Hardware Labs' Black Ice SR1 Radiators now available

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07-24-2009, 05:13 PM
JOCKTHEGLIDE

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Originally Posted by Nanometer

what would be considered worth it? lol Some people value spending another 50 dollars for a 2 degree decrease in temperature. Not me..

damn that hurst much when you think about it does sound ricidulous...
07-24-2009, 05:15 PM
Sadasius

These rads are great for the low rpm fan people. I will stick with the GTX as it performs awesome. Nice to see some extra choices though. Would love to see some numbers on this as I pretty much put marketing claims in the garbage until I see proof.
07-24-2009, 05:28 PM
silverphoenix

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Originally Posted by Sadasius

These rads are great for the low rpm fan people. I will stick with the GTX as it performs awesome. Nice to see some extra choices though. Would love to see some numbers on this as I pretty much put marketing claims in the garbage until I see proof.

I can see why you would prefer the GTX hehe considering that monster fan you have in ur sig!!! HOLY COW
07-24-2009, 06:18 PM
JOCKTHEGLIDE

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Originally Posted by silverphoenix

I can see why you would prefer the GTX hehe considering that monster fan you have in ur sig!!! HOLY COW

yeah wow I just clicked on that link and wow just wow speechless thats an out all fan going crazy...
07-24-2009, 07:54 PM
Waterlogged

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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis

Steath referred to the ability to install a rad in a discreet location not noise.

DB, sorry but, your wrong on this. Here is a direct copypaste of HW Labs hype from their own site for the GTS120. I've highlighted the points of interest.

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The Black Ice® GT Stealth 120 is the first true next generation PC radiator designed for uncompromising performance and stealth silent operation. The GTS120 boasts of a radically redesigned Black Ice® core technology that maximizes heat transfer efficiency and maintains effectively the same compact profile of the Black Ice® Pro.

Features

* Two-pass U-flow tank configuration.
* Custom MaxFin™ 25 micron Copper Splitter Fin Configuration utilizing 45% thinner fin material yielding up to 50% less pressure drop even with twice the fin density.
* Unique fin configuration eliminates intra-louver accumulation of dust particles for trouble free operation.
* Unprecedented Ultra-high 30 FPI (Fins Per Inch) fin density providing dramatically increased heat transfer surface area.
* Custom low-profile 19.0 x 1.2mm MaxFlow™ tubes with 15% more waterside surface area and 60% frontal area reduction for superior low air-resistance aerodynamics and lower internal flow requirements.
* Yields up to 20% more heat exchange capacity than the Black Ice® Pro in both Stealth or Performance modes.
* Achieves Black Ice® Xtreme level performance in stealth mode (low-noise/low-airflow conditions).
* M4 Threaded Screw Holes for easier mounting and greater adaptability.
* Now standard G 1/4" female threaded fittings.
* Full high-temper brass structural construction for weight reduction and superior corrosion resistance.
* High performance compact radiator compatible as an upgrade to the Black Ice® Pro and most 120mm form factor radiators.
* Uses 100% Non-corrosive water-solluble fluxing process.
* Fully RoHS compliant.
* Full electrostatic polyurethane painting finish for uniform coating with high temperature curing for increased finish durability.
* Renowned Black Ice® quality.
* Patent Pending Design.

Dimensions

Not once in their hype do they mention anything about "stealth" pertaining to "discreet installation".

Back on topic, again

I will say I am looking forward to getting some performance numbers on these. Dimensions look to be roughly the same height and width as the other BI rads but thickness looks to be roughly in the area of 40mm*.

Edit: *Noticed 15mm shroud was only on one side of rad which would make it thinner. :hitself:
07-25-2009, 04:30 AM
voigts

They look nice, but that pricing is too high for my wallet.
07-25-2009, 01:14 PM
Petra

Interesting, yet another ridiculously priced radiator option. I wonder what the $78 price difference between the SR1 360 and an MCR-320QP could get you in terms of better components these days... :rolleyes:
07-25-2009, 01:18 PM
iandh

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Originally Posted by Petra

Interesting, yet another ridiculously priced radiator option. I wonder what the $78 price difference between the SR1 360 and an MCR-320QP could get you in terms of better components these days... :rolleyes:

this^
07-25-2009, 01:19 PM
faster3200

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Originally Posted by Petra

Interesting, yet another ridiculously priced radiator option. I wonder what the $78 price difference between the SR1 360 and an MCR-320QP could get you in terms of better components these days... :rolleyes:

Which has always been my point (and MANY others). Why buy one thick rad when you can have two thin ones?
07-25-2009, 01:36 PM
iandh

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Originally Posted by faster3200

Which has always been my point (and MANY others). Why buy one thick rad when you can have two thin ones?

Well, I'm a silence freak, which is why I'm such a big fan of the XSPC RX series... they offer low FPI and a semi-boutique status, but managed to keep the price reasonable. As far as this, I can't imagine somone forking out the cash for the SR1's vs. the XSPC RX.
07-25-2009, 01:44 PM
Movieman

^^^I'm going to stop and give this guy a plug..
made me a beautiful grille for my HWLabs GTX560..
I'm still looking for a case to fit it in..:rofl:
07-25-2009, 01:45 PM
faster3200

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Originally Posted by iandh

Well, I'm a silence freak, which is why I'm such a big fan of the XSPC RX series... they offer low FPI and a semi-boutique status, but managed to keep the price reasonable. As far as this, I can't imagine somone forking out the cash for the SR1's vs. the XSPC RX.

You are right. I wasn't being entirely fair, which I realized after I posted and just hoped no one would call me on it :p:. I am currently using an older BI rad, so I am mildly hypocritical (purchased used though).

I feel a bit sad with this rad. HWLabs makes amazing high RPM rads that I actually enjoy and now they are in a totally over crowded market. We already have Thermochill, XSPC, and Feser, do we really need more?
07-25-2009, 02:45 PM
eth0s

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Originally Posted by faster3200

You are right. I wasn't being entirely fair, which I realized after I posted and just hoped no one would call me on it :p:. I am currently using an older BI rad, so I am mildly hypocritical (purchased used though).

I feel a bit sad with this rad. HWLabs makes amazing high RPM rads that I actually enjoy and now they are in a totally over crowded market. We already have Thermochill, XSPC, and Feser, do we really need more?

This is true, I hope HW Labs keeps making the GTX rads for high speed fans, along side these new SR1's. Even though I don't ever use high speed fans because of the noise, I know a lot of you guys like them. But if HW Labs quits the high-speed fan segment of the market, then we all lose the right to choose. Regardless of the fate of the GTX line however, these new SR1's are giving me a perfect excuse for a new build, 'cuz man you see, I just love my little GTS rad that I got, it's freakin' awesome, and it's only 25mm thick. (note: when I saw "awesome" I mean it appeals to me, and I know the performance is not even on par with an MCR320, but so what, I still love it anyway, and all the p!ss you can pour on it won't change my mind.) So, I just gotta get my hands on one of those 480 SR1's. I just have to get a purchase order approval from my boss, err, I mean wife.
07-25-2009, 02:55 PM
iandh

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Originally Posted by faster3200

You are right. I wasn't being entirely fair, which I realized after I posted and just hoped no one would call me on it :p:. I am currently using an older BI rad, so I am mildly hypocritical (purchased used though).

I feel a bit sad with this rad. HWLabs makes amazing high RPM rads that I actually enjoy and now they are in a totally over crowded market. We already have Thermochill, XSPC, and Feser, do we really need more?

IMO Hwlabs makes the best quality rads as far as fit and finish (TC is right up there as well), but it's just hard for me to justify an extra $40 for a 360 rad just because it has a fancy paint finish. :(
07-25-2009, 11:16 PM
skinnee

Here are a couple of shots I took this evening...

http://skinneelabs.com/Radiators/HWL...R1_profile.jpg

http://skinneelabs.com/Radiators/HWL..._end-tanks.jpg

http://skinneelabs.com/Radiators/HWL...roud-tanks.jpg

Thought I would try a different angle...

http://skinneelabs.com/Radiators/HWL...oud-length.jpg

Looks ok, didn't turn out how I wanted though.

Will get testing as soon as the lab is set back up. Looking forward to testing this rad though, always nice to see something different.
07-26-2009, 12:17 AM
iandh

Looks to be top notch quality as expected...
07-26-2009, 12:29 AM
NaeKuh

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Originally Posted by iandh

Looks to be top notch quality as expected...

im kinda disappointed @ the fact its priced @ par with full copper radiators.

It should be priced @ par with there GTX.
07-26-2009, 04:45 AM
Sadasius

I like how they gave some space as a shroud. Also talk about a nice finish. The flat black looks great. Also it is obviously a side by side pass and not a over and under pass like the GTX so I am wondering on performance here.
07-26-2009, 06:16 AM
JOCKTHEGLIDE

Quote:

Originally Posted by iandh

IMO Hwlabs makes the best quality rads as far as fit and finish (TC is right up there as well), but it's just hard for me to justify an extra $40 for a 360 rad just because it has a fancy paint finish. :(

KOOLANCE makes some radiators you can get a quad for 80 bucks...whoo hoooo
07-26-2009, 10:57 AM
evian_26

So whats the dimensions? if it is within 40mm its a winner
07-26-2009, 11:14 AM
skinnee

end tank to end tank: 397mm
thickness: 55mm
side panel to side panel: 132mm
07-26-2009, 11:41 AM
Waterlogged

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Originally Posted by skinnee

end tank to end tank: 397mm
thickness: 55mm
side panel to side panel: 132mm

Dang, I was right the first time. :ROTF:
07-26-2009, 11:53 AM
skinnee

core size (LxWxH): 360mm x 131mm x 34mm

atleast according to my measurements.
07-26-2009, 12:13 PM
iandh

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Originally Posted by Movieman

^^^I'm going to stop and give this guy a plug..
made me a beautiful grille for my HWLabs GTX560..
I'm still looking for a case to fit it in..:rofl:

Yeah, um good luck with that... :ROTF:

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Originally Posted by skinnee

end tank to end tank: 397mm
thickness: 55mm
side panel to side panel: 132mm

Is that side panel to side panel outside dimension?
07-26-2009, 12:16 PM
skinnee

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Originally Posted by iandh

Is that side panel to side panel outside dimension?

yes. :yepp:

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