AMD Phenom X6 1090T Black Edition & 1055T launch on 4/27

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03-21-2010, 08:39 AM
ajaidev

If its a BE and the multi is locked AMD made a bad choice but if its not a BE and has locked multi its good then.

I do think the tread i made about the Mass production being the key for AMD is of central relevance. Its not very easy to imagine how AMD will compete against Intel with huge hex cores unless you take the mass production and low defect rate into account.

As for the 3.2Ghz with 400mhz turbo on 125W bravo AMD.
03-21-2010, 08:40 AM
flippin_waffles

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliverda

940 was 4x3.0ghz for 125w. Now we have 945 with 95W TDP and will have 955 with 95W TDP soon.

Q7: How does AMD determine when to transition to a new process technology generation?

A7: AMD transitions to a new process technology generation when it is right for our customers and right for the company.

A common misconception is that being first to a new process technology generation is the fundamental determinant of performance and energy efficiency leadership. AMD has
proven this to be false.

Rather than the more costly and higher-risk method of making a full technology transition every two years, AMD uses a unique and highly efficient method called Continuous Technology Improvement (CTI).

CTI allows us to maximize the benefits and increase the return on investment of a single process technology generation for as long as possible by evolving and improving the transistor designs within that generation. This is why at many points in our history our processors and platforms have remained competitive, even when compared against those from our competitors based on the next process technology generation.

AMD 45nm Process Technology Generation - Fact Sheet/FAQ/Q&A

Nice. I've always been impressed by the engineers at AMD being able to effectively do what the pundits and marketing FUD says they cannot.
03-21-2010, 08:43 AM
[XC] Oj101

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrono Detector

I don't understand, all of AMD's CPU's that are called "Black Edition" comes with an unlocked multiplier, why call it a Black Edition if it comes with a locked multiplier?

The 6400+ Black Edition was locked ;)
03-21-2010, 09:02 AM
TheBlueChanell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oj101

The 6400+ Black Edition was locked ;)

What is the point of labeling it a black edition than? There is nothing gained in comparison to a non black edition model.

Either way it's going to be a good chip.
03-21-2010, 09:03 AM
Oliverda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oj101

The 6400+ Black Edition was locked ;)

It was unlocked. I had one.

Black Edition = unlocked multi
03-21-2010, 09:37 AM
[XC] Oj101

The first were unlocked, the later ones weren't. My unlocked one was RMAd with a locked one, the only thing 'special' about it was it didn't come with a fan.
03-21-2010, 09:50 AM
EnJoY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oj101

The first were unlocked, the later ones weren't. My unlocked one was RMAd with a locked one, the only thing 'special' about it was it didn't come with a fan.

Then it wasn't a black edition anymore.

All BE's are unlocked, always have been. Just like FX.
03-21-2010, 10:16 AM
Mats

Soo how many cores are active when running att max turbo speed?
03-21-2010, 10:31 AM
[XC] Oj101

Even though it came in a BE box without a heatsink?
03-21-2010, 10:38 AM
EnJoY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oj101

Even though it came in a BE box without a heatsink?

Even more so, that sounds like you got a refurb chip. Or am I just misunderstanding what your saying?
03-21-2010, 10:52 AM
[XC] Oj101

No, you're getting me correctly. I had an unlocked 6400+ which died, I received a locked 6400+ in a Black Edition box (without heatsink) that was still sealed :confused: I don't really mind as I never clocked either of them, it's just strange.
03-21-2010, 11:03 AM
FatAlbert

As I remember 90nm x2 6400+ was locked at x16.
03-21-2010, 11:23 AM
Kuroimaho

There was a 6400+ BE which was unlocked and later they released a locked 6400+. That was probably a mixup on the RMA.

Link to the box.
03-21-2010, 11:30 AM
Sn0wm@n

amd is full of win lately

ati and now amd pricing these at a decent price ....
03-21-2010, 11:47 AM
FatAlbert

well,

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=190208

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=183090
03-21-2010, 12:22 PM
FlanK3r

hmmm, x6 1090T? really, someone can it confirmed? I want one :)
03-21-2010, 12:24 PM
Shadov

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

hmmm, x6 1090T? really, someone can it confirmed? I want one :)

3,2 Ghz and 3,6 Ghz Turbo seem impressive.

Who needs overpriced Intel crap? :p:
03-21-2010, 12:38 PM
STaRGaZeR

If most of your applications are multithreaded, with that price/perfomance/power consumption these are THE processors you want to buy for sure.
03-21-2010, 01:06 PM
RaV[666]

Not only only well multithreaded apps.I really enjoy doing multiple things at once since i got 4 cores.Encoding a movie, ripping a movie and playing dragon age at the same time is really where its at ;-).Or declare 4 cores to crunching and play on another two.Damn i think i will be needing 8 cores.Theres all this plus watching 1080P x264 movies :P.
All in all every power user wants more cores.Not only workstation users.
03-21-2010, 01:52 PM
[XC] Oj101

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuroimaho

There was a 6400+ BE which was unlocked and later they released a locked 6400+. That was probably a mixup on the RMA.

Link to the box.

My box was black :/
03-21-2010, 02:06 PM
Sam_oslo

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

Now these are serious clock speeds,both stock and Turbo. The 3.2Ghz model and its 125W TDP was a bit unexpected ,but I guess its AMD's CTI program at work. With 3.6Ghz Turbo,the 1090T will be faster than 965BE by a good deal in single-thread workloads and totally will blow it away in MT ones. Same goes for 1055T with 3.3Ghz Turbo and 6 cores @ 2.8Ghz.

EDIT:

Oh my oh my,courtesy of planet3dnow forum and user Opteron ;) :
http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/...postcount=3102

Initial price is 286e for 1090T model :).

http://www.abload.de/img/1090tp3n5.png
]http://www.abload.de/img/1090t214pm.png[/IMG]
http://www.abload.de/img/1090t31fwd.png[/IMG]

1055T model initial price=213e

Hey Microplex is my local dealer. Shall I order one? It is so cheap (compared to Intel's six-core) that i could order it just for fun.
03-21-2010, 02:21 PM
STaRGaZeR

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaV[666]

Not only only well multithreaded apps.I really enjoy doing multiple things at once since i got 4 cores.Encoding a movie, ripping a movie and playing dragon age at the same time is really where its at ;-).Or declare 4 cores to crunching and play on another two.Damn i think i will be needing 8 cores.Theres all this plus watching 1080P x264 movies :P.
All in all every power user wants more cores.Not only workstation users.

Indeed, you can consider multitasking as a big multithreaded app. However, this processor still lacks per core perfomance like all other PhenomII processors compared to Intel's. You'll still get lower framerates when you game, or slower fps in x264 for the same number of cores, etc. That's why it's "only" good for multithreaded workloads.
03-21-2010, 02:59 PM
Opteron146

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oj101

The first were unlocked, the later ones weren't. My unlocked one was RMAd with a locked one, the only thing 'special' about it was it didn't come with a fan.

Which OPN was it ?

Black Editions always have a "Z" in the OPN compared to an ordinary one.

You can see that "Z" also in the 1090's OPN:

Quote:

HDT90ZFBGRBOX

compared to the 1055's OPN:

Quote:

HDT55TFBGRBOX

@informal:
You are welcome ;-)

cheers

Opteron
03-21-2010, 03:02 PM
demonkevy666

Quote:

Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR

Indeed, you can consider multitasking as a big multithreaded app. However, this processor still lacks per core perfomance like all other PhenomII processors compared to Intel's. You'll still get lower framerates when you game, or slower fps in x264 for the same number of cores, etc. That's why it's "only" good for multithreaded workloads.

http://www.legionhardware.com/articl...hd_5970,2.html
03-21-2010, 03:17 PM
Lightman

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajaidev

I dont understand the 1090T codename??

1035-1055-1075 and then 1090 ?? why shouldn't it have been 1095T

I think is has something to do with 'only' 400MHz turbo compared to 500MHz for 1035-1055-1075 models maybe?
Just a guess ...

Also I must say I'm really surprised by 125W TDP of this chip (if true)!
Even if it will be 140W I'm doing same as Mechromancer :yepp:

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