Nvidia will answer im sure of that. This is a great card indeed, but i think all the hype for 2 months kind of made it bigger than it really is.Quote:
Originally Posted by HuffPCair
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Nvidia will answer im sure of that. This is a great card indeed, but i think all the hype for 2 months kind of made it bigger than it really is.Quote:
Originally Posted by HuffPCair
I disagree these cards seem like they are going to be great cards, but I do like seeing the competition from both of the companies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sh1tyMcGee
aaaand my 8800gt and newer 4850m are pretty much crap
People expect wayyyyyy too much. I mean really.. it's 2x the speed of the last gen ( 4870 ), and even surpasses the 4870x2/gtx295 in a few benchmarks.
Some people just wont be happy unless it's 5x performance or some ridiculously unrealistic #.
:shrug:
just waiting for the Egg to let me buy this.......... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-346-_-Product
I don't know what some of you were expecting, but we are definately living the Golden Age of GPU's once again. There were those times when increase of 50% over previous generation would've been a miracle, and now, we're seeing for the second time in a row way over 50% increases. And the card is blazingly fast when it needs to be - at high AA. All this with revolutionary low idle power consumption at high end. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sh1tyMcGee
why not awaiting Intel's response in form of Larrabee, so you could play Project Offset? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sh1tyMcGee
Look like 5870 crossfire does not scale that good. I'll wait for 5870X2 performance before I swipe my credit card.
How do you think my 3 month old 4890 feels? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by AndrewZorn
Nice!
Ati's x2 series are going to be Monsters....
As expected. GTX 295-like performance from a single card. I'm not expecting much from GT300. Maybe sightly faster, but won't match it in price for sure.
GTX 295 is faster than 5870 in a substantial number of games, but overall 5870 seems to pull ahead.
Not by a wide margin, though. Considering that 295's can be found around $450 (even here in Turkey, don't know about the US) and 5870's will cost around $400, it'll take only a price cut of around $80 for NVidia to still remain very competitive in that range.
Yeah, obviously for NVidia it's not easy to swallow such a price cut, but with all the rumors that the 5870 would totally annihilate any competition and make ATI the choice for most gamers until GT300's came out; I think it's not too bad news for NVidia.
I will totally go for 5870, not 295, but I don't think 5870, while an amazing card; will be enough to be heartily recommended to anyone with around $400 to spend, of course if NVidia indeed cuts the price of 295's.
Why they can still play everything out there for the most part right now. My 8800GTS can I still don't see a point in upgrading since not exactly a whole lot of DX11 titles out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewZorn
Says the guy who works for AMD, you know i never listen to anyone preach their own product. So that being said, if you go back you can see i clearly said its a great card. Not like current Gen has issues playing any games right now anyway. You dont have to be hurt because i said i would wait for your competitor to see what they have to offer, everyone is counting nvidia out because they will be a month late to the party, my current card (4870 512mb) plays all my games fine, nothing coming out will be changing that anytime soon. So i dont mind waiting another 2 months to see what competition has to offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
More than likely a driver issue. You cant expect magic from the initial driver release that supports the cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by damtachoa
for $400 it doesn't look that impressive
I'm still running my 8800GTX on water. Probably the longest lasting component I've had in my computer.
Summary (to complement my post above)
Vantage: 295 is better than 5870 in all resolutions.
Clear Sky: 295 is faster without AA; with AA they are equal.
Crysis: 295 is faster without AA; with AA they are ~equal.
Far Cry 2: 295 is faster with, and without AA.
Left 4 Dead: 295 is faster without AA; with AA they are ~equal.
World in Conflict: 295 is faster with and without AA.
HAWX: 295 is faster without AA, with AA 5870 is faster. However, there seems to be some kind of problem with NVidia with AA in this game.
Resident Evil 5: 295 is faster without AA, with AA 5870 is faster at 1920 and above.
GTA4: They're about equal but 295 crashes at 2560 res.
So I have to take back what I said or what? 295 seems to be a faster card than 5870 (but consumes more power). I don't think NVidia has to drop its price below 5870. Sure, one is SLI and the other is not, but it's marketed and priced as a single card.
you've missed this blue spot at the end of my post: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sh1tyMcGee
chill out I was just poking you a bit 'cos of Project offset in another thread and the fact that some guy jumped in trying to defend you although I didn't attacked at first place...
so, no worries all is fine
:up:
and no, I haven't preached 5870 in this thread ;)
it's up to you to see that card rocks... or you can choose not to :shrug:
Why so negative? Since he or she wants to be a smart consumer? Oh but I'm not surprised why. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Overall, 5870 is slower than a GTX 295 and is priced $50 lower. I don't think it really rocks that much, although it's definitely a good card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
It beats 4870X2 and 295GTX while consuming like 100W less in charge and 50W in idle and can run 3 screens natively.Quote:
Originally Posted by natty
Sure not really impressive :shocked:
those comments make me believe that I am looking at a different set of results..??
How can 5870 be faster than GTX295 where in %50 of the occassions they are equal, and in most of the remaining cases 295 is faster?
Depending on people's preferences, everyone has a different conclusion. I would say its a good card around GTX 295's level but once you start pumping 8x AA, it's definitely better.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
I would love to pick these up but I would wait first to see how Nvidia responds.
as far as I can see e-tailers didn't broke NDA, like THG.it (they're five hour in the breach)Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
But I can tell you that price difference isn't like you're saying my friend:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ce%20GTX%20295