AMD Phenom II X4 965 C3 is out!

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11-05-2009, 01:30 AM
Bullet92

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Originally Posted by M.Beier

Buller, you hope I get it, right? The 7ghz <3 hehe sorry Marko, I cant resist temptation ;-P

Marc I hate you :mad: :D

@SF3D, is there same memory limitation with C3?
11-05-2009, 03:41 AM
SF3D

Yes, the limit of memory clock frequency is the same. It is the architechture, not stepping. Next gen will be fixed.

This chip of mine is quite old, like some user pointed out. I believe newer C3's are a lot better on air already. LN2 tests will be fun to do as well.
11-05-2009, 04:20 AM
matose

From my tests the memory goes higher on the new C3 (about 70MHz higher):

http://lab501.ro/forum/attachment.ph...6&d=1255901791

I got also over 6.5GHz validation on LN2:

http://lab501.ro/forum/attachment.ph...8&d=1256416779

What FPO was your SF3D? Mine was 0933XXXX
11-05-2009, 04:31 AM
El Gappo

yeah they definitely manage higher ram speeds and 3000+ nb clock which wasn't easy on the c2's (air)

max air validation for me on air in windows 7 http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=809139
11-05-2009, 05:44 AM
k|ngp|n

Thanx for sharing. You said the best clocking chips are in better(macci's?)hands? Lhe coming? How about some video footage of those runs with some Norther background music? :D
11-05-2009, 07:14 AM
SF3D

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Originally Posted by matose

From my tests the memory goes higher on the new C3 (about 70MHz higher):

I got also over 6.5GHz validation on LN2:

What FPO was your SF3D? Mine was 0933XXXX

FPO is in the fist page. With memory limit we mean, that there is physical limit on RAM speed. You can not exceed 952MHz. (or near that MHz level)

My memory is clocking all the same with retail 955 and 965 C3

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Originally Posted by El Gappo

yeah they definitely manage higher ram speeds and 3000+ nb clock which wasn't easy on the c2's (air)

max air validation for me on air in windows 7

Same answer. I mean physical memory speed limit.

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Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

Thanx for sharing. You said the best clocking chips are in better(macci's?)hands? Lhe coming? How about some video footage of those runs with some Norther background music? :D

I hope they will be in Macci's hands tomorrow. Lhe might be doable soon as well.

Video should have been out already. Don't know where it is now..

More is coming when we can produce some good scores!
11-05-2009, 08:02 AM
demonkevy666

Quote:

Originally Posted by SF3D

Yes, the limit of memory clock frequency is the same. It is the architechture, not stepping. Next gen will be fixed.

This chip of mine is quite old, like some user pointed out. I believe newer C3's are a lot better on air already. LN2 tests will be fun to do as well.

that's a really a bigger disappointment then.
so tight timings will bigger wins then.
11-05-2009, 08:06 AM
matose

Sorry, I didn't see... it's the same batch as mine, that's why the results are similar.
Yes, physical limit but this limit is higher with rev. C3 than with C2. If we're talking about physical limits, we can say that Core i7 (Bloomfield) has a memory frequency cap around 2200-2250MHz with the CPU on air (because of the uncore) :). Everywhere there are limits but in this case it matters that AMD improved the limit (C3>C2)...
11-05-2009, 08:19 AM
FlanK3r

ANd its mean too better physial limit with LHe :-D? I hope next big time superpi 1M with AMD under 10s .

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Gappo

yeah they definitely manage higher ram speeds and 3000+ nb clock which wasn't easy on the c2's (air)

max air validation for me on air in windows 7 http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=809139

whau, very nice :up:! Il try 4600
11-05-2009, 08:40 AM
Marco André

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Originally Posted by matose

Sorry, I didn't see... it's the same batch as mine, that's why the results are similar.

Are we all playing with same batch chips? :up:
11-05-2009, 10:46 AM
SF3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by matose

Yes, physical limit but this limit is higher with rev. C3 than with C2. If we're talking about physical limits, we can say that Core i7 (Bloomfield) has a memory frequency cap around 2200-2250MHz with the CPU on air (because of the uncore) :). Everywhere there are limits but in this case it matters that AMD improved the limit (C3>C2)...

No no no.. :D

Still talking about different thing. Memory speed can not go over certain limit, no matter what you do. You have to test it yourself, if you dont believe me ;)

Next generation of CPU's should have higher memory speeds available. Now we just have to play with tight timings.

If your memory clocks better under this 952MHz limitation, that is improvement, but not the thing we are waiting to be fixed :up:
11-05-2009, 10:56 AM
@rne

So 952MHz is a fixed mem controller limit for all phenoms out there?
Now i know why i wasnt able to push higher:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=595229
:rolleyes:

Too sad that C3 Stepping doesnt include an improvement concerning higher frequency than 952...
11-05-2009, 10:57 AM
massman

It's 960MHz afaik.

There are no registry settings beyond 960MHz available for higher frequency.

//edit: it's 960MHz - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=549
11-05-2009, 11:38 AM
FlanK3r

massman: its OT, but can u add at HWBOT benchmark Cinebench R10 and MaxxPi (in future)? Cinebench is,t hink, more popular than PCmark 2004 :-)
11-05-2009, 01:21 PM
SF3D

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Originally Posted by massman

It's 960MHz afaik.

There are no registry settings beyond 960MHz available for higher frequency.

//edit: it's 960MHz - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=549

Yes. You need to be lucky and do a lot of work to get 960MHz working :D
11-05-2009, 04:54 PM
overcrash

Dude I can't see any of the screenshots in your first post :(
11-05-2009, 05:27 PM
bondhahnmrt85

Very promising C3 stepping... :up:
Can't wait to meet that :D
11-05-2009, 06:50 PM
tiborrr

Where do you get retails C3 chips? Can some good european soul point me to the store that has them? :shrug:
11-05-2009, 09:40 PM
SF3D

Finally the video is out!

Here is what we overclockers did on 2009 with AMD : http://www.youtube.com/user/AMDUnprocessed

Nice year full of activity! Thank you AMD!
11-05-2009, 10:06 PM
Daveburt714

Really cool video (excellent HD quality too). :up:
Now I know what all my heros look like. ;) You guys have all the fun....

Alas, I was hoping for some C3 clocking action, I know, MUST BE PATIENT...

Can't wait to get my hands on one of these chips so I can see what my Ugly/Ghetto water cooling can do. :yepp:

Thanks for the link!
11-05-2009, 10:36 PM
Don_Dan

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Originally Posted by tiborrr

Where do you get retails C3 chips? Can some good european soul point me to the store that has them? :shrug:

The German shop Alternate has them. :)
11-06-2009, 12:09 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by SF3D

Finally the video is out!

Here is what we overclockers did on 2009 with AMD : http://www.youtube.com/user/AMDUnprocessed

Nice year full of activity! Thank you AMD!

Of all the shots ... why the one with the orange vest? :rofl:
11-06-2009, 01:14 AM
SF3D

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Originally Posted by massman

Of all the shots ... why the one with the orange vest? :rofl:

:rofl: My fake adidas jacket from 1992 was well presented :up:

You were 3 years old when I used it :D
11-06-2009, 02:53 AM
matose

Nice movie man ;)! A whole year of AMD fun this was ... hope 2010 will be more fun :D
11-06-2009, 02:57 AM
Viss

Nice video :up:

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