MSI to launch AMD 890FX mainboard 890FX-GD70 next year

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12-10-2009, 12:55 PM
Sparky

To be honest I like the 790FX heatsinks better. The blue plastic looking cover looks a bit funky IMO :p: But minor detail.

For the little on-board buttons, I'd prefer real buttons because less likely to act up, and also cheaper - no need for the more expensive capacitive buttons that cost more.
12-10-2009, 01:02 PM
skugpezz

I like everything, but there is no space for heatsink
12-10-2009, 02:19 PM
Starscream

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Originally Posted by Knight

I thought those are capacitive buttons. Where the contact by your finger will complete the circuit.

Didnt know that. Its a cool thing unles u have realy big fingers.
12-10-2009, 02:27 PM
Oliverda

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

To be honest I like the 790FX heatsinks better. The blue plastic looking cover looks a bit funky IMO :p: But minor detail.

For the little on-board buttons, I'd prefer real buttons because less likely to act up, and also cheaper - no need for the more expensive capacitive buttons that cost more.

I agree.

The real buttons maybe a more expensive solution.:D
12-10-2009, 03:06 PM
[XC] Oj101

It looks pretty good, I see it has a coolaler logo on it as well :p:
12-10-2009, 04:43 PM
haylui

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

a little to much PCIe?

if you go to the link it goes over a few basics in a language i cant read, but did see the words USB3.0 and SATA3

sofar i love it, but i wonder if it will be overpriced being out so early, and how obsolete it will be for BD

I think first gen BD will be using AM3 socket since it doesn't have a graphic chip
12-10-2009, 04:53 PM
Oliverda

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Originally Posted by haylui

I think first gen BD will be using AM3 socket since it doesn't have a graphic chip

It will.

http://prohardver.hu/dl/upc/2009-12/13063_amd_rmap.png
12-10-2009, 04:57 PM
Manicdan

will this board let you unlock extra cpu cores?
12-10-2009, 09:48 PM
Glow9

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Originally Posted by Sh1tyMcGee

More companies should go in MSI's direction for layout and looks, black/blue/white looks great.

Whenever a brands board is doing well Asus soon adopts the same colors just wait for it.
But yeah Kinda stupid with the mass amount of pci-e slots. I would have liked to see them keep an extra Lan port and scrap 2 of those pci-e slots.

OH WOW! Is that a rear CMOS reset button I see there?!?! Please tell me it is.
12-10-2009, 09:59 PM
Smartidiot89

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Originally Posted by Glow9

Whenever a brands board is doing well Asus soon adopts the same colors just wait for it.
But yeah Kinda stupid with the mass amount of pci-e slots. I would have liked to see them keep an extra Lan port and scrap 2 of those pci-e slots.

OH WOW! Is that a rear CMOS reset button I see there?!?! Please tell me it is.

I like the PCI-E ports, gives a user the option to put he's Graphicscard pretty much wherever he wants:up:
12-10-2009, 10:08 PM
[XC] gomeler

Looks good, hopefully the PCIe layout will give enough bandwidth to the right slots for 4x HD5870. Should be fun with a 6-core black edition CPU.
12-10-2009, 10:08 PM
ajaidev

Humm this will be a gr8 upgrade for my 790 GD70 quad 5850 crunching system, but then again i'll have to buy 2 new 5850's well i'll wait till 5850 costs much less...

I have sent my 790 GD70 for RMA maybe they will send me this instead :)
12-10-2009, 10:10 PM
Glow9

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Originally Posted by Smartidiot89

I like the PCI-E ports, gives a user the option to put he's Graphicscard pretty much wherever he wants:up:

You should buy one and tell us which port gives the best performance. It's like testing ram slots for best performance but much more time consuming haha.
12-10-2009, 10:20 PM
ajaidev

Its a nice mobo overall, i see it has LED3 and just to think BD may sit in this very mobo after 8-10 months is quite a nice dream.

What i want from a upgraded mobo in this chip-set is Vkit and OC Dashboard....

Quantum wave audio card sucks and so does the super pipe...
12-10-2009, 10:42 PM
ubuntu83

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Originally Posted by informal

Orochi(BD based) is AM3 also,so it won't be any more obsolete than any other AM3 board.It will have a new chipset so if anything else it will provide probably better support for BD cores than the rest of (current) AM3 line-up.

doesn't BD support quad channel RAM or is it for servers only? All I can see here is dual channel DDR3 slots. Probably a new chipset is coming in 2011 then?
12-11-2009, 01:10 AM
inferKNOX

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Originally Posted by Solus Corvus

Nope, it's perfect. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

To be honest I like the 790FX heatsinks better. The blue plastic looking cover looks a bit funky IMO :p: But minor detail.

