AMD to launch desktop Bulldozer "Zambezi" at E3 Show in L.A. (June 7-9)

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03-02-2011, 09:54 AM
MrMojoZ

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Originally Posted by Glow9

I am too but I'm going to prolly piss myself with rage if it isn't out buy then. I've waited like 4 years for this stupid thing if it doesn't I'm buying a $300 whatever the hell Intel has to offer.

I'm sure when it does launch you'll find something else to be in a rage over.
03-02-2011, 10:25 AM
FlanK3r

Im curious at new wallpapers and screens "Scorpion" platform. Remember in review day Phenosm II nice screenshots of Dragons and later diferents wallpapers Dragon platforms. Hope, AMD will make now some simillary :). I have 2 years old wallpaper :D
03-02-2011, 10:27 AM
N19h7m4r3

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Originally Posted by FlanK3r

Im curious at new wallpapers and screens "Scorpion" platform. Remember in review day Phenosm II nice screenshots of Dragons and later diferents wallpapers Dragon platforms. Hope, AMD will make now some simillary :). I have 2 years old wallpaper :D

Has it really been that long?

My how time flies!
03-02-2011, 10:31 AM
Mats

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Originally Posted by MrMojoZ

I'm sure when it does launch you'll find something else to be in a rage over.

Yeah, like how soon AM3+ will be replaced..
:wasntme:
03-02-2011, 10:36 AM
Manicdan

i dont think DDR4 will be all that special right away, the specs for max DDR3 have overlap with DDR4, and then theres the cost of the new ram, and the fact its a safe bet AM4 cpus will be compatible with AM3+

AM2+ lasted up until.... more than now... since you can drop a thuban into AM2+. i would say that platform dies once BD is out. if anything its AM3 that didnt last very long
03-02-2011, 10:40 AM
RaV666

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Originally Posted by Mats

Yeah, like how soon AM3+ will be replaced..
:wasntme:

Thats easy, 1 year.BD ver 2.0 will need new socket.
03-02-2011, 10:57 AM
Glow9

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Originally Posted by MrMojoZ

I'm sure when it does launch you'll find something else to be in a rage over.

I feel like I have a right to be bitter been waiting for 4 years for AMD to come out with something decent.

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Originally Posted by god_43

lol i was beginning to think that BD was the new duke nukem forever!

This x100000000 I have more hope for Duke Nukem at this point considering we've at least seen working footage of the game.

Dear AMD send me something working to shut me up, I want to be excited again.
03-02-2011, 11:10 AM
god_43

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Originally Posted by Glow9

I feel like I have a right to be bitter been waiting for 4 years for AMD to come out with something decent.

This x100000000 I have more hope for Duke Nukem at this point considering we've at least seen working footage of the game.

Dear AMD send me something working to shut me up, I want to be excited again.

bah dont worry glow baby, be happy (....like the fish in my office always says to me....)! we are in the home stretch, i think we are all anxious just because it is so close.
03-02-2011, 11:11 AM
N19h7m4r3

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Originally Posted by Glow9

I feel like I have a right to be bitter been waiting for 4 years for AMD to come out with something decent.

Im still on AM2+, only got that thanks to an RMA where they upgraded me from my old AM2 board.

So I've been waiting for BD for quite some time.

Either way I wouldn't really care if a new socket get released after a year. I'll still be using the same one.
03-02-2011, 11:20 AM
Oliverda

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

i dont think DDR4 will be all that special right away, the specs for max DDR3 have overlap with DDR4, and then theres the cost of the new ram, and the fact its a safe bet AM4 cpus will be compatible with AM3+

AM2+ lasted up until.... more than now... since you can drop a thuban into AM2+. i would say that platform dies once BD is out. if anything its AM3 that didnt last very long

Here is my very simple socket roadmap for this topic:

http://logout.hu/dl/upc/2010-11/13063_socketroadmap.png
03-02-2011, 11:27 AM
Manicdan

that chart implies an AM3 cpu works with AM2 and AM2+? i thought it was only AM2
03-02-2011, 11:28 AM
qcmadness

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

i dont think DDR4 will be all that special right away, the specs for max DDR3 have overlap with DDR4, and then theres the cost of the new ram, and the fact its a safe bet AM4 cpus will be compatible with AM3+

AM2+ lasted up until.... more than now... since you can drop a thuban into AM2+. i would say that platform dies once BD is out. if anything its AM3 that didnt last very long

amd may go lga after socket am3+
03-02-2011, 11:30 AM
Oliverda

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

that chart implies an AM3 cpu works with AM2 and AM2+? i thought it was only AM2

It works with both AM2 and AM2+. It mainly depends on the BIOS support.
03-02-2011, 11:35 AM
Glow9

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Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3

Im still on AM2+, only got that thanks to an RMA where they upgraded me from my old AM2 board.

So I've been waiting for BD for quite some time.

Either way I wouldn't really care if a new socket get released after a year. I'll still be using the same one.

I like having an upgrade path thats all. I hate buying multiple boards to me just seems like a big waste of metal, pcb, oil, ect. Longevity of a board is really good for all of us and our pocket books.
03-02-2011, 11:40 AM
N19h7m4r3

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Originally Posted by Glow9

I like having an upgrade path thats all. I hate buying multiple boards to me just seems like a big waste of metal, pcb, oil, ect. Longevity of a board is really good for all of us and our pocket books.

Well so far we have had great longevity with AM2 boards.

Also given how different BD is to all the other CPU, a new socket is understandable.

Also since we have very little info on it and the new sockets, we don't know if they really will bring out a new socket after a year. Even if they do, it's likely the new cpus for it will also fit in the previous socket.
03-02-2011, 11:51 AM
AbortRetryFail?

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Originally Posted by Oliverda

Here is a 2010 October update:

http://prohardver.hu/dl/upc/2010-12/13063_llano3.jpg

But this doesn't necessarily mean that the launch has been moved forward.

Probably because AMD is a US based company.

My recollection (or possible hallucination ? :eek: ) is this was roughly the timeframe that AMD announced Llano moving back a 'quarter'. This all followed yer typical Internet supposition that rolled (roiled?-LOL) TSMC 40/28nm and GF 32nm gate-first yield issues together somewhat -- and the folks in-the-know were not talking. IIRC, Dirk even came out and said, "There are not yield issues with gate-first ... "

All 'supposition' seemed 'agenda' fueled (for some reason 'savantu' keeps flashing in my head) ...
03-02-2011, 11:51 AM
Aten-Ra

Dresdenboy have found the following.........VERY interesting

http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/...&postcount=365

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Significant Upgrade in June 2011 – 232 AMD 2.3 GHz 16-core Opteron Interlagos processors – 3,712 compute cores, 116 32-core nodes – 7.4 TB DDR3 memory, 64 GB/node, 2.0 GB/core

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In June 2011, a 720-teraflop Cray XE6 system will be added to Gaea. It will employ the next-generation AMD Interlagos 16-core processor. After the installation of that second system, the original 260-teraflop system will be upgraded with the same AMD Interlagos processor to achieve 386 teraflops.

So it seams Desktop Bulldozer will be released before June ;)
03-02-2011, 12:05 PM
xVeinx

Cray has the ability to get an early allotment of the processors, though the fact that they are server grade does make me wonder... Maybe Bulldozer will be here sooner than we think? Does anyone know whether Cray and other HPC companies upgrade systems prior to actual release of a product? I vaguely recall this type of thing happening before, prior to product launch...
03-02-2011, 12:12 PM
Glow9

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Originally Posted by Aten-Ra

So it seams Desktop Bulldozer will be released before June ;)

June 1 is my B-day so that's my deadline. I'd like to treat myself to building a new comp. :bday2: You hear that AMD?
03-02-2011, 12:22 PM
generics_user

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Originally Posted by xVeinx

Cray has the ability to get an early allotment of the processors, though the fact that they are server grade does make me wonder... Maybe Bulldozer will be here sooner than we think? Does anyone know whether Cray and other HPC companies upgrade systems prior to actual release of a product? I vaguely recall this type of thing happening before, prior to product launch...

iirc Cray was the first to use 6-Core Istanbul and 4-Core Shanghai, before OEM systems became available

and if you take a look at the latest roadmap desktop schedule is 1Q before server schedule; the april-may rumor is getting more and more likely :)

i hope that BD brings some price slashes to SB so i can do a cheap upgrade to i7 2xxx and the new zotac H67 board (i miss my raid 5...)
03-02-2011, 02:22 PM
Mats

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

i dont think DDR4 will be all that special right away, the specs for max DDR3 have overlap with DDR4, and then theres the cost of the new ram, and the fact its a safe bet AM4 cpus will be compatible with AM3+

The reason for socket change has more to do with on die PCIe controller etc. and less about RAM standard (which haven't been an upgrade issue since the DDR2 introduction five years ago.).
03-04-2011, 06:18 PM
Glow9

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Originally Posted by god_43

bah dont worry glow baby, be happy (....like the fish in my office always says to me....)! we are in the home stretch, i think we are all anxious just because it is so close.

Definitely one of my favorite responses to one of my posts. lol yeah no kidding I've been waiting so long, can't wait.
03-04-2011, 06:30 PM
god_43

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Originally Posted by Glow9

Definitely one of my favorite responses to one of my posts. lol yeah no kidding I've been waiting so long, can't wait.

:up:
03-04-2011, 10:02 PM
saaya

Outdated roadmaps, exciting.... this thread will go places... :D
03-05-2011, 02:31 AM
Syn.

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Originally Posted by saaya

Outdated roadmaps, exciting.... this thread will go places... :D

I am bloody excited even with an outdated roadmap!!!! :D

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