Noctua NH-D14 Cooler (best Air Cooler!)

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Originally Posted by dan7777

the megahelems and the noctua 14 are neck and neck but the noctua is alot bigger than the mega so i will take the megahelems any day and with 2 fans not 3 fans. In my opinion for its size the mega still wins. :up:

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For one its 2 vs. 2 fans, and there is 2½-3½C difference.

But you are pretty ignorant on the subjekt megahalems vs D14, judging from the other post from you on the matter.

I hope the Megalemes to not become the new TRUE in that people cannot accept the fact that a new cooler can beat it please....
I am excited about this new cooler as much as I love my Mugen 2,
If it beats it by 5C or more, I am in even with those horrible fans...yuck!

I don't think anyone denied the fact it performed better. But you cannot deny that it's huge also.
For example, I wouldn't fit on my board because of the RAM and because of the NB heatsink.
So yeah, Megahalems has its benefits.

I've always considered that megahalems' one of the most important advantages is the size. You get excelent performance in a relatively small heatsink. Of course D14 is better then megahalem and even true copper due to it's very large dissipation area but omg it's huge. The best air cooler for bench but for a daily use silent configuration I would rather go with megahalem or even a NH-U12P. Unlike D14 you can mount two low rpm fans in push-pull without interfering with a possibly tall memory heatsink. And that way you get lower temps than D14 with one fan in the middle and it's still smaller. :D

Augh why do they always do the comparisons against the old TRUE. I wish they would compare to the rev C. which is supposedly a bit better than a Megahalems.

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Originally Posted by flak-spammer

Augh why do they always do the comparisons against the old TRUE. I wish they would compare to the rev C. which is supposedly a bit better than a Megahalems.

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Because a virgin True is no different than a "unvirgin" True. This is just marketing :banana::banana::banana::banana:.
Thermalright's "brilliant" engineers penetrated True's fins instead of improving it's base and mounting system. What an awesome innovation!!!!11 :eek2:

Uhh...they did improve both the base and mounting system. Have you not seen the rev C? I physically have a rev. A cooler and I know the difference.

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Originally Posted by nullface

For one its 2 vs. 2 fans, and there is 2½-3½C difference.

But you are pretty ignorant on the subjekt megahalems vs D14, judging from the other post from you on the matter.

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lol nar... the mega is still great mate with the right fans the delta fans in push pull keep me i7 way cool enough @ 70c 4.3ghz :up:

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Originally Posted by zalbard

I don't think anyone denied the fact it performed better. But you cannot deny that it's huge also.
For example, I wouldn't fit on my board because of the RAM and because of the NB heatsink.
So yeah, Megahalems has its benefits.

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the mega does being alot smaller and neater looking am i going to sell my mega fot this new cooler i don"t think so no need at all.

Another review in french comparing the D14 to the Megahalems: http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=

http://i37.tinypic.com/14loygy.jpg

Apparently 5C better than the Mega... but a bit of a lame test. Need to see 4.2GHz i7 920 under load...!!!

Also, 6 in stock here: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/99...AM2AM2AM3.html

$87.95 though, wow. Someone buy and test against lapped/pressure modded TRUE, and Mega!!

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Originally Posted by flak-spammer

Uhh...they did improve both the base and mounting system. Have you not seen the rev C? I physically have a rev. A cooler and I know the difference.

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Btw, I have a rev C black TRUE but haven't mounted it yet. Just looking with my metal ruler, it does appear to be quite flat, slightly convex in the middle though. Did you not lap your rev C? What about washer modding, no longer needed?

Yeay, Rev.C has a slightly better base and a pretty good mounting-system. I think it could be a few degrees better than an Rev.A (non-lapped), because of the flatter base.

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Originally Posted by halfwaythere

Every chart where something like the H50 or something else is better than a Megahalems at pretty low rpm is crap. I suggest you boys keep your pants on and wait for some serious testing before throwing your hard earned pennies that easy. I'm not saying its not good but 4 degrees better than the best cooler on the market... Pigs started flying all of a sudden.

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So you think my results are crap? :shakes:

I can tell you that I do my tests rather carefully and my reviews ARE serious. I don't test with high Vcore, that's right....I've had to make some compromises, because I want to test mid-range cooler to.

Moreover the H50 is only better than the megahalems when you use the required airflow (einblasend = intake fan on the backside where the H50 is placed and two 140mm in the top to dissipate heat). If you use the same fan-setup as the megahalems, it wont be better ;). But otherwise the H50 has some vantages. However, I can't tell you how it scales with higher voltages.....

Your test may be serious Tommy, but they aren't relevant, especially since this is an enthusiast community. All of these products are quite expensive and in general people buying them want to know how far will they be able to push their cpu beyond the stock settings. If we were to talk about things like Freezer 7 or Katana 3 then by all means your serious testing might even be appropriate or even relevant.

But if you are a little bit like me and you are willing to spend over 50 $/euros/whatever on a heatsink you would want it to be tested throughly before you go out and buy it.

