Yes should be really better a GTX460 x2Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
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Yes should be really better a GTX460 x2Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
If the 490 GTX turns out to be two 460's in one card, I'm not impressed. Two of them can't even beat a 5970, as I saw in benchmarks.
Higher clocked or fully unlocked are going to end up faster without a problem.
If its consistently faster than a 5970 its gonna be sweet irrespective of which chip they used. But with only 2 x 460 (as we know it) that's not possible so most likely these are chips that have fully unlocked (special binning ?)
Not sure Nvidia want a dual gpu thats slower than ATI so its going to have to be faster , now what worries me is what the hell is it going to cost to us.
Without it being official, I'd say 499$ :)
And then add the price gouging from the stores at launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
499$ means close to 5970 but not outright faster (very likely since one is 2 460 variants and the other is 2 5870 with lowered clocks)
It also means there will be changes in pricing on both sides , for the better !!!
I'm really enjoying these gpu battles !! (speculative but hey we know both sides are getting some great stuff to us soon)
Next 6-7 months could be a real gpu roller coaster I fully expect ATI to get something like 5890 (improved 5870) to us pretty soon.
Did I mention this is fun :D
Not too suprising is it? A GF104 x2 card was like bound to happen, I just wish it has 384 cuda cores and perhaps they release a single gpu variant of it as well at around $250. If x2 variant would be using 384 cuda cores, this thing I'd bet it would run for more than $499, $499 sounds like a suitable price for a x2 GTX460 card, 550~$599 for a fully unlocked GF104 variant IMO that might be around HD5970 levels - 7% faster.
The dual-GPU fermi board will be tweaked just to surpass the 5970 a tad.
I hope it performs just equal to, or just a few % below/above 5970, because otherwise it can get expensive.
If it doesn't beat 5970 with a good enough margin to tempt nVidia for milking prices, then it can end up really cheap, and tear apart all these ridiculously high prices in this round.
the asus mars is just a ridiculous experiment.
the only thing a gtx490 could be is dual gf104.
and with the right chips it could compete well with 5970. it doesnt have to beat 5970 at everything. it will cost less to make than 5970, so even if it is slower half the time, they can afford to undercut the 5970 price to make it fair.
they are collecting and binning the gf104 parts by function and voltage right now. they have them piling up. YOU guess what they are going to use them for.
The "GTX 490" is rumored to be 2x GF104 (with 384 SP, 1 GB memory, high-ish clock speeds). That and "GTX 475", which is a single-GPU GF104 card with 384 SP, 1 or 2 GB memory, high-clock speeds, and 4-way SLI capability. NV's winter 2010 catalogue for enthusiasts :)
They can beat a 5970 with a not too extreme overclock in a lot of cases. Also, for the GTX490, I would strongly bet that it will be dual GF104 with all 8 SMs enabled, and faster clocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrono Detector
You mean $599? You realize the cheapest GTX480 is $459?Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
There's a price cut in effect for the latest shipments ( it should go as down as 399$ ) and another one in the near future ( as soon as the GTX490 gets released ).Quote:
Originally Posted by ElSel10
Worst case scenario would be a 549$ launch price for the GTX490 :)
14% more shaders + 10% higher clocks speeds should be able to beat a 5970 as the current lead is 10 % over SLI gtx 460's.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElSel10
If NV did charge 499 and kept at this price, NV would gain a long term customer from me because it would appear their pricing would be super fair honestly compared to AMD as of late which has been raping the customer.
You are very optimistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElSel10
2 x GTX480 = $900
1 x GTX490 if 2 x GTX480 = $799
sexy :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
You should pretty much expect any company to gouge in the absence of competition. Nvidia did it with G80.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
This is going to be like 1200EUR
more like two full GF104s (384 SPs) at moderate clocks... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Chrono Detector
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Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
349$ for a dual gpu card??? LOLL
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Originally Posted by madcho
FAIL!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
With all this good news coming, sounds like Nvidia will finally be somewhat competitive again. And AMD can finally drop their prices on their HD 5XXX series!!
why be a fan-boy, just except the the tech : )
Asus informed their press partners NOT to release this almost immediately after sending out the pictures. Apparently no one at TPU listened... :/
(edit: apparently the European Asus offices didn't request the pull)
Probably is x2 GF104 with all its cluster enable (full potential)