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Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
2x 580GTX with two 8 pin... as long as it's full 580GTX clocks and out before the 6990 I will get this. hopefully it has a good fan on it like the 5970. The 9800Gx2 and the 295 had weak fans on them.
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Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
2x 580GTX with two 8 pin... as long as it's full 580GTX clocks and out before the 6990 I will get this. hopefully it has a good fan on it like the 5970. The 9800Gx2 and the 295 had weak fans on them.
Appearances can be deceptive, but those are not the most robust-looking power circuits, considering what would be asked of them in a GTX580 x2 situation.
Considering it is just a prototype, I doubt that will be what ends up in retail.Quote:
Originally Posted by MpG
That is absolutely impossible...Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
If a GTX580 with full clocks has a TDP of 244W that would make a 488W TDP card...
That is impossible.... even with water cooling would be really dificult to cool it...
dont underestimate the power of watercoolingQuote:
Originally Posted by Sesto Sento
i think a 570 is possible, but with a few issues. first TDP isnt the draw power, so they will probably only cool the cores and VRMs, ignore the ram ans shave off some power. so if the 570 is drawing 200W a piece, then they still have to figure out how to get 100W dropped off. sharing a board and not cooling as many things as possible can probably achieve 20-40W. so im thinking a downcloked 570 is going to be required.
They could always power it with external power adaptar, I remember an really old ATi Rage card that had one of them, don't see why they can't do it today, I don't see cooling an problem, take whatever it takes to cool one and just double it?
If the card is big, so be it, but it would only be aimed at a tiny market.
We've seen stuff like this before but never materialize. And why would something like this be leaked anyway? If you look at it, there is no power connectors, no dvi connectors, missing caps, etc. What is being shown is a non "PC" PCB layout. Heck, no one can confirm if the gpus are real or not. And there is something about that second IHS that looks chopped to me. :p:
On the other hand, if they are working on such a card that (to me) would explain the 6900 series delay.
PCIe compliance. Plus, can you imagine the hoopla that would occur over a GPU that requires an external PSU? NVIDIA wouldn't be able to spin that any sorts of positive.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronWarrior
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Originally Posted by Manicdan
I'm not underestimating the power of water cooling... just saying that cooling a 488W TDP Card would be really, really difficult...
GTX595, if done, it as to be with some downclocked GTX570's...
2x block only coolers, connected to 2x single 120mm radiators, is more than enough to keep it cooler than any normal air cooled single gpu option that OEMs use. so if we use a full cover block and a 120x2 radiator, its plenty to keep it under 70C. but most people when they go with WC love to see sub 40C load temps, which is why you see more extreme setups than "good enough" setups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sesto Sento
i agree with you, it's doable. No doubt about it.
But with a cooling solution like that, do you imagine the final price of the card???
NVidia would not be dumb enough to release a card that costs $1000 (forget special edition cards like 5970 4gb), because even if they had the performance crown with that kind of monster card, they would loose instantly the battle just because of the absurd cost of the card...
Curious, but in pure speculation, would 3.0 be able to handle a dual 580? PCI-SIG released 3.0.
cant you just stick another 8pin pcie conector on there for a total of 3*150W+75W = 525W :DQuote:
Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler
btw, 3dfx did that back in the day with the Voodoo 6000........
That's the one! I remember now.Quote:
Originally Posted by skycrane
Hmm, maybe external power adaptar will be the future for GPU's, as we all see GPU's are starting to need more and more power.
Can current or future PSU's and even Motherboards keep up with the demand to supply the power for the next generation of graphic cards?
Source: http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/ite...s-for-antillesQuote:
Nvidia has a dual GF110 card that is supposed to launch very soon. However, since AMD has postponed its dual-chip card for Q1 2011 it looks like Nvidia will do the same.
I don't know if we can call this a credible source but maybe it is true.:shrug:
The OP is about an article which is listing as a source somebody forum post, well i hope they are right but I wonder if somebody forums post is worth a news thread.
