RoundUP: 23 SuperCoolers tested (extreme TDP, lapping, moding, 250CFM+)

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10-06-2009, 04:18 AM
zalbard

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Originally Posted by mascotzel

yes,but those are extreme conditions,benching only
he states in the review that TRUE copper is benchmark only ,because of it's weight it should only be used on a horizontally mounted mainboard (and it's price too makes it undesirable for normal use)

also,normal TRUE beats Megahalems only in the last test,extreme CFM, and the TRUE was lapped and modded mounting,while the Megahalems was used stock and had the best mounting kit from his opinion

we'll work with him and other guys and see if we can do an acceptable translation

My point was that Megahalems beats True, nothing more, nothing less.
Which people used to not agree with.
And this review once again proved them wrong.
Sorry for confusion.
10-06-2009, 05:03 AM
mrkram

awesome collaboration! this definitely helped me pick my cooler for my i5 :)
10-06-2009, 06:19 AM
matose

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Originally Posted by jmke

and should not be a reason to chose one over the other, especially if price is involved.

Megahalems has better mounting, better base and performs much better than TRUE in low/medium RPM ;)!
10-06-2009, 06:30 AM
prava

One quick question: have they (the reviewers) done remounts for all heatsinks? IMO its something worth the effort...
10-06-2009, 08:30 AM
~CS~

Am myself surprised the Mega came out on top , would think the True would edge out once it was lapped and properly mounted , in fact i was pretty much convinced , still taking this with a grain of salt .
10-06-2009, 08:34 AM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~CS~

Am myself surprised the Mega came out on top , would think the True would edge out once it was lapped and properly mounted , in fact i was pretty much convinced , still taking this with a grain of salt .

Did you at least read the name of the thread? It was lapped AND modded...
10-06-2009, 08:53 AM
jcool

Awesome work there. BUT: "Supercoolers" and "air" don't belong into the same sentence :p:
Here I was, hoping to find an extensive evap roundup :D :ROTF:
10-06-2009, 09:02 AM
Dragy2k

i skipped to the last page ....spoiler alert !!! ...he died !!
10-06-2009, 09:07 AM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

Here I was, hoping to find an extensive evap roundup :D :ROTF:

Now that'd be truly amazing!
Anyone willing to do it? :D
10-06-2009, 09:49 AM
Monstru

Send me the 'vaps and I will do it =))

Quote:

sorry but "beating" means a NONE negligible difference, anything below <5°C is IMHO a wash; and should not be a reason to chose one over the other, especially if price is involved.

At this level, 2 degrees is all that separates the number one heatsink from the rest of the pack. Of course, it is not a reason to chose one over another, but it helps to know the exact differences between the heatsinks.
10-06-2009, 09:51 AM
zalbard

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Originally Posted by Monstru

Send me the 'vaps and I will do it =))

If someone sends me vaps I'll do it as well. :rofl:
10-06-2009, 10:11 AM
zalbard

If 3C difference isn't significant for you then perhaps you're on the wrong forum...
And testing on P4 isn't very relevant IMO... Or at least i7 would be much better.
After a quick search I found this one:

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...a/q6600_34.jpg

And it goes perfectly well with the review in the OP.
10-06-2009, 10:39 AM
jcool

"Fail" :ROTF:
10-06-2009, 11:45 AM
Monstru

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got a dual core Prescott here which slightly overclocked (not overvolted yet) produces more heat than Core i7

Bro, we now how hot the presshots were, and they are ok for testing heatsinks, but this is an overstatement at least. Maybe compared to an undervolted D0 they are hotter, but I'll show you some nice sweet miserable clocker i965 ES I have here.....oh boy...No P4 ever got this hot :)
10-06-2009, 11:58 AM
~CS~

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalbard

Did you at least read the name of the thread? It was lapped AND modded...

Quote:

would think the True would edge out once it was lapped and properly mounted

No you my Russian friend did not read my post to well ,"would think " not "think " .

Ponial ?
10-06-2009, 12:29 PM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~CS~

No you my Russian friend did not read my post to well ,"would think " not "think " .

Ponial ?

Excuses, excuses. :p:
10-06-2009, 01:03 PM
Monstru

JMKE - I have benched P4's at 5GHz on air (Scythe Ninja). However, a Core i7 965 @ 4,3 on air is killing a True with serious fan on it. C'mon....
10-06-2009, 01:19 PM
IvanAndreevich

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstru

JMKE - I have benched P4's at 5GHz on air (Scythe Ninja). However, a Core i7 965 @ 4,3 on air is killing a True with serious fan on it. C'mon....

You had a PRESCOTT at 5 GHz on air? :shocked: Maybe the 65 nm variety?
10-06-2009, 01:52 PM
Monstru

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Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich

You had a PRESCOTT at 5 GHz on air? :shocked: Maybe the 65 nm variety?

I said P4, not Prescott :).

JMKE - I am not questioning your methodology. I am not going to comment on what you said above, because I totally disagree, just like I disagree with tests done with synthetic load generators. There are a thousand way of testing heatsinks, and I could not say "that is bad" and "that is good". Whatever works for your readers, that is something you know better. Just don't tell me a P4 is hotter then an i7 :)
10-06-2009, 02:32 PM
Sadasius

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Originally Posted by gumballguy

How well did the cat perform as a cooler? I couldn't see it in the graphs.

Ummm not good! :shakes: Tried the cat cooler and he has roasted chestnuts and is looking at me like I am retarded. I repeat...The cat cooler does NOT work good! :up:
10-06-2009, 02:48 PM
strange|ife

51 pages fed through babelfish
10-06-2009, 03:07 PM
jcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmke

got a dual core Prescott here which slightly overclocked (not overvolted yet) produces more heat than Core i7 ;)

Clearly you haven't met my w3520. It does 4Ghz Linpack stable at 1,13V or 4,2 at 1,216V, but oh dear, does it get hot (and draw power..). At 1,4V it collapses my SS when priming (which is tuned for 280W load). Imagine giving it 1,5V :shocked: :rofl:

Seriously though, OCed low vid i7's are the most evil chips to date when it comes to power draw. Not even the B3 Kents or the Presshots can top them.
10-07-2009, 12:39 AM
Monstru

Well, who the heck is doing stock clocks heatsink testing anyway? :)
10-07-2009, 12:39 AM
benko

Didnt know that Zalman made such a good cooler, it is even better than TRUE :D
in low/mid speed fans..
10-07-2009, 01:31 AM
Monstru

That is just one aspect of a heatsink test :)

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