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How about distilled water and a biocide Mlwood?Quote:
Originally Posted by mlwood37
Run what is proven to work, heck with the rest.
Sorry, that means all your work is naught. I really think this idea should just go away.
Make it simple, make it work.
Well with thinking like this go back to stock speeds, stock hsf and 80mm fans in a beige case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conumdrum
Seriously
The guy had a werid reactions in his loop with a fairly new product.
Which mlwood has improved and looks to be trying to sort out what happened. If it was a bunch of people maybe it might be a bad product but if it was we woulda heard more.
As it is we know the optical brightener seems to be involved.
But what actually happened nobody's sure of.
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Agreed MagisD. Not sure what caused it.:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by MagisD
Distilled and a biocide sure doesn't.:up:
I will keep preaching that till there is a solution to the needed bling color issue. We building PC's or colored tubing setups?:confused:
Conumdrum: Why you fight so agressively against existence of other opinions/preferences? To each his own. While i'm also in distilled+biocide camp, i never thought that i should start holy war because of that against people with different wishes/opinions :P
I wouldn't worry too much churchy - there are going to be people who say never use any colored coolants - and, it's hard to argue with the logic. I think some of the experienced folks (like Conundrum) who spend a lot of time helping new folks, may get a bit tired of answering the same questions.
However, there are going to be people who want to put some color in their loop - and for those people we need folks like mlwood to keep experimenting.
I've used enough colored coolants to be comfortable doing so - but I also know it is adding extra risk and something you need to keep an eye on. I'll always recommend that someone new to liquid cooling stay away from the colored coolants ... but once you are aware of the risks - have at it. Just be careful.
shazza: i just really like & aplaud mlwood's efforts to make quality product and stand behind it. Few posts in this thread clearly shown that he is ready to go to great lengths to help find and solve problems with his products if there are such. Even if that's not my piece of bread, i don't want to see vendors that actively work with community and actively try to improve/fix their products to be bashed and at one point giving up and just leaving our hobby as something not worth to keep working for.
Yes, distilled can be most maintenance free coolant, but from what i've read about mlwood's products, they seem to be regarded by many as less problematic then many other coolant premixes sold out there. I got impression that these deyes are widely used, so imho any serious issues with them should have been noticed long time ago. From Diverge's & mlwood's posts it seems that too high concentration and usage of old/pulled product might have played a role in that copper oxidating?
i have heard of people adding too much biocide(pt nuke) and causing an acidic reaction in their loop, so i don't agree with you saying that it never happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conumdrum
according to mlwood, his uv dye doesn't gunk, doesn't stain, etc etc, because it isn't even a dye
UV Clear Blue - Will not gunk or stain if used normally as is not a Dye.Quote:
Originally Posted by penguins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_brightener
Any of my other colours will stain as they are dyes. How ever they will not block a system as they are just a dye. Nothing more.
How ever they do add more to water yes and they do make maintenance of a water cooling system a little harder as you have to keep an eye on it You have to regular clean it ect ect.
I under stand there are two camps in water cooling. And i have nothing against either to me its a free world and im not here to take sides. I my self have all ways liked to create colour and be different hence why I started looking to make better ones.