If you guys are buying this Noctua and expect it to be way better than a TRUE or a Megahalems at around 1500-2000 rpm you are going to be disappointed. Another bad news is you might end up unable to use memory kits with tall heatsinks. Its not all good news when you're trying to squeeze this baby inside a case.

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Originally Posted by halfwaythere

Your test may be serious Tommy, but they aren't relevant, especially since this is an enthusiast community. All of these products are quite expensive and in general people buying them want to know how far will they be able to push their cpu beyond the stock settings. If we were to talk about things like Freezer 7 or Katana 3 then by all means your serious testing might even be appropriate or even relevant.

But if you are a little bit like me and you are willing to spend over 50 $/euros/whatever on a heatsink you would want it to be tested throughly before you go out and buy it.

If you guys are buying this Noctua and expect it to be way better than a TRUE or a Megahalems at around 1500-2000 rpm you are going to be disappointed. Another bad news is you might end up unable to use memory kits with tall heatsinks. Its not all good news when you're trying to squeeze this baby inside a case.

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yes true i think my megahelems will beat this with 4000rpm delta fans :rofl:

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If you guys are buying this Noctua and expect it to be way better than a TRUE or a Megahalems at around 1500-2000 rpm you are going to be disappointed.

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So you have tried this right?

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yes true i think my megahelems will beat this with 4000rpm delta fans

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I was thinking the same thing...even my Ninja can beat it with those. LOL

Tommy, I sent you a PM a few days ago about your pictures, if you do not want to share any tips on how to take them that is fine but how about a courtesy reply at least? ;)

http://lab501.ro/forum/showpost.php?p=14317&postcount=3

I wouldn't call this decisive. You have to remember the Noctua has a much bigger dissipation area compared to any other cooler out there.

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Originally Posted by halfwaythere

http://lab501.ro/forum/showpost.php?p=14317&postcount=3

I wouldn't call this decisive. You have to remember the Noctua has a much bigger dissipation area compared to any other cooler out there.

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Come on mate, the results are there. You can't deny that the Noctua beats the Megahalems. Regardless of size and dissipation area, the Noctua still beats the Megahalems.:up:

If that's the difference it is disappointing, to trade convenience of mounting and relatively small size for extra weight and blocking of memory slots for mere ~1-2c better temps .
Id want at least a solid no error margin of 5c or more :p:

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Originally Posted by -=DVS=-

If that's the difference it is disappointing, to trade convenience of mounting and relatively small size for extra weight and blocking of memory slots for mere ~1-2c better temps .
Id want at least a solid no error margin of 5c or more :p:

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i posted a review where a i7@OC was about 5c cooler than with the megahalems.

http://www.caseandcooling.fr/images/...temp%204.3.png
http://www.caseandcooling.fr/refroid...nh-d14?start=3

i order the cooler next week, its still not available in germany.

It is official Megahalems is the new TRUE.
No matter what happens with this new cooler people is going to find ways to minimize the results by claiming price, noise, size or whatever.
Some times is like some guys do not want newer things to be better...I, as much as I like my Mugen 2, do not mind if something new comes in a beats it with a good margin. :up:

Yes i saw it , but one review is hardly a solid result if one gets 5c better and another one gets only ~1c better , which one is right ? it all could be within user error of bad mount in that first review. When megahalem was released we had bunch of reviews showing it better and or worse then TRUE , and in the end they perform about the same.
I know i know HeatSinks get better little by little 1c per decade :p:

Lets get one thing straight: I never said Noctua isn't better but its not very fair to compare heatsinks from different categories. Its like arguing that a 4x120 rad is better than a 2x120 one. The Noctua has almost double the dissipation area compared to something like TRUE.

In the end if you want the best air cooling solution regardless of price and size the Noctua is the one to buy. But be aware that Prolimatech and Thermalright have got something similar coming, Jericho and Arrow.

And since when did we get so touchy about heatsink sizes?
We may as well stay with the stock one then....really, when comparing such large heatsinks compared to most "j6p" ones, I cant really believe we are arguing that this ones is much bigger than the other. Not fair really to put it down just because it is bigger.

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Originally Posted by halfwaythere

Lets get one thing straight: I never said Noctua isn't better but its not very fair to compare heatsinks from different categories. Its like arguing that a 4x120 rad is better than a 2x120 one. The Noctua has almost double the dissipation area compared to something like TRUE.

In the end if you want the best air cooling solution regardless of price and size the Noctua is the one to buy. But be aware that Prolimatech and Thermalright have got something similar coming, Jericho and Arrow.

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Bwhahaha...if Thermalright carries the IFX-14 legacy on, we have nothing to worry about. Prolima's product however I really want to see :)

Regarding fin disipation area, Z600 has 1KG and huge dissipation area, but it's only the best when it comes to fanless performance, so Noctua's NH-D14 engineers really kick some TR and Prolima but :)