Anyway there were same rumors about NVIDIA dual GPU card ready for November 2009 launch. Good I didn't believe such rumor and bought the HD 5970 otherwise one year later I would be still waiting for the NVIDIA dual GPU card.
Today the Fud has also an article "Nvidia's dual chip card waits for Antilles", the only problem is that Fud also predicted the dual Fermi launch for November 2009.
In today article he also says "Sources close to company are saying that Nvidia partners are more or less ready and that the company can pull a quick launch even in 2010, but it looks like it will only happen after AMD's Antilles Radeon HD 6990 dual chip card comes out"
First question, why wait for Antilles when so many people on this forum say how important is to have the cards ready for Christmas and nobody but AMD knows when in Q1 2011 we get the Antilles. I just hope AMD is not going to wait for Nvidia to come with the dual card first because in that case we will have them both just waiting. :)
The second question is, why the partners have to be ready if such cards comes from Nvidia or is it just some special limited edition by some of the partners not within the PCI-e standard limitations since such cards usually cost arm and leg.
that looks alot like when the rumor on the gf100x2 was out and before they raised the tdp specs
each 580gtx is about 240-250W, each 8 pin is 150W and the slot is 75W, so if u are working with 375W and u have a 20W bridge, so if they underclock it like ati did with the 5970 it should work but i dont think that it would faster than 2x 104 if thye dropped the gpu/ram/pwm for each card to the ~175W range it would need.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaidev
also if this is a demo card u dont have to comply with pci-e specs, they could vary well add in another 8 pin, but then i dont see how u would cool over 400W on a slot cooler without going liquid only
Oh noes I need mass monies !!!
I don't see why you guys are so boxed-in with your thinking... The TDP "limit" is just a cooling limitation at this point. There's no technical reasons why a 3rd 6pin or 8pin connector can't be added, if need be. If one sets a dedicated loop up for his video card, then one can easily remove upwards of 300w from a single block.
adding extra connectors is easy, the thing that bring up this magical 300watt limit is the PCI-E regulations for power usage. 300watts is the max even though more is entirely possible buy adding more connectors.Quote:
Originally Posted by antiacid
This type of card is possible, but i doubt it would be full GTX 580's it is possible they use full 512sp parts but down-clock them substantially. however i think that we would end up seeing a pair of Down-clocked 480sp parts. also remember that this will use less power because of one PCB which saves a good bunch of power. also other improvements can be made, undervloting parts and the like. also if they keep with the vapor chamber cooler I think they could cool a dual 570 card just as well as the 5970...
people seem to think Antilles is possible but this is not. i don't really get that. lets get real this is not a full dual 580 just like the 295 was not a dual 285...
The Asus ares does not need an external psu. Besides my 1500 silverstone could power the card.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler
Screw pcie compliance Asus did
is it possible that we see a dual 470gtx or gf114x2 ...
cause as most r concerned and nvidia has never brought a gpu which is a pair of its top notch chips ... gtx295 was also never a 2x285gtx ...
may be another contender can be 2x570gtx ...
but making a 2x580gtx doesnt make sense from marketing point of view ... a pair of downclocked 512sp chips which will be giving enventually the horsepower equal to 2x488 sp chips then y use a full gf110???
apart from that ... can a vapour chamber cooling handle a 400w+ combo with a dual slot width of cooler???
asus ares is a coustom built top of the line gpu not for mass production ... more of a art collection piece than every joez main gpu!
but lets hope ... 595gtx pushes the bounderies this time and we actually get a 1000$ gpu (or a 850$ in extreme case
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Originally Posted by LAMB OF GOD
If that is true why can you buy it?
http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CFUQ8wIwAg#
by definition the card was mass produced.
Mass production (also called flow production, repetitive flow production, series production, or serial production) is the production of large amounts of standardized products, including and especially on assembly lines.
@safan thankx bro for the correction :)
but what about the other part ...
@safan thankx bro for the correction :)
but what about the other part ...