For the little on-board buttons, I'd prefer real buttons because less likely to act up, and also cheaper - no need for the more expensive capacitive buttons that cost more.

I agree with you both.:up:
here's the same source, but translated:
http://translate.google.com/translat...p%3Fp%3D456037
It clearly says that there will be SATA 6Gb/s & USB 3.0. I hope they delay it slightly and add PCIe 3.0 too!:rolleyes:
12-11-2009, 01:24 AM
Oliverda

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Originally Posted by inferKNOX

I agree with you both.:up:
here's the same source, but translated:
http://translate.google.com/translat...p%3Fp%3D456037
It clearly says that there will be SATA 6Gb/s & USB 3.0. I hope they delay it slightly and add PCIe 3.0 too!:rolleyes:

SB850 won't support the USB 3.0 and no chance for PCI-E 3.0 because the standard finalized just few weeks ago.
12-11-2009, 01:45 AM
generics_user

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Originally Posted by Oliverda

SB850 won't support the USB 3.0 and no chance for PCI-E 3.0 because the standard finalized just few weeks ago.

doesn't stop msi from adding a 3rd party chipset ;)
12-11-2009, 01:50 AM
Behemot

The USB 3.0 and SATA 600 is nice, but without proper PCIe connection it's as good as useless.

If somebody uses RAID 5 with SATA 300, PCIe link can transfer 250 MB/s only, what is edgewise, 8 HDDs has read around this 250 MB/s. But with two SSD, this is huge bottleneck.

With SATA 600 is the bottleneck even worse and I am afraid we need more than just two PCIe links per controller. New HDDs would have higher read and write speeds and if you'll use more of them, you would be :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up (sorry to say, but it's true).

So we need at least two PCIe 2.0 links per every USB/SATA controller. Does the RS890 have something like that? If doesn't, there is nothing to be happy about.
12-11-2009, 02:42 AM
Frank M

Quote:

Originally Posted by Behemot

The USB 3.0 and SATA 600 is nice, but without proper PCIe connection it's as good as useless.

If somebody uses RAID 5 with SATA 300, PCIe link can transfer 250 MB/s only

AMD's SB connection, just like Intel's DMI, is 4 PCIe lanes, making it 1000MBps.
SB8xx will also probably get PCIe 2.0, making it 2000MBps.
12-11-2009, 02:51 AM
Oliverda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Behemot

The USB 3.0 and SATA 600 is nice, but without proper PCIe connection it's as good as useless.

If somebody uses RAID 5 with SATA 300, PCIe link can transfer 250 MB/s only, what is edgewise, 8 HDDs has read around this 250 MB/s. But with two SSD, this is huge bottleneck.

With SATA 600 is the bottleneck even worse and I am afraid we need more than just two PCIe links per controller. New HDDs would have higher read and write speeds and if you'll use more of them, you would be :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up (sorry to say, but it's true).

So we need at least two PCIe 2.0 links per every USB/SATA controller. Does the RS890 have something like that? If doesn't, there is nothing to be happy about.

So, let's make it clear.

The new SB850 southbridge will natively support the SATA 3 (~SATA 600) standard. There is no need PCI-E lines for it.

The USB 3.0 support can be carry out with external controlles (via PCI-E lanes).

http://www.dvhardware.net/news/amd_sb800_features.jpg

http://media.bestofmicro.com/,Y-Q-177506-3.jpg
12-11-2009, 03:05 AM
Nedjo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliverda

So, let's make it clear.

The new SB850 southbridge will natively support the SATA 3 (~SATA 600) standard. There is no need PCI-E lines for it.

The USB 3.0 support can be carry out with external controlles (via PCI-E lanes).

true:
http://www.coolaler.com.tw/image/new...0fx_gd70_7.jpg
12-11-2009, 03:10 AM
FischOderAal

Those slides are fricking old. See "sample/production" for SB800 is "Oct08/Q1 09"... Dunno, SB800 is still a may-part, am I right? What makes it impossible for them to add USB3.0, seeing it was finalized in november 2008?

€dith: OK, nedjo was faster...
12-11-2009, 03:24 AM
Aerou

Please, drop the heatsink covers. They look cheap and worsen the airflow around fins.

And I hope, that FIS sATA port-multiplier works, Intel is only putting this into their slides, pre-release info, but never in the actual product. :shakes:
12-11-2009, 03:41 AM
FlanK3r

I thought,for Bulldozer is a primare socekt AM3+, right? But is compactable with AM3...Maybe 890FX is AM3+? Or will than next socket AM3+ in 2011?

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