i've flashed it lastnite, no more lockup after save & exit in BIOS. yet to try whether there's any improvement on ram compatibility, will do some tests tonite... ;)
07-15-2011, 05:01 AM
ah_khoo

finally my cheapskate winova ram can run 2k @ 8-9-8... :)

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9...2000898.th.png

no more lock up after save & exit in BIOS, more responsive too compared to previous BIOSes. well done MSI... :up:
07-16-2011, 09:46 AM
Mafio

here still having some trouble with Elpida Hyper memory and CPU core multiplier...
BTW, this afternoon i did a very quick session with the last 2 litres of LN2 left yesterday.

vcore 1.95 volt in BIOS and pot only leaned on the CPU

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/1910523.png

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1910523

http://mafio.host56.com/imagehosting/?dt=313108338895 http://mafio.host56.com/imagehosting/?dt=613108339318
07-17-2011, 02:22 PM
brains11

Quote:

Originally Posted by almighty15

After my 790FX GD70 and I contacted MSI for anr RMA and after MONTHS of waiting I never heard a single peep from them, So I tossed it in the bin and got a Crosshair 4 Extreme.

I'll never buy MSI again.

I get my RMA from MSI with in a couple days. From sent to recieve. Make sure you either state your problem or talk to a tech. Their office is a couple blocks from Newegg, in my neck of the woods anyways.

Hope this motherboard is nice. I have a built K9A2 Platinum, 790FX, 890FX systems. They keep getting better, however it seems with this board it is a ship without a captain for now. Also MSI support english forums are horrible. The beta german forum is nice.
08-03-2011, 05:36 PM
ah_khoo

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for d fun of ram clockin... :D

Attachment 118624

but sadly when cpu multi > 8x & imc multi > 9x, system is unbootable... :(
08-04-2011, 12:37 AM
Mafio

last WE i had time to test my AMD setup, here is what came out...

http://mafio.host56.com/imagehosting/?dm=1613121428363 http://mafio.host56.com/imagehosting/?dm=6131214283616

3 cores out of 4 reach 6840 MHz, the other one looks a tad worse.
i've the feeling that should be something more in this CPU, i will retest this stuff in the next few days hoping for the big 7. :D

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/1931318.png

this 1M is REALLY crappy, MSI should make something with next bios. :D

http://mafio.host56.com/imagehosting/?dm=16131214265116
08-04-2011, 12:46 AM
ah_khoo

^ thanks for sharing sir. awesome clocks u have there... :up:

btw, i've forwarded u the latest beta bios... check ya email... ;)
08-04-2011, 12:52 AM
Mafio

thanks alot.
i'm going to try it now, no LN2 but air is enough to see if there are some improvements regarding memory overclock.
08-05-2011, 11:40 AM
Mafio

round 2 . . .

config:

Quote:

Phenom II x4 955 B.E.
MSI 990FXA-GD80 :: bios 11.2 / B20
Kingston HyperX 2000 cas8 :: Elpida MGH-E-Hyper
Geffo 6200 LE PCI-E
PC P&C 1200
Seagate 120 GB sata
Guglio's CPU pot rev 2.0 :: best CPU pot ever

http://mafio.host56.com/imagehosting/?dm=813125647892 http://mafio.host56.com/imagehosting/?dm=1513125648355

this MSI isn't a fast mobo, so i spent most of my time trying to get a good CPUZ validate.
after a lot of hours and effort i got a good 6960 MHz.

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/1939088.png

CPUZ valid :: HwBot link

http://mafio.host56.com/imagehosting/?dm=4131256483513 http://mafio.host56.com/imagehosting/?dm=413125647390

after than this, with the latest litres of LN2, i did a Pifast.
with this not so efficient board i'm quite satisfied, 17.08 doesn't looks so bad.
CPU mch looks quite crappy and BIOS doesn't like Hyper ICs based RAM, i have to try with a different memory.

http://mafio.host56.com/imagehosting/?dm=713125649050

HwBot link

these results are for my friend Guglielmo and for the whole HwProject team.
i must thank also ah_khoo for his support. :